left1000: Oh hmm, you're sounding pretty positive on bards in that post. Your list of builds features a level 4 bard and a level 6 bard
https://www.gog.com/forum/pathfinder_kingmaker/ineffects_guide_v2/page1 which to me meant.... you weren't a fan of "a real bard".
Dirge only unlocks at level 8. So there is no ineffect dirge bard build anywhere that I currently know of.
Is this just because thundercall19/1anything builds itself so easily? I've seen you frequently comment in that thread that a thundercaller is great, and wants to be pure or at least 19 levels for full effect. I guess maybe that just means, the build is too easy for you to bother writing it up? But it's still very good?
You also don't have an actual build for an erastil cleric that I can see in your list of builds, but at least in your unfair guide you spell the build out. I guess your build guide, isn't for totally simple builds like that build themselves like, just pick communal animal cleric, or just pick thundercaller, or just pick sylvan sorcerer, I guess you feel like no one can mess though options up too badly.
I am a great fan of taking val bard of some stripe for the ride. This guide has 2 versions of what one can do on her with different parties. Not so much as a MC. And am even less of a fan for any kinda of a caster bard. I still think those are shite.
Edit. As to the builds... This one focuses more on party composition and companion/merc synergy. The other one is mainly one-fit-all thing. It's just too much effort to make every build modular with a lot of "if so and so, then X" and would inevitably just result in confusion. And there is the fact I don't maintain the builds up to date anymore. Mostly cause owlcats community management is incompetent and doing something for the game with it's current state of affairs is too much like work and last I checked I'm not being paid. Unfair guide is closer to the date, so that's what's gonna have builds that are closer to what I'm using in my games.