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Hi all - I've restarted this series with hopes of importing my character through all the games, but I'm stalling out on the very first one! For some reason I can't for the life of me sneak past Toro to make it behind the rock in the brigand fortress without him catching me...I feel like my stealth score is good enough (at least it worked fine for the Kobold), but I'm about to tear my hair out...I've tried reducing the cycles in DosBox to see if that did anything (it doesn't as far as I can tell). Any help is much appreciated!
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This segment actually relies on a bit of player skill and good timing.

You have to time it so that he's face away from you as you sneak over to the right side, and be behind the rocks by the time he turns around and starts heading left.

Alternatively, if your climbing skill is really high, you can actually climb the wall on the left side instead of having to go to the right side, thus enabling you to practically skip most of the difficulty here.
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Zachski: This segment actually relies on a bit of player skill and good timing.

You have to time it so that he's face away from you as you sneak over to the right side, and be behind the rocks by the time he turns around and starts heading left.

Alternatively, if your climbing skill is really high, you can actually climb the wall on the left side instead of having to go to the right side, thus enabling you to practically skip most of the difficulty here.
Thank you! I have tried this about fifty times by now and nothing seems to work; I'll try climbing on the left side and hopefully that will get me through!
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Zachski: This segment actually relies on a bit of player skill and good timing.

You have to time it so that he's face away from you as you sneak over to the right side, and be behind the rocks by the time he turns around and starts heading left.

Alternatively, if your climbing skill is really high, you can actually climb the wall on the left side instead of having to go to the right side, thus enabling you to practically skip most of the difficulty here.
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boxmm819: Thank you! I have tried this about fifty times by now and nothing seems to work; I'll try climbing on the left side and hopefully that will get me through!
There are also two things you can do to help. Cycles aren't going to make too much a difference, but game speed (+/- keys) will. Turning the speed ALL the way up will actually give you "more" time; you'll need better button control, but you can get SIGNIFICANTLY farther before the game checks to see if Toro can see you.

The second thing to do, also, is to wait in the bushes and move "Up" before moving out. For some reason, this seems to cancel the bush rustling animation. The other alternative is to make the bush rustle on the high speed above. I found these little trick of the engine out while working on the tool-assisted speedrun of the game : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4CU5VHU1Gg

Zachski's advice will probably work. Really, you don't actually need to worry about the quality of your Stealth skill with Toro. He's even easier to handle than the Kobold (who needs exactly 35 or more).
Post edited July 31, 2017 by mrprmiller
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boxmm819: Thank you! I have tried this about fifty times by now and nothing seems to work; I'll try climbing on the left side and hopefully that will get me through!
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mrprmiller: There are also two things you can do to help. Cycles aren't going to make too much a difference, but game speed (+/- keys) will. Turning the speed ALL the way up will actually give you "more" time; you'll need better button control, but you can get SIGNIFICANTLY farther before the game checks to see if Toro can see you.

The second thing to do, also, is to wait in the bushes and move "Up" before moving out. For some reason, this seems to cancel the bush rustling animation. The other alternative is to make the bush rustle on the high speed above. I found these little trick of the engine out while working on the tool-assisted speedrun of the game : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4CU5VHU1Gg

Zachski's advice will probably work. Really, you don't actually need to worry about the quality of your Stealth skill with Toro. He's even easier to handle than the Kobold (who needs exactly 35 or more).
thank you for your advice! if all else fails I'll turn it up to 11 ;)