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Yeah, I'm dutifully impressed that I get the chance to move from Realmyst (I have the GOG version) to the Realmyst Masterpiece Edition at a discount just like everybody else - except that I can use the discount somewhat longer than people who don't have Realmyst from GOG. I'm really impressed!

In general, I like GOG, but in this case I find your pricing approach simply embarrassing. Well, I don't have to accept it - and I won't.
Post edited May 08, 2014 by Greywolf1
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Greywolf1: Yeah, I'm dutifully impressed that I get the chance to move from Realmyst (I have the GOG version) to the Realmyst Masterpiece Edition at a discount just like everybody else - except that I can use the discount somehat longer than people who don't have Realmysr from GOG. I'm really impressed!

In general, I like GOG, but in this case I find your pricing approach simply embarrassing. Well, I don't have to accept it - and I won't.
I thought the same.
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Greywolf1: Yeah, I'm dutifully impressed that I get the chance to move from Realmyst (I have the GOG version) to the Realmyst Masterpiece Edition at a discount just like everybody else - except that I can use the discount somewhat longer than people who don't have Realmyst from GOG. I'm really impressed!

In general, I like GOG, but in this case I find your pricing approach simply embarrassing. Well, I don't have to accept it - and I won't.
What exactly are you complaining about? Are you complaining?

OP, your post needs some serious re-writing, it makes no sense as it is.
^ I think the OP is sarcastically complaining that the bonus doesn't make much sense. People who already own Real Myst are probably going to buy Real Myst: Masterpiece Edition pretty quickly after release if they want it, so having the discount for an extra month is kind of meh.

It would have been nicer to have a bigger discount since we already paid for Real Myst to begin with. But I know the pricing decision was probably Cyan's idea rather than GOG's so oh well.
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Jennifer: ^ I think the OP is sarcastically complaining that the bonus doesn't make much sense. People who already own Real Myst are probably going to buy Real Myst: Masterpiece Edition pretty quickly after release if they want it, so having the discount for an extra month is kind of meh.

It would have been nicer to have a bigger discount since we already paid for Real Myst to begin with. But I know the pricing decision was probably Cyan's idea rather than GOG's so oh well.
Exactly. I wouldn't have backed abduction if I knew Cyan is charging money again for fixing a broken game (realMyst is a mess as is obvious). But hey, selling the same game 4 times ... but I'm not buying this for sure. You are right: It's not GOGs fault. Cyan has this wonderful idea about milking people instead of fixing their mistakes for free.
Post edited May 08, 2014 by wintermute.
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Jennifer: ^ I think the OP is sarcastically complaining that the bonus doesn't make much sense. People who already own Real Myst are probably going to buy Real Myst: Masterpiece Edition pretty quickly after release if they want it, so having the discount for an extra month is kind of meh.

It would have been nicer to have a bigger discount since we already paid for Real Myst to begin with. But I know the pricing decision was probably Cyan's idea rather than GOG's so oh well.
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wintermute.: Exactly. I wouldn't have backed abduction if I knew Cyan is charging money again for fixing a broken game (realMyst is a mess as is obvious). But hey, selling the same game 4 times ... but I'm not buying this for sure. You are right: It's not GOGs fault. Cyan has this wonderful idea about milking people instead of fixing their mistakes for free.
I didn't have any bother witrh RealMyst, I don't mind the price of realMyst Master piece... if I'd never played it before, but I have.

I liked realmyst because there was an extra age that was cool, but unless I've missed something this is just the same thing all over again, only nicer looking. But yes "meh", not bothered, I'll just wait a year til its 2.99, by which time they'll be something else in any case catching my attention.

the fickleness of not quite youth.
What is ridiculous is that it is the same exact game! (minor graphics improvement aside). I can think of plenty of companies that have been far more generous with their installed user base which amounts to little more then an update (The duo behind FTL for example who gave out their update for free!). And this is just mean. I just bought realmyst last year, and then this comes out. A bigger discount, I'd understand, but a minor extension to the discount is really no benefit. Lets face it, for newcomers, there is little value in purchasing realmyst and regular myst masterpice edition now, as this is a combination of the two. I don't understand gog hosting either now.
Post edited May 08, 2014 by herecomethe2000
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herecomethe2000: -whinging-
Do the words 'TImeless Classic' mean anything to you?
Atlantico: I'm not complaining. It was a sarcastic comment, yes, plus a clear statement that I myself won't buy it. And I felt it was important to let GOG and everyone else know how I feel about this creative pricing and marketing idea to try to sell customers who have Realmyst already an updated version at the same price as new customers (and quite a high one, too), by offering a "benefit" (discount longer valid) hardly anyone will be using.
Of course, GOG / Cyan are free to do business as they like, but I, as a customer, am free not to play their game. And I'm free to talk about my view.
Was that better worded? :-)

Jennifer: It may have been Cyan's idea rather than GOG's. But GOG didn't say so (as they did in other cases - (for example, AoW3, if I remember correctly). I'd have preferred to see an explanation why GOG's Realmyst customers are expected to pay the same price for this update as new customers, beyond "we're trying to milk you".
And the extended account period is really both embarrassing and laughable as an attempt to conceal or soften the pricing approach for existing Realmyst customers.
So I think it was appropriate to address GOG.

We can discuss this issue as long as we want. The true answer, the only one GOG and Cyan will listen to in the end, lies in the market figures. And if I take the forum discussions as an indicator, these figures will be ok for GOG and Cyan - so they've done everything right, haven't they? Unless too many people feel the value of the update doesn't justify the price in the first place - which I can't comment on.
Post edited May 09, 2014 by Greywolf1
So, I picked up realMyst:ME yesterday... I have mixed feelings about it.

On one hand I am absolutely grateful that Cyan has taken the time to port Myst to a new engine, not once, but twice! Having toyed in the game mod scene for a time, I can honestly say it is a HUGE undertaking to do what they have done, and they fully deserve the $15 they are asking for regardless of the 5 previous versions I've bought over the years (3DO, PC, iOS, etc.). Fool I may be, but I love the game. Now if they would only get the gumption up enough to redo Riven...

The mixed feelings I have are more about the technical aspects. Why not just release an updated Plasma version and send patches upstream to the open source CyanWorlds engine?

A little digging reveals why realMyst ME was developed on the Unity3D engine. Apparently while attempting to port realMyst to the iPad, they had better luck migrating the original realMyst data to Unity 3D than they did with porting their own Plasma engine to iOS.

"Based on early experimentation, the programming team was convinced that realMyst could be ported to Unity, and that it would run and look better than the original, with multi-platform options to boot."

It would have been an awesome boon to the Myst modding community to see Cyan working to bolster the abilities of Plasma, and continue to work towards Open Source solutions; sending commit changes upstream to CWE. But they are primarily a story telling house and they need to make money to keep it up. If they can use existing technology at hand to get those stories out to us, that's just the way the economy works.
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herecomethe2000: -whinging-
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Darvond: -high horse riding-
Yes, it's the game I already recently bought and now being asked to update at the same rate as everyone else with no real discount or benefit.

Does the words 'Fit For Purchase' mean anything to you?
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herecomethe2000: Yes, it's the game I already recently bought and now being asked to update at the same rate as everyone else with no real discount or benefit.

Does the words 'Fit For Purchase' mean anything to you?
Yes, but Real Myst isn't inherently broken, so I'm just going to quietly barricade that argument like one barricades a person from Obrastan with forged papers.

Now had you brought up the argument against Ride To Hell, Pacman 2600, or Extreme Paintbrawl...
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DustyStyx: Fool I may be, but I love the game. Now if they would only get the gumption up enough to redo Riven...
dear santa
what he said.



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Darvond: -high horse riding-
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herecomethe2000: Yes, it's the game I already recently bought and now being asked to update at the same rate as everyone else with no real discount or benefit.

Does the words 'Fit For Purchase' mean anything to you?
Cyan want to make money...seems fair,
they re-make game to do so.....fair enough
game has 30 day return.....fair again,
you buy or not.....yup ok fair.

either way the sun still rises and the world moves on.

what's the phrase "don't hate the player hate the game".
Post edited May 09, 2014 by loki1969
Good grief. You critics say rM:ME isn't worth even existing regardless of the price. So if you're not gonna invest in it anyway why even bother to complain about it? Besides, everyone knew this was coming and we all knew exactly what to expect from it. So why do this now? You're late.

And you're complaining about a discount. A freaking discount? A discount that Cyan and GoG courteously grant to anyone who has already invested in realMyst simply because you're a loyal customer and they appreciate you more than to make you pay for a graphical upgrade twice.

If you don't like it, keep your money ... and your silence.
Sorry, what am I missing?

I bought both Myst and RealMyst only recently (as it turns out) thinking they werre separate games. So now there's an updated version of the latter being sold as a separate purchase again? Is that what's happening?

I can't see it listed though, so I'm a bit confused. Where should I be looking?

EDITED TO ADD:
Oh no, there it is. Maybe I mistyped. Sorry.
Post edited June 25, 2014 by Branais