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djoxyk: why gog can't send invites to everyone at once? it's not like you have to craft hand written invitation for every person invited.
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tomimt: Because it is very likely their servers would crash if thousands of users would start connecting their accounts on multiple different services. They want to monitor properly how much data is roughly transferred during those connections, as they don't have any way knowing how many games each user has on their accounts. This will help them adjust their services so, that it will be ready even for those who have thousands of titles on their accounts.
it is hard to believe in failing servers due to load from syncing (what exactly they sync with servers this time?). as long as galaxy is optional client it should store all data on user side and not syncing everything user does to their library. well, maybe some crucial bits but it won't be more than they already have with old galaxy.
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djoxyk: it is hard to believe in failing servers due to load from syncing (what exactly they sync with servers this time?). as long as galaxy is optional client it should store all data on user side and not syncing everything user does to their library. well, maybe some crucial bits but it won't be more than they already have with old galaxy.
Not really. The amount of traffic the syncing causes is pretty substantial and it isn't only GOG's servers it affects, it's the servers of the other providers as well. If it was only GOG, sure, they could do a wider launch instantly, but as it is, they have to make sure it is crashing the affiliated systems as well. This whole experiment would be terminated pretty quickly if the others would find GOG is unstabilizing their services.
Post edited July 20, 2019 by tomimt
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djoxyk: it is hard to believe in failing servers due to load from syncing (what exactly they sync with servers this time?). as long as galaxy is optional client it should store all data on user side and not syncing everything user does to their library. well, maybe some crucial bits but it won't be more than they already have with old galaxy.
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tomimt: Not really. The amount of traffic the syncing causes is pretty substantial and it isn't only GOG's servers it affects, it's the servers of the other providers as well. If it was only GOG, sure, they could do a wider launch instantly, but as it is, they have to make sure it is crashing the affiliated systems as well. This whole experiment would be terminated pretty quickly if the others would find GOG is unstabilizing their services.
how someone can crash servers of stores when existing customers request basic data from it? it does not hold any water unless you imply that gog coders so bad in their coding and created something really awful (which I would debate because gog never shown any signs of bad server balancing or overload in the past, even at busy times like anticipated game launch or sales). recently gog said that 30% of Cyberpunk 2077 went thru gog storefront (that would be 1-2 millions of people simultaneously during short period of time). There's no substantial amount of data to sync, who told you that? they fetch roughly the same data volume as your steam client app would fetch when you open someone's games tab, have you seen steam to die on you when you tried to browse the library with 2-5k of games? what is the difference if you will query steam directly by opening respective page or by querying it remotely for the SAME data? same goes for all storefronts.
Post edited July 20, 2019 by djoxyk
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djoxyk: how someone can crash servers of stores when existing customers request basic data from it?
Yet it happens all the time. It isn't that uncommon to see digital storefronts, even as big as Steam, to become unresponsive under basic traffic like people browsing store content. And this isn't even mostly related to code, but to hardware as well. You might not believe it, but with net traffic and interconnected data transfer between different kinds of infrastructures do have several things which can and will most likely go wrong, causing problems. These kinds of systems are better done in small steps rather than with huge jumps.

It is better to be safe than sorry.
Post edited July 20, 2019 by tomimt
hope to get my invite soon too :)
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Bustacap: calm down, theyre not lying. if you signed up youll get your invite eventually, there are just a ton of people who registered before you. the app is pretty barebones right now anyway, youre not missing a lot
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djoxyk: it's now like I'm hyped to start using it because realistically I won't be able to even if I had invite ready, I'm on Linux and gog decided to drop Linux support for Galaxy. I'm saying about general trend here: they promised Linux port for Galaxy during last 5 years, saying it is in progress and never gave any estimate or confirmation if it will ever happen.
Now they're doing the same for all users, everyone have to wait for weeks, teased with youtube showcases from influencers. what do you mean "eventually"? are we living in some sort of soviet communism where you had to waste weeks in live queue to buy basic food or clothes? your reply fails to address my main concern - discrimination of users via delays in distribution. You try to rationalize but it does not work that way. Even if you devalue something it won't solve initial issue.

and to explain why I said that gog lies about Galaxy is their twitter post
https://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/1131228901437526016

they said it will be available for all gaming platforms but it's clearly not the case. by definition gaming platforms are PCs or consoles built to play games. it should cover Windows, Mac and Linux PCs. They lied about availability for everyone.
its not just available to influencers, youre just seeing them doing videos about it. its available to anyone, theyre not discriminating against anybody. this program is still very much a beta. and are you seriously comparing an app like this to essentials like food? get your priorities straight...
also youre misunderstanding their tweet. they didnt say the software will be available on all gaming platforms, its talking about combining all those platforms into one app
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djoxyk: how someone can crash servers of stores when existing customers request basic data from it?
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tomimt: Yet it happens all the time. It isn't that uncommon to see digital storefronts, even as big as Steam, to become unresponsive under basic traffic like people browsing store content. And this isn't even mostly related to code, but to hardware as well. You might not believe it, but with net traffic and interconnected data transfer between different kinds of infrastructures do have several things which can and will most likely go wrong, causing problems. These kinds of systems are better done in small steps rather than with huge jumps.

It is better to be safe than sorry.
sure I won't believe it because I passed my Linux admin test and I know how things work.
by your assumption it is dangerous to let 2-3 millions of people to access their galaxy clients and sync things. I'm excited to learn how in this case gog planned to let them use their galaxy 2.0 on everyday basis. what you see in profile, all data from external storefronts have to be updated and these storefronts have to be queried multiple times per user session to keep their profile updated in real time. If you're saying that they are capable to provide stable service only for a few people this time, are we going to use it only 1 day per month now to avoid big load? I bet you know the answer :)

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Bustacap: and are you seriously comparing an app like this to essentials like food? get your priorities straight...
are you seriously taking my comparison so literally? I compared soviet era queues for EVERYTHING, person would eat garbage and wear rugs, and have no car, bike, no furniture, no refrigerator, no nothing if they can't endure week long queues for the above or if they can't bribe their way to direct purchase (influencers in this case).

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Bustacap: also youre misunderstanding their tweet. they didnt say the software will be available on all gaming platforms, its talking about combining all those platforms into one app
cmon, it said what it said and it is pretty self explanatory. in addition they said this:

Import all your games from PC and consoles, and create one master collection!
Install and launch any PC game you own, no matter the platform.

Linux is PC distro and "any game" should include Linux games as well, don't you think?
Post edited July 20, 2019 by djoxyk
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Fallen_Zen: We're constantly sending invites at increasing rate so hopefully you'll get in sooner than later. Fingers crossed!
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alexcuria: When GOG Galaxy 2.0 was announced we were told

"please be patient as we’re sending invites on a first come first served basis"

Sorry that I doubt this is true or being respected. I signed up on the 24th June, just a couple of hours after the twitter announcement and still waiting. Many people have already confirmed access having signed up way later.

Dissapointed that even almost after a month you keep saying that invites are being sent. How many invites do you send per day? 50? 100? C'mon, you know that it's not first come first served, I'm guessing it has to do with activity, game library, maybe if you have a youtube channel or are some sort of influencer.

If it would be first come first served and you say sooner or later, just don't accept any more requests, they won't see the invite anyway until next year or probably it will be out of beta anyway...
You've been able to sign up since like, May 22nd. You signed up a month later. You're going to be waiting a lot longer.
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alexcuria: When GOG Galaxy 2.0 was announced we were told

"please be patient as we’re sending invites on a first come first served basis"

Sorry that I doubt this is true or being respected. I signed up on the 24th June, just a couple of hours after the twitter announcement and still waiting. Many people have already confirmed access having signed up way later.

Dissapointed that even almost after a month you keep saying that invites are being sent. How many invites do you send per day? 50? 100? C'mon, you know that it's not first come first served, I'm guessing it has to do with activity, game library, maybe if you have a youtube channel or are some sort of influencer.

If it would be first come first served and you say sooner or later, just don't accept any more requests, they won't see the invite anyway until next year or probably it will be out of beta anyway...
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Neroess: You've been able to sign up since like, May 22nd. You signed up a month later. You're going to be waiting a lot longer.
Guess I missed the announcement from 22nd May then, even now looking for it and can't find it. Anyway, this still doesn't explain why it's taking so long which brings me to the second point I expressed. It doesn't make sense to keep the signups open. If people who signed up like me on the 24th June don't have the invite, people signing up today won't get it before end of the year....
Post edited July 20, 2019 by alexcuria
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djoxyk: sure I won't believe it because I passed my Linux admin test and I know how things work.
Passing tests is easy, being responsible for possible damages worth of millions is harder.
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djoxyk: sure I won't believe it because I passed my Linux admin test and I know how things work.
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tomimt: Passing tests is easy, being responsible for possible damages worth of millions is harder.
are you high or what's the matter with you? what "damages" are you talking about? if what you say ever had any ground the whole internet would lay in ruins by this time
Post edited July 20, 2019 by djoxyk
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tomimt: Passing tests is easy, being responsible for possible damages worth of millions is harder.
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djoxyk: are you high or what's the matter with you? what "damages" are you talking about? if what you say ever had any ground the whole internet would lay in ruins by this time
You seem to believe companies are some sort of benevolent entities, which don't mind at all if their services are disrupted. Every new deal is in a sense risk for a company and they, in general, want to make sure, that if the new endeavour causes damages, there is someone who pays for them. This whole Gog Galaxy, which connects all services, is a new endeavour and if it causes problems, GOG or CDProject is the one who pays for it. Is it simply as that, so being cautious is the best possible approach.

If you don't get that, you don't. But that doesn¨t change the reality of business.
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djoxyk: are you high or what's the matter with you? what "damages" are you talking about? if what you say ever had any ground the whole internet would lay in ruins by this time
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tomimt: You seem to believe companies are some sort of benevolent entities, which don't mind at all if their services are disrupted. Every new deal is in a sense risk for a company and they, in general, want to make sure, that if the new endeavour causes damages, there is someone who pays for them. This whole Gog Galaxy, which connects all services, is a new endeavour and if it causes problems, GOG or CDProject is the one who pays for it. Is it simply as that, so being cautious is the best possible approach.

If you don't get that, you don't. But that doesn¨t change the reality of business.
you're delusional beyond all limits. GameRoom, Playnite, Lutris, RAWG and many other desktop apps and web services already use same functionality and allow seamless usage of said features. unless you're implying that gog is too awful at coding simple things and can't cope with simple syntax to query someone's API properly.

if API can't handle someone's request it will just ignore it with error, nothing will be "damaged" as you imagine. why don't you crawl out of your cave and read something real about the topic?
Post edited July 21, 2019 by djoxyk
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Zoidberg: Registered around that time too and got mine today, they are doing it slowly. Keep in mind, this is private beta, so far from complete.

Already enjoyable though, connecting other accounts being quite easy.

But not all features are there. Nice and steady. Don't worry, it'll come soon enough.
You just ansered me I had the same question. I`ll be waiting. Thanks.
Just got my invite today and I'm pretty happy with it. Really looking forward to seeing this come out of beta!

Don't worry guys, they're not forgetting anyone! Just taking them quite a while is all...
Post edited July 22, 2019 by SolidishSnake