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darthvictorbr: In 3.5e angel disciple gets more caster level
[url=http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Angel_Disciple_(3.5e_Prestige_Class_]http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Angel_Disciple_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)[/url]
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Valkinaz: Thats homebrew class. Non-official

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darthvictorbr: Same for Cyst Disciple_
[url=http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Cyst_Disciple_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)]http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Cyst_Disciple_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)[/url]
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Valkinaz: Homebrew class again

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darthvictorbr: Death
[url=http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Death_Disciple_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)]http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Death_Disciple_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)[/url]
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Valkinaz: Homebrew

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darthvictorbr: Divine [url=http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Divine_Disciple_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)]http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Divine_Disciple_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)[/url]
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Valkinaz: Homebrew once again

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darthvictorbr: Even titans get spell-like abilities
[url=http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Titan_Disciple_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)]http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Titan_Disciple_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)[/url]
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Valkinaz: Guess what! Homebrew!

As you might noticed, none of classes you posted here are official so cant be used as reference. In case you do not know - homebrew is unofficial class made using basic dnd mechanics

And if you still do not believe me, you can check it yourself - its in Dungeon Master's Guide on p183. No spellcasting progression, only bonus spell slots
Thanks. You are right.
Sorry darthvictorbr but that other classes get spell progression is not relevant to dragon disciple even if they would be official which they aren't anyway. Homebrew = fan made class.

Dragon Disciple doesn't grant spellcasting progression because he shouldn't have. Thats why Kaedrin or PRC doesn't grant this feature either.

Nothing stops you to modify RDD to grant it though - someone could call it cheating but it is your game so what.

Not sure how in NWN2 but in NWN all you need is to modify classes.2da and set ArcSpellMod column to 1 for line with Red Dragon Disciple.
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shadooow: Sorry darthvictorbr but that other classes get spell progression is not relevant to dragon disciple even if they would be official which they aren't anyway. Homebrew = fan made class.

Dragon Disciple doesn't grant spellcasting progression because he shouldn't have. Thats why Kaedrin or PRC doesn't grant this feature either.

Nothing stops you to modify RDD to grant it though - someone could call it cheating but it is your game so what.

Not sure how in NWN2 but in NWN all you need is to modify classes.2da and set ArcSpellMod column to 1 for line with Red Dragon Disciple.
I think that depends. If i an using this modded classes in my computer or in a server. If i an using this a server, then they should allow me use this mod. But thanks, i've learned that some years ago, i've used DD in 3.5 campaign with pathfinder rules...
Well, if your DM allowed you thats ok. Pathfinder is based on dnd 3.5(parts published under ogl license) so it should be roughly balanced
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Valkinaz: Well, if your DM allowed you thats ok. Pathfinder is based on dnd 3.5(parts published under ogl license) so it should be roughly balanced
Even if you create an OP character, the DM can balance the encounters and put tougher monsters to balance the encounters, so D&D Lawyers/D&D engineers(people who focus more in using rules to create OP stuff than role play) aren't a problem . In computer cRPG this is very hard/almost impossible to be "implemented"...
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Valkinaz: Well, if your DM allowed you thats ok. Pathfinder is based on dnd 3.5(parts published under ogl license) so it should be roughly balanced
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darthvictorbr: Even if you create an OP character, the DM can balance the encounters and put tougher monsters to balance the encounters, so D&D Lawyers/D&D engineers(people who focus more in using rules to create OP stuff than role play) aren't a problem . In computer cRPG this is very hard/almost impossible to be "implemented"...
It can still be a problem in you run a party game. One powerbuilder can become problem for DM if other players do not optimise their characters. If you tweak encounter for powerbuilder it might become impossible for other players xD SO having relatively balanced classes is still important
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darthvictorbr: Even if you create an OP character, the DM can balance the encounters and put tougher monsters to balance the encounters, so D&D Lawyers/D&D engineers(people who focus more in using rules to create OP stuff than role play) aren't a problem .
Provided, of course, that the player doesn't manage to create something like Pun-Pun. A character like that breaks the game so badly that the only way for the DM to keep the game sane would be to disallow it.

(For those who aren't aware, Pun-Pun is a D&D 3.5 build that manages, with the help of a polymorph ability and a way to get a supernatural ability from the assumed form, an ability that was never intended to be available to the player. Most notably, this ability allows the user to grant scaled ones arbitrary abilities. The closest equivalent in a CRPG would be something like arbitrary code execution.)
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dtgreene: Provided, of course, that the player doesn't manage to create something like Pun-Pun.
I think Pun-Pun deserve to be linked here xD
Pun-Pun)
Post edited October 06, 2017 by Valkinaz
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Valkinaz: It can still be a problem in you run a party game. One powerbuilder can become problem for DM if other players do not optimise their characters. If you tweak encounter for powerbuilder it might become impossible for other players xD SO having relatively balanced classes is still important
You are right but the master can try correct this "artificially' giving overpowered items to under-powered party members...

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dtgreene: Provided, of course, that the player doesn't manage to create something like Pun-Pun. A character like that breaks the game so badly that the only way for the DM to keep the game sane would be to disallow it.

(For those who aren't aware, Pun-Pun is a D&D 3.5 build that manages, with the help of a polymorph ability and a way to get a supernatural ability from the assumed form, an ability that was never intended to be available to the player. Most notably, this ability allows the user to grant scaled ones arbitrary abilities. The closest equivalent in a CRPG would be something like arbitrary code execution.)
Pun-pun is completely "broken", not simple "overpowered". Pun-pun can easily kill even gods.
Post edited October 06, 2017 by darthvictorbr
Only an update. The closet think that i've found is the Dragonheart Mage class from Athasreborn - PRC http://www.athasreborn.com/prc/manual/english/content/prestige_classes/249.html


Still without "dragon form", but is the closest think that i can reach in a cRPG than my one and half year adventure 10 years ago...
Pre-e-e-e-etty sure this guy doesn't have CL progression in PRC. As far as I remember, only Archmage progress CL...