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Yeah, my question explains it all. The game really isn't that bad, just a bit sadistic, and you can turn off the sound and skip the cutscenes. Really this is just an attempt to make politicians go mental and in my view just for that, I commend GOG for actually adding this game to their game list. Sure it isn't a good idea, but what's really wrong with a game where you shoot humans and anyone you want to go through to the next level. Pretty much every game you kill humans and the only difference is which race/gender/age/level of retardation thanks to poorly coded AI, but come on, this game is just shock horror violence. Not much to see, but since I bought it, after reading what some politician said, then playing the game, it's just to scare you and make you think the game is horrible.
Either way, it's your choice if you hate it, think it's crap or not but it's not a bad game. Just a game made to be bad, like Duke Nukem except replace the dancing girl riding a scarf with massacaring an entire country! (and then your local Wal-mart (ASDA))
People are being far too uptight. It was a fun game back when I was a kid so the nostalgia is there and in my eyes this makes Postal a good ol' game worth buying.
I wonder if Carmageddon will get the same reception as Postal...
Heh, I don't give a damn how violent a game is, it's still just a GAME in the end. Besides, if I wanted to play cute cuddly-feely rainbow-loving candy games then I would buy them. Violent games are fun, they are a legitimate form of release when stress is just getting piled on, and so on. People will piss and moan about it in general, but they don't have to buy it.
Do what you will.
Because Jack Thompson made multiple GoG accounts and is being his usual trolling self. :XD:
Seriously though, it's because people are too damn uptight for their own good.
I think if you read the reviews and comments you'll find that people such as myself aren't arguing against Postal because its violent. From someone who enjoyed Postal 2, a game that took the violence to a completely new level, that would be a difficult argument to make. The problem is that it's monotonous, plot-less and overly simplistic. It's not even a decent time waster, as it failed to draw me in, or even provide a significant challenge. That is of course my opinion, but it's an educated one from having played the game when it first came out.
Claiming that people here don't like it because it's too violent or over the top, or because they're "uptight" is flailing at the same old straw-man that RWS themselves use to defend the product, which is simply if Congress didn't like it than it must be good. Sorry, but I don't get subversive thrills from playing a boring game simply because its violent.
To put it simple...many dont understand it is just a game...and even if they think they do the jump back to the incident with the Columbine shooting where many assumed the kids from that were influenced by Doom which turned out to be bogus in the end...
So yea...it is just a game...
Now yes it is the most violent/controversial game ever made...well besides Postal 3, which btw from vids I have seen is going to be 10x better...
Oyea and I got Postal 2 + expansion from the main site...at the prices I think they should really be sold at...along with the first...
Post edited April 17, 2009 by Stixsmaster
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Stixsmaster: To put it simple...many dont understand it is just a game...and even if they think they do the jump back to the incident with the Columbine shooting where many assumed the kids from that were influenced by Doom which turned out to be bogus in the end...
So yea...it is just a game...
Now yes it is the most violent/controversial game ever made...well besides Postal 3, which btw from vids I have seen is going to be 10x better...
Oyea and I got Postal 2 + expansion from the main site...at the prices I think they should really be sold at...along with the first...

So in other words it's mostly because it was released like Kingpin that other game released just after columbine, they were hating on video games. Great, maybe another Jack Thompson (A British Version this time) will have a go at video games because of some bloody violent game being released during a tradegy and become some self-promoting attension seeking idiot. People are being uptight on anything that seems controversial in any way at all. Damn it! At least the indie community can release what the hell they like without any problems.
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antihippie: I think if you read the reviews and comments you'll find that people such as myself aren't arguing against Postal because its violent. From someone who enjoyed Postal 2, a game that took the violence to a completely new level, that would be a difficult argument to make. The problem is that it's monotonous, plot-less and overly simplistic. It's not even a decent time waster, as it failed to draw me in, or even provide a significant challenge. That is of course my opinion, but it's an educated one from having played the game when it first came out.
Claiming that people here don't like it because it's too violent or over the top, or because they're "uptight" is flailing at the same old straw-man that RWS themselves use to defend the product, which is simply if Congress didn't like it than it must be good. Sorry, but I don't get subversive thrills from playing a boring game simply because its violent.

Now here's a review I can respect even though I sort of enjoyed the game. I played it when it first came out. But I thought Postal 2 was the worst, most boring game I have ever seen. I stopped playing it in the middle and threw it away.
But there are people here, a lot of people apparently, who find it offensive. I can also respect that opinion without agreeing with it. What I can't understand is why those people feel that the game must be denied for all because of their opinion of that offensive nature of the game. Besides, remember how it ends? (Don't want to spoil it for anyone!)
I have to agree with a previous post, people take this stuff way too seriously.
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antihippie: Claiming that people here don't like it because it's too violent or over the top, or because they're "uptight" is flailing at the same old straw-man that RWS themselves use to defend the product, which is simply if Congress didn't like it than it must be good. Sorry, but I don't get subversive thrills from playing a boring game simply because its violent.

You may dislike the game for your own reasons, but many other people--including a few people here--actually dislike it because it is violent and sadistic. That means the OP is not addressing a straw man, he is just not addressing you. Whether you find the game boring or not is irrelevant to the present discussion. I also played the game when it came out and enjoyed it as a game. It's no masterpiece, but I had fun with it. If you didn't, well, so what? There's nothing very interesting about that.
Really? It's just me? I suggest you read the reviews. Every negative review mentions that it's "pointless," "mindless," and a "time waster." Other than a scattered post on the forum the complaints aren't that it's violent, but that the violence is a mask for ultimately played out and pointless game-play.
Also it's pretty hilarious that you say my opinion is irrelevant, when the title of this thread is a question as to why people dislike Postal. Seeing what was being posted here, I thought it was important to set the record strait, given the evidence posted in the reviews. The standard argument being presented that it's not a bad game, but that some uptight people are scared off by the violence, or by the pronouncements of uptight Congressmen. My argument, is not that the violence is the problem. It's the fact that violence and sadism are used to mask a boring game. The violence becomes an excuse to defend and promote what is not even a run of the mill shooter.
I've always been curious as to why people feel the need to defend Postal so vehemently, and always with the same straw man. If it is "my opinion" as you say, then it's value is inherent and doesn't require your reply. I wonder, if there isn't some niggling doubt in the back of your mind, that just makes you yell that much louder.
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antihippie: Claiming that people here don't like it because it's too violent or over the top, or because they're "uptight" is flailing at the same old straw-man that RWS themselves use to defend the product, which is simply if Congress didn't like it than it must be good. Sorry, but I don't get subversive thrills from playing a boring game simply because its violent.

You may dislike the game for your own reasons, but many other people--including a few people here--actually dislike it because it is violent and sadistic. That means the OP is not addressing a straw man, he is just not addressing you. Whether you find the game boring or not is irrelevant to the present discussion. I also played the game when it came out and enjoyed it as a game. It's no masterpiece, but I had fun with it. If you didn't, well, so what? There's nothing very interesting about that.
I like the violence. I dislike the sucky controls and the boring levels
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antihippie: Really? It's just me? I suggest you read the reviews. Every negative review mentions that it's "pointless," "mindless," and a "time waster." Other than a scattered post on the forum the complaints aren't that it's violent, but that the violence is a mask for ultimately played out and pointless game-play.
Also it's pretty hilarious that you say my opinion is irrelevant, when the title of this thread is a question as to why people dislike Postal. Seeing what was being posted here, I thought it was important to set the record strait, given the evidence posted in the reviews. The standard argument being presented that it's not a bad game, but that some uptight people are scared off by the violence, or by the pronouncements of uptight Congressmen. My argument, is not that the violence is the problem. It's the fact that violence and sadism are used to mask a boring game. The violence becomes an excuse to defend and promote what is not even a run of the mill shooter.
I've always been curious as to why people feel the need to defend Postal so vehemently, and always with the same straw man. If it is "my opinion" as you say, then it's value is inherent and doesn't require your reply. I wonder, if there isn't some niggling doubt in the back of your mind, that just makes you yell that much louder.
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antihippie: Claiming that people here don't like it because it's too violent or over the top, or because they're "uptight" is flailing at the same old straw-man that RWS themselves use to defend the product, which is simply if Congress didn't like it than it must be good. Sorry, but I don't get subversive thrills from playing a boring game simply because its violent.

You may dislike the game for your own reasons, but many other people--including a few people here--actually dislike it because it is violent and sadistic. That means the OP is not addressing a straw man, he is just not addressing you. Whether you find the game boring or not is irrelevant to the present discussion. I also played the game when it came out and enjoyed it as a game. It's no masterpiece, but I had fun with it. If you didn't, well, so what? There's nothing very interesting about that.

Yeah I agree with you antihippie, but all the reviews except mine are usually pointless timewaster crap as you said, but there's really nothing wrong with this game. Postal 2 I agree sucked balls, but the original was a big **** you to all those people who thought going too far was dumb. Thanks for sharing your opinion, it opened eyes to those who were just being too damn scared of gog being shut down because there adding the postal games.
People are upset because it further "legitimizes" the series as a "good" game. I thought the first game was merely ok and the second was just a gimmicky FPS that got old quick (though I did like the Old Man Murray nods).
Personally, I don't care since crap like Lionheart and Simon 3D and mediocre titles like Stonekeep are offered here along with the truly good stuff. I don't like the "we want to be offensive just because we can and we're Americans! Fuck yeah!" attitude that Vince Desi (I think that's his name) has.
The issue to me isn't the violence. It's that the controls are godawful and make the game harder than it should be. I'm all for over-the-top violence, but it needs more than just that.
Why does everyone use games as a target for controversy? I've read BOOKS worse in terms of violence than this.
Post edited August 03, 2009 by ihitterdal
Because it's trash with no redeemable features. The only people who would like a game like this are your teenager or immature adult. It's badly coded, badly designed and badly animated. If this was done by pros, it could have been a great game regardless of content.
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GideonB: Yeah, my question explains it all. The game really isn't that bad, just a bit sadistic, and you can turn off the sound and skip the cutscenes. Really this is just an attempt to make politicians go mental and in my view just for that, I commend GOG for actually adding this game to their game list. Sure it isn't a good idea, but what's really wrong with a game where you shoot humans and anyone you want to go through to the next level. Pretty much every game you kill humans and the only difference is which race/gender/age/level of retardation thanks to poorly coded AI, but come on, this game is just shock horror violence. Not much to see, but since I bought it, after reading what some politician said, then playing the game, it's just to scare you and make you think the game is horrible.
Either way, it's your choice if you hate it, think it's crap or not but it's not a bad game. Just a game made to be bad, like Duke Nukem except replace the dancing girl riding a scarf with massacaring an entire country! (and then your local Wal-mart (ASDA))