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Okay I have a lvl 8 merc rogue with a perception of 32

On the 1st level right off the jump I can get the secret room to pop that has the DR1 Magic immunity to fear helmet

Nice helmet BTW

Anyways the 3rd room with the wolf pack I can't the secret door to pop with a 32 perception

How does your perception need to be to rfind the hidden rooms that kind of map onto to the map when you walk the edges of the room?

Oh and does echolocation work/help the 5ht level arcane spell.? As it grants blind sight