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I know you can fire a merc at the end of the day once you're on the screen with your bed and laptop.

Anyway I did it from that last screen but a few days after my financial situation improved I tried to hire him in vain, do I have to have a low enough turnover rate for him to agree to come back, or is it just impossible to rehire him?

And what is the difference between firing one of our men at the beginning of the day (tactical screen with the map of the island) or at the end of the day (cabin screen/laptop)?
Post edited March 24, 2020 by thedkm
This question / problem has been solved by DarzaRimage
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thedkm: I know you can fire a merc at the end of the day once you're on the screen with your bed and laptop.
Actually you also can fire a merc at the end of the day before that too, at "payment and stats" screen.
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thedkm: Anyway I did it from that last screen but a few days after my financial situation improved I tried to hire him in vain, do I have to have a low enough turnover rate for him to agree to come back, or is it just impossible to rehire him?
Yes, its impossible to re-hire a fired merc. Pretty odd decision from game designers. Another weird design decision is ability to re-hire a non-paid merc, with supposed repaying of triple amount of money you owe to him/her in front just to be able to make a hire attempt (and in addition, that hire attempt had to be a all or nothing kind, unlike a usual way, so if that non-paid merc will refuse join that time due to some other reason, it will be permanent). To make it worse, due to bug, re-hiring of non-paid merc included no actual penalty at all. For bugfix and more detailed explanation refer patch 1.15.
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thedkm: And what is the difference between firing one of our men at the beginning of the day (tactical screen with the map of the island) or at the end of the day (cabin screen/laptop)?
Firing at the beginning of the day (tactical screen with the map of the island) is useful if player cannot afford a costs to start a day otherwise, say due to tree price drop occurred that morning. Firing at laptop screen is generally preferred, as player same time can hire a replacement to be at disposal the next morning. Firing at "payment and stats" screen is of little use beside when being unable to pay all mercs at evening, as game will let you fire without paying for the day there only in case of an actual inabilty to pay all mercs, but not at will (for bugs related to it refer patch 1.15).

Also its little to no reason to ask about JA1 at bearpit, im not using it anymore.
And also its better to ask about JA1 in patch 1.15 thread, so the info could stick together instead of being scattered and lost in a small one-shot threads such a this one.
Post edited March 25, 2020 by DarzaR
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thedkm: I know you can fire a merc at the end of the day once you're on the screen with your bed and laptop.
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DarzaR: Actually you also can fire a merc at the end of the day before that too, at "payment and stats" screen.
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thedkm: Anyway I did it from that last screen but a few days after my financial situation improved I tried to hire him in vain, do I have to have a low enough turnover rate for him to agree to come back, or is it just impossible to rehire him?
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DarzaR: Yes, its impossible to re-hire a fired merc. Pretty odd decision from game designers. Another weird design decision is ability to re-hire a non-paid merc, with supposed repaying of triple amount of money you owe to him/her in front just to be able to make a hire attempt (and in addition, that hire attempt had to be a all or nothing kind, unlike a usual way, so if that non-paid merc will refuse join that time due to some other reason, it will be permanent). To make it worse, due to bug, re-hiring of non-paid merc included no actual penalty at all. For bugfix and more detailed explanation refer patch 1.15.
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thedkm: And what is the difference between firing one of our men at the beginning of the day (tactical screen with the map of the island) or at the end of the day (cabin screen/laptop)?
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DarzaR: Firing at the beginning of the day (tactical screen with the map of the island) is useful if player cannot afford a costs to start a day otherwise, say due to tree price drop occurred that morning. Firing at laptop screen is generally preferred, as player same time can hire a replacement to be at disposal the next morning. Firing at "payment and stats" screen is of little use beside when being unable to pay all mercs at evening, as game will let you fire without paying for the day there only in case of an actual inabilty to pay all mercs, but not at will (for bugs related to it refer patch 1.15).

Also its little to no reason to ask about JA1 at bearpit, im not using it anymore.
And also its better to ask about JA1 in patch 1.15 thread, so the info could stick together instead of being scattered and lost in a small one-shot threads such a this one.
Well thank you for your help, I know it's impossible to hire them again.

From now on I'll post in the topic you indicated.

If I posted on the Pit Bear forum it's simply that on the GoG forum nobody answers to my different topics about the game, so it's to maximize my chances of answers.
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thedkm: If I posted on the Pit Bear forum it's simply that on the GoG forum nobody answers to my different topics about the game, so it's to maximize my chances of answers.
Im slightly puzzled now: can you provide at least some example about your "different topics about the game" not being answered on the GoG forum, as i cant easily see one? Of course, assuming "the game" is JA1 im only was about and clearly said so. In case you mean JA:DG, you shouldnt call it "the game" together with JA1, as its two different games, with different rules. The fact of JA:DG is using a modified JA1 engine is of no direct matter here, as, for example, JA2 is also using modified JA1 engine; it doesnt make them the same game in result. In case you indeed mean JA:DG as "the game" tho - its of no harm at all to ask about it in bearpit too, and i never said otherwise, as its of no harm to add some other place where nobody will answers to your different topics about the game. I could even recommend asking about it in some football or culinary forums too, to maximize the audience of people, who will not answer to your different topics about the game.

Nevertheless, bearpit is slightly different (sadly both in better and worse way) on the subject compared to culinary forums here - as its not that hard to get some actual answer there. Its more complicated if you mind right/useful answer, and if case is more complex than already described in the game manual 25 years ago (in this certain special case you could even get right answer there). So, if you dont mind a wrong answer, or your question is blatantly easy and banal its could be of use to ask there.

Problem of bearpit place is what it often runned by people, ridiculously incompetent on a subject of section they're run. Like the Sirtech Classic moderator, who is simply ignorant about those old games (he tend to formulate it as "it was long ago when i played it..."), but like to jump into threads with some crap pretending to be helpful (actually the disgrace of that board is impressive mix of moders activity when its not needed, say closing a thread when i was explaining something instead of kicking couple of morons busy spoiling it out of place, or that ubiquitous behavior of posting "meaningful" messages like one we're about "hi and welcome, i dont know about your question, but i hope you will still enjoy your game, cheers!", together with total indifference to actual problem arriving. say gog forums moders tend to provide only indifference, and its already way better).

As a fun stuff, that guy now also shows really worrying symptoms of total inability to read or even much worse:
1) Not only he didnt addressed you to the GOG thread of 1.15 as a source of possible answer to your JA1 question, and proudly linked some irrelevant obsolete old guides full of wrong info and fantasies. Three quick explanations of that could be:
a) He is shamelessly incompetent, and its the lucky fact he didnt provided a link of assembling IKEA table, or something even less relevant, instead of it;
b) He is simply not aware about link to GOG, meaning he dont read even the messages in his his own section, despite there is not many of them, and no matter their importance. The fact he did answered to your post (even with the useless BS of him) contradicting it tho, as it mean he do read the messages in his his own section. Valid explanation still could be of him not reading my posts, tho.
c) He is aware about link to GOG, but not provided it to you for a reason, meaning an intentional disruptive behavior (really frightening for a moderator).

But this is a fun and games yet, coming to:
2) Out of sudden he wrote a message about 1.15 patch problem, with link to GOG forum 1.15 thread included. Totally jaw-dropping. So he wrote about that problem in his own board, despite that very place have a message, saying what about possible problems one have to write to GOG. As he somehow managed to verify he's perfectly aware of that thread, as he provided a link to it, possibilities are:
a) He is shamelessly incompetent, and will search for the lost keys under a streetlamp and not where he lost them. Despite have a direct link to a place to ask for help on a subject, he write about it on own forums. I hope he also opened his fridge and reported a problem there too as a first step of him;
b) He is simply not aware about link to GOG, it will be at least very worrying, as he provided a link to it in very same message, lets leave it by now;
c) He is aware about link to GOG (we know its most likely true now), so he is doing it with some malicious purpose (rather mysterious one), and not bothering about even hurting other users of own forums in process.

But it still was not a cliffhanger yet, here it come yuge:
3) Few (just three actually) messages after the one with problem he linked, and 4 (four) days prior (!) he posted his message, there was a post with solution (for his problem) already. By the moment i write it now (some more days later) he seems to still be not aware of it, or somewhy reluctant to tell others about it.
Its just a killer, as he's not some regular moron, well, he supposedly doing some administrative work there, and he dont read even the things he provide a links by himself? Pandemia ruined a planned hospitalization for him, so he run the place amok? Maybe it simply was his own nuts when i was told what i never be able to upload a work of mine that i provided an exclusive rights of distribution to their place on my own, because i cannot get an access rights (it could be seen even as some insult, does he mean i did all that JA1 related things to insidiously infiltrate some precious FTP server with some junk about some old game??), and should do it via him only, and other people who run the place is simply unaware about it? They didnt interfered when he expressed habit of editing somewhere else's messages first, and upload somebody else's work to some own place without bothering to ask permission first, so i thought they do support him in that, maybe i was wrong? And now he come into final meltdown of person? Why else he ask for help if he's either unable or unwilling to read anyway? There is some many questions bout it, well.

Hope it was of some help after reading some lines.

PS. I still think the main version is ridiculous incompetence and not a bad intent, as when i asked him to remove a patch from their storage he did it without much problems in process.
Post edited March 27, 2020 by DarzaR
My other unanswered question was about Deadly Games, but forget it.

I could even recommend asking about it in some football or culinary forums too, to maximize the audience of people, who will not answer to your different topics about the game.

No it's sure that Pitbear is not a forum that talks about the Jagged Alliance series... yes it's well known it talks about gardening and car tuning...(*)

(*): I'm answering you the same way you do, I'm being sarcastic.
Post edited March 27, 2020 by thedkm
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thedkm: I could even recommend asking about it in some football or culinary forums too, to maximize the audience of people, who will not answer to your different topics about the game.

No it's sure that Pitbear is not a forum that talks about the Jagged Alliance series... yes it's well known it talks about gardening and car tuning...(*)
Its not about things they are talk there or not (there is also some section bout "Off Topic Discussions", with almost twice the posts amount in comparison, say, to "Jagged Alliance & Deadly Games" section, so thats pretty possible they do talk about gardening and car tuning indeed (or i got you slightly wrong, and you mean you checked already and report confirmation?)).
Its about getting an answers like "You may also find that it is often better to "let" a merc be killed rather than firing him or her early in the game. " for a question about "status of item in deadly games" you're warmly getting there. So with minimal extrapolation involved, it would be way more useful to ask about it in culinary board - while you still will get no actual answer to your own question likely (we cant be fully sure on it, unless you already tried), irrelevant information you will get as a possible answer there could be of some actual value, if even in other sphere of human activity.
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thedkm: My other unanswered question was about Deadly Games, but forget it.
Im getting slightly lost again:
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DarzaR: Also its little to no reason to ask about JA1 at bearpit, im not using it anymore.
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thedkm: If I posted on the Pit Bear forum it's simply that on the GoG forum nobody answers to my different topics about the game, so it's to maximize my chances of answers.
I talked only about Ja1, i didnt wrote what there is little to no reason to ask about Deadly Games on bearpit (while its true as well). You mix those 2 games together or what?
Post edited March 27, 2020 by DarzaR
In the Pit Bear forum there's a section dedicated to Jagged alliance & Deadly Games, I posted there of course, so stop insisting with your grotesque 'culinary' joke, you know very well why I posted on both the Gog and Pit Bear forums.

In the past at least I've had answers on Pit Bear, now I'll know where to go to get one.

I got my answer anyway, so it's settled, so we can close the topic.

Have a nice day.
Post edited March 27, 2020 by thedkm