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Rebel GalaxyJust to let you know, devs. I buy "Rebel Galaxy Outlaws" here on GOG, after the 12 months exclusive period on the epic game store expires.(27 posts)(27 posts)
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Posted December 14, 2018
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And I won't pay full prive at that time, because the game is by then a year old. Otherwise I would have bought your game on release, but I think I wait for the DRM free version on a sale here now.

I am an old gamer, having a backlog of over 900 games, consoles games included, collected within my lifetime of gaming. I do not need to buy any new game at launch.

I will sit this one out. I really hope for you, that your plan, getting more money from the shops will work out, but I fear, it will backfire, because taking games hostage on a platform as leverage is not a good idea, and as customer unfriendly as it can get.

As is the epic game store is for us customers. No refunds, no review system planned. And demanding too much personal data from us, before we are able to buy anything from them. Maybe you should check this out, before binding your success to the store.

Regardless of your intentions, you wiill be seen as "the bad guys", too. For making the exclusive deal for a whole year. Think about it. The most sales of any game are in the first two weeks after the release day. It's common game developer knowledge.So 3 months exclusivity would have been more fair to you, and the customers.

The epic store screwed you, too. Binding you for one year, denying you to sell your product to a wider range of customers. You will actually loose money that way, because after that year, you can only get around half the price for your now old game on the other stores.

Maybe I am wrong, but I think that is the way it will go down.
Post edited December 14, 2018 by mkess
Posted December 14, 2018
Not new, since so many years Steam is exclusive, with Focus Interactive and so many others 'bad guys'.
I'm just surprised you write so much here, like it was new for a pc game, like you're in fact a new pc player.
However, I'm like you.
Post edited December 14, 2018 by ERISS
Posted December 18, 2018
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mkess: And I won't pay full prive at that time, because the game is by then a year old. Otherwise I would have bought your game on release, but I think I wait for the DRM free version on a sale here now.

I am an old gamer, having a backlog of over 900 games, consoles games included, collected within my lifetime of gaming. I do not need to buy any new game at launch.

I will sit this one out. I really hope for you, that your plan, getting more money from the shops will work out, but I fear, it will backfire, because taking games hostage on a platform as leverage is not a good idea, and as customer unfriendly as it can get.

As is the epic game store is for us customers. No refunds, no review system planned. And demanding too much personal data from us, before we are able to buy anything from them. Maybe you should check this out, before binding your success to the store.

Regardless of your intentions, you wiill be seen as "the bad guys", too. For making the exclusive deal for a whole year. Think about it. The most sales of any game are in the first two weeks after the release day. It's common game developer knowledge.So 3 months exclusivity would have been more fair to you, and the customers.

The epic store screwed you, too. Binding you for one year, denying you to sell your product to a wider range of customers. You will actually loose money that way, because after that year, you can only get around half the price for your now old game on the other stores.

Maybe I am wrong, but I think that is the way it will go down.
1- The Rebel Galaxy Outlaw will be DRM free on Epic games

2- There is a refund policy, and it has changed since launch. Now you get 14 days to request a refund and it will be granted.
https://epicgames.helpshift.com/a/epic-games-store-and-launcher/?s=epic-games-store&f=what-is-the-refund-policy-for-the-epic-games-store&p=all

Click Contact Us to submit your refund request. A full refund will be offered for any requests made within 14 days of purchase. Please note the amount of time for the refund to process is dependent on your banking institution.
and demanding too much personal data? You can literally sign up using Google+ connection if you like which doesn't give them anything other than your email address, and then you can use various other payment system that you like, for example Amazon payments or Paypal and many many others. You can literally give them absolutely no personal information at all.
Posted December 24, 2018
Regardless of the intricacies of the situation and the fact that GOG is usually the last of the bigger online distributors to get the latest games anyway, I just find this to be another disappointment in a line of disappointments.

I get it, developers want to be able to pay their electric bills and buy fancy things with more cash, too, but I would like them to take note of the consumer aspect of this. A lot of their prior game's established playerbase are already on either Steam or GOG, and are not super likely to branch out to Epic right off the bat. And while Epic's store might not end up to be as bad, unfriendly, and useless as Origin, it doesn't mean consumers are going to spill out of a magic portal looking to entrench themselves on another digital distribution platform.

The Epic Store will have to go above and beyond everything currently available to make consumers want to drop the platforms they're likely already heavily invested in. I'm personally already spread out enough between GOG and Steam.

I was planning on making their next game, the very Privateer-like Rebel Galaxy Outlaws, a day-one purchase (on GOG, preferably, and Steam eventually, or vice versa depending on who got it first), but I guess I'll have to wait, and if I have to wait, I can wait a bit longer for a sale, as well.

Regardless, I wish the developers well, but hope for a lightening up of these consumer-unfriendly "exclusives" in the future.
Post edited December 24, 2018 by GalacticKnight
Posted January 06, 2019
It's a shame. I was looking forward to it, but I'll take a hard pass on loading up yet another launcher. I wish they wouldn't insult our intelligence by pretending this is somehow in their customer's best interest. Just be honest, it was for money, and nothing else. At least I could respect that.

Anyway, maybe I'll get it on a GOG sale in a year or so, maybe not. I definitely will not pay full price for year old leftovers.
Posted January 06, 2019
I don't understand why you don't react such this way with the so many Steam games which appear on GOG late, even later.
Post edited January 06, 2019 by ERISS
Posted February 01, 2019
I am in the "wait for the game to come to GOG" camp. I never liked Steam,and do not want to make an account for a new store just for one game that will come to GOG anyway.(yeah I will wait a year but I rather get the game from a store I have used for 10 years.)
Posted February 04, 2019
I'm also in the "I'll wait" camp. Prefer GoG, Steam if needed but Epic can go to hell. Even with the fancy Google+ login, Eisberg. "Google ain't evil" my ass. :-P
Posted February 10, 2019
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wintermute.: I'm also in the "I'll wait" camp. Prefer GoG, Steam if needed but Epic can go to hell. Even with the fancy Google+ login, Eisberg. "Google ain't evil" my ass. :-P
I find the whole thread funny because there were lots of PC games in 2004 who felt the same way about Steam and now nobody cares. :) Really, there's a % or two of gamers who don't like Steam (me being one from the begining), and those who hate on the other platforms will be in the same boat in 15 years down the road like I am now with Steam (I went from HL2 launch to 2011 w/o buying one thing on Steam, and almost every single thing was on sale). Valve made it popular to do download only & had a near monopoly on it until GoG & EA's system came out, now everybody's doing it. Soon, Steam may have less new main stream titles then GoG just because this is the DRM-free place to go & the AAA compaies will have their own places. I'm waiting for the day Valve seperates Steam & gave dev & we watch Valve IP's get pieces apart like Activision, THQ, Interplay, Sierra, etc. :)


Also, anyone else notice that Epic almost had the market cornered on indy AAA engine games? I'm guessing Epic makes it easier to use their store ifyou use their engine. Don't actuatly know, but would make sense.

BTW, thanks to this thead I know why I didn't see it advertized on GoG. Thanks for that. :)
Posted February 11, 2019
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ERISS: I don't understand why you don't react such this way with the so many Steam games which appear on GOG late, even later.
I don't buy those games either. However, it sucks when two high profile games that might have actually come to gog, this and metro exodus end up being exclusives at another site because they opened their pocket books.

Fortunately, I have the option of voting with mine.
Posted March 10, 2019
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mkess: And I won't pay full prive at that time, because the game is by then a year old. Otherwise I would have bought your game on release, but I think I wait for the DRM free version on a sale here now.

I am an old gamer, having a backlog of over 900 games, consoles games included, collected within my lifetime of gaming. I do not need to buy any new game at launch.

I will sit this one out. I really hope for you, that your plan, getting more money from the shops will work out, but I fear, it will backfire, because taking games hostage on a platform as leverage is not a good idea, and as customer unfriendly as it can get.

As is the epic game store is for us customers. No refunds, no review system planned. And demanding too much personal data from us, before we are able to buy anything from them. Maybe you should check this out, before binding your success to the store.

Regardless of your intentions, you wiill be seen as "the bad guys", too. For making the exclusive deal for a whole year. Think about it. The most sales of any game are in the first two weeks after the release day. It's common game developer knowledge.So 3 months exclusivity would have been more fair to you, and the customers.

The epic store screwed you, too. Binding you for one year, denying you to sell your product to a wider range of customers. You will actually loose money that way, because after that year, you can only get around half the price for your now old game on the other stores.

Maybe I am wrong, but I think that is the way it will go down.
I did not know about this. I totally agree with you. Anti consumer practices are terrible.
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ERISS: I don't understand why you don't react such this way with the so many Steam games which appear on GOG late, even later.
Steam is not telling them to not go anywhere else. They have the choice to come to GOG if they want to.
Steam needs competition I would of and was going for the epic launcher until Metro. i think Epic misstepped there.
Post edited March 10, 2019 by smuggly
Posted March 10, 2019
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smuggly: Steam is not telling them to not go anywhere else. They have the choice to come to GOG if they want to.
Steam needs competition I would of and was going for the epic launcher until Metro. i think Epic misstepped there.
Editors do tell to not go anywhere else, since long they did this by using Steam as exclusive platform. That's the same effect than Epic.
Posted March 10, 2019
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smuggly: Steam is not telling them to not go anywhere else. They have the choice to come to GOG if they want to.
Steam needs competition I would of and was going for the epic launcher until Metro. i think Epic misstepped there.
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ERISS: Editors do tell to not go anywhere else, since long they did this by using Steam as exclusive platform. That's the same effect than Epic.
I do not agree. To each his own. Steam is problematic though and needs competition to keep it in line.
Posted March 10, 2019
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smuggly: To each his own.
Nope, I don't have a "own", nor Steam nor Epic,
even nor GOG (ex-Steamboyz hate me when I criticize their new GOG lover), despite I buy much here.
Post edited March 10, 2019 by ERISS
Posted March 13, 2019
On principle I don't have any particular misgivings about another client, since I already have four installed and sure as hell I don't have to pay for it like, say, buying a new console to play an exclusive.
On the other hand recent events made me think that Steam is literally too big to fail and rather than shrink Steam a bit (which would not be a bad thing, I like capitalism and de facto monopolies can break any healthy competition exactly like full monopolies in most fields) it will probably hurt smaller stores like GOG which is something I really don't like.
I really want to give Double Damage my money for the game on launch day or close to it and I know how critical it can be for indie devs but the possibility of contributing to a potential reduction of choices in a market that already doesn't have that many makes me feel conflicted about buying the game on Epic.
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Rebel GalaxyJust to let you know, devs. I buy "Rebel Galaxy Outlaws" here on GOG, after the 12 months exclusive period on the epic game store expires.(27 posts)(27 posts)
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