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Here's the deal GOG Steam crapped out their UI, so you have this short window before they go back to their old ui.

Every steam thread is filled recommending Gog 2 beta.

The deal though is i still havnt got the invite.

So im sure many have applied like me to 2.0 beta after the ugly clutter ui steam put out today.

So it would be nice if u take this opportunity were steam people are motivated to give a good go of ur ui and process those invites.
I guess that you're talking about the now publicly released updated library UI?
If that's the case, sorry to burst your bubble but they're not changing it back, they've been working on it for several years and the majority of feedback during alpha and beta (which I was partaking in) was very positive.
The new UI is created from user feedback throughout the years.
People have been asking for the ability to create playlists/collections, the information panels you get for each game, etc., for years, and the only major negative (if you can even call it that) feedback that they got was some UI stuff that some people want to be able to change, like the ability to disable the "what's new" section and stuff like that.

Of course, the forums are flooded with threads the first day it goes public as there will always be people that don't like change, there were a couple of those during the beta as well but nothing major.
Especially when you're changing the UI for something that has been around for 16 years, this is a perfect example of the shock effect.
But in a couple of weeks or so, the majority of those people will have moved on and gotten used to the new UI.
If you look through the new client discussions you can see that it's the same usernames that pop up throughout the "I don't like the new UI, CHANGE IT BACK!!!" threads, so it seems like it's the classic "loud minority" wave coming through right now.

My best advice to you, get to know the new UI and the functions, you can do a lot of cool stuff that the Steam community has been asking for for years and if you can't get used to the UI just wait for the new skins to come out and see if it appeals more to you then.
In the best-case scenario for people that dislike it, they may give you the option to change the UI so that it looks more like the old one, but I highly doubt it.

Also, anyone that just leaves a platform as soon as a change they don't like or agree with is made wouldn't exactly be a reliable or useful beta tester.
The point of the Galaxy 2 beta (and any beta for that matter) is to get valuable feedback, it's not made for people that just want to get Galaxy 2 before everyone else.
New steam ui is better than the older one aside from not being able to take out the whats new section and currently no list view like before.
"the majority of feedback during alpha and beta (which I was partaking in) was very positive. "
- this is wrong, anybody who didnt like anything was grouped up on and told to just not use that "feature" or stop using the beta. I got blasted hard when I asked for a way to disable/remove the "new" chat function. As did most others with complaints or issues that were brought up. Its beta it'll be fine when they shovel it out was the response they got. I just stopped using the beta and giving any feedback since I was ignored and/or hated for it. There were plenty of complaints that just got driven down and out, so no it actually wasnt very positive. We all just stopped voicing complaints cause we were basically driven out by the gaben fan club.

"My best advice to you, get to know the new UI and the functions"
- you must be one of the people that drove away anybody posting about things they disliked or issues they found during that beta and to stop using it. "just suck it up and use it and like it"

Your entire post is basically a shut up and use it. dont like that feature? just get used to it, never mind all the extra resources it sucks up anyways, just get use to it. Sounds like you have zero valuable reason yourself to be involved with any beta testing yourself. You shoud just suck it up and get used to it btw.

the new steam reminds me of geocities free personal webpages 20 years ago that some 13yr old created with every bright flashing gadget possible stuck into it. My steam client crashed when I clicked on the store page to see if looked worse then my new library. It looks like some bad flashing mobile app with big buttons to mash easily. its straight up atrocius and uses more resources then chrome with 25 tabs open. You can max out your cpu just scrolling your games list. Good thing "valuable" beta testers like yourself were postive about that and let it go.

I dont care about or want achievements, whatever the heck badges are, chat, messaging, skins. etc. I've been forced to deal with that garbage long enough and its now at breaking point. Just give me a way to disable functions I dont need/want instead of pseudo hacking my way around them. I want/need a usable small resource footprint GAME LAUNCHER. Not some bloatware resource hogging try harding social media platform eatting up cpu and ram that launchs games on the side.

All people are asking for is options to disable/turnoff all the extra flashy bells and gimick resource wasting stuff for a simple list of their games with a play/install button beside it. But nope you're gonna get it and you're gonna like it. now look at all the big bright shiny buttons, smile and be happy.

this is what I have in my steam shortcut now.

\Steam.exe -console -nochatui -nofriendsui -no-browser -noverifyfiles -nobootstrapupdate -skipinitialbootstrap -norepairfiles -overridepackageurl +open steam://open/minigameslist

In an attempt to get a usable no frills game launcher. Minigameslist is still there for now at least. They removed you being able to just select it. I can go to the website if I want to see sales or whatever else. Which by the way uses less resources then going to the store page in the client. I might even have spyware/bloatware Discord app running (hint i refuse to install it) which almost everybody I know uses for messaging and for ingame or just hanging out chat anyways.

Right now is a perfect time to take advantage of a competing platform shooting themselves in the foot and to open up and grab what will hopefully become new users of Galaxy.

Oh btw the mods on the steam reddit are actively deleteing posts with complaints or moving them into the mega thread which hides the amount of complaints. It also has the side benefit of getting people to stop posting complaints cause they are obviously just being tossed to the side. They were actively deleteing one fellows posts on how to disable the forced whats new spam feed at the top. Probably cause its setup to feed you ads in your game library once you've clicked through all the whats new spam for a game you deleted 5 years ago and only played for 20 minutes during a free trial. Oh and once you've finally clicked through all that the whats new spam the window doesnt even close.

In a couple of weeks people are going to grudgingly end up just using it anyways cause they're now forced to since their games are locked to steam and being online for even for a single player offline game. Unless of course they finally tire of beating their heads against a wall and spend 30 seconds finding a few extra files somewhere that allows them to use the game they paid for anytime they wish even for online games without using steam.

I'm at the point where I'd rather have the 4-6 game icons on my desktop or I could even be fancy and just put them all in single folder named GAMES that uses up maybe 5kb of ram to have open. As a fancy side bonus I'm not wasting my cpu and over a gig of ram on a launcher. more power for my game? yes please.
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Iznuts: - this is wrong, anybody who didnt like anything was grouped up on and told to just not use that "feature" or stop using the beta. I got blasted hard when I asked for a way to disable/remove the "new" chat function. As did most others with complaints or issues that were brought up. Its beta it'll be fine when they shovel it out was the response they got. I just stopped using the beta and giving any feedback since I was ignored and/or hated for it. There were plenty of complaints that just got driven down and out, so no it actually wasnt very positive. We all just stopped voicing complaints cause we were basically driven out by the gaben fan club.
The statement that "anybody who didnt like anything was grouped up on" is simply not true and everyone can go see that for themselves, all of the discussion threads from alpha and beta are public now (as far as I'm aware, beta discussions has always been public).
The majority of people were very respectful towards each other.
I'm not saying that you weren't "grouped up on" by some people or didn't have a bad experience, this is the internet after all, but to suggest that this was the norm is a flat out lie.
You also gotta understand that Valve can't please everybody and sadly you are in the minority in regards to the new UI.
Most of these features have been requested since the Xbox 360 days and Valve has been working on them for years and has publicly stated that several times, so it's been a long time coming.
It sucks that you and others don't like it but as I advised OP, all you can do is try to get used to it and get as much out of the new features as possible.
You might end up liking it. You might not.
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Iznuts: - you must be one of the people that drove away anybody posting about things they disliked or issues they found during that beta and to stop using it. "just suck it up and use it and like it"
I never said anything like that, stop putting words in my mouth, I just gave him some friendly advice as to what he can do in this situation.
I always try to have as calm and rational discussions as possible.

You, on the other hand, have a very aggressive, judgemental way of addressing other people and the impression that you're giving me by doing so is that you had a couple of people disagree with you, but in your head it became this huge thing where everyone is grouping up on you, and that everyone that disagrees with you must think the exact same way as those people, hence why you were so quick to throw me in that box.
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Iznuts: Your entire post is basically a shut up and use it. dont like that feature? just get used to it, never mind all the extra resources it sucks up anyways, just get use to it. Sounds like you have zero valuable reason yourself to be involved with any beta testing yourself. You shoud just suck it up and get used to it btw.
Calm down my dude, take a deep breath and re-read my reply.
When your point of view is as full of anger as yours is, you'll find meaning that isn't there in every statement that doesn't pander to your opinion.
I was just stating facts and giving OP some completely neutral suggestions, it has absolutely nothing to do with my personal opinion about the new UI.
I never stated that the new UI is perfect even though you act as if I did, as a matter of fact, I never once stated my personal opinion about the new UI in my post.

Have you ever wondered how people are getting invited to alpha?
Alpha invitations aren't something you're signing up for, Valve manually picks you out from past beta tests because of your ability to give actual feedback and constructive criticism.
So stating that I have "zero valuable reason" to be in the beta is just plain silly.
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Iznuts: I dont care about or want achievements, whatever the heck badges are, chat, messaging, skins. etc. I've been forced to deal with that garbage long enough and its now at breaking point. Just give me a way to disable functions I dont need/want instead of pseudo hacking my way around them. I want/need a usable small resource footprint GAME LAUNCHER.
I gotta be honest, I don't really think Galaxy 2 is for you then, the whole point of Galaxy 2 is to combine all of those features from the different platforms into one. It's not just a game launcher.

Take a look at LaunchBox, I think you might like it, it's made specifically for what you're describing.

Anyway, I hope that you end up coming to terms with the new UI somehow and maybe don't be so rash with your judgment in the future, not everything is as black and white as you make it out to be and there's actually a lot of friendly people out there, ready to have a calm discussion about stuff! ;)
"You also gotta understand that Valve can't please everybody and sadly you are in the minority in regards to the new UI"

theres a straw poll going on and its 55-60% wanting the old UI back, 5-7% that actually like the new UI. I've already looked at playnite but it still requires me to still have steam running. I'm guessing i'll be doing a quick web search for a few files to just stop using steam. I have a large dislike of bloated programs that are required to do 1 task and for steam thats launch a game.

Reddits filled with dislike, steam beta forum filled with dislike, web pages all over the place with people disliking the new ui. its not a popular change at all. funny thing in the steam forums most of the people liking the new UI are lvl 0 accounts with private profiles. hmmmmmm

I'd say the people that like the new ui are in the small minority and the people that dislike it are actually the majority.

Not all people are hand picked for alphas most arent, you get picked randomly from a large list or signed up before they closed it. I got plenty of invites to try wow alpha content just from being a long time sub at one point. theres places you can sign up to alpha test stuff. beta testing is even easier to get into. heck you just pay for any number of early access games now.
Why are they doing all of this when they won't even let us do basic things like change the font or point size?
looooool! I love the fact that the other guy is being super nice and polite towards you and you're still here acting like a little child...
Get over it kid, you're not getting into the galaxy beta just because you come on here and complain about steam, it's not gonna win you any special points..
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Iznuts: theres a straw poll going on and its 55-60% wanting the old UI back, 5-7% that actually like the new UI
Obviously... do you not understand how these things work? The people that like the new UI aren't spending their time in the forum, they are off enjoying the new UI, setting collections up, playing games and so on..
The people on the forum right now are the people that are mad, the loud minority, so of course the straw poll will reflect that... I'm surprised that it's only at 55-60%, it should be way higher..
valve isn't bringing the old UI back so you better get over it..
And why do you keep bringing up reddit, who the f cares about reddit, reddit has nothing to do with the steam forums.. I can bring up any random site to prove a point, it's cherry-picking, we're talking about steam and the steam forums here!
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Iznuts: Not all people are hand picked for alphas most arent, you get picked randomly from a large list or signed up before they closed it. I got plenty of invites to try wow alpha content just from being a long time sub at one point.
looool.. He's talking about steam alphas and you're bringing up wow and early access games??
Do you understand the difference between steam and wow?
Let me explain to you how steam alphas work..
You're getting handpicked to take part in them as he said, with a personal message explaining why they chose you specifically, not some copy/paste message that you get for taking part in a wow alpha lol..
An actual group of human being spends time picking you out among several hundred thousand users and takes the time to write you a direct message, so getting picked for one actually means something..

You coming on here lying about a bunch of stuff won't get you into the beta any quicker, as a matter of fact, I bet that it will just hurt your case and if they can they'll probably make sure that someone like you do not get chosen, you are the complete opposite of what anyone is looking for in a beta tester..
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.Ra: New steam ui is better than the older one aside from not being able to take out the whats new section and currently no list view like before.
Way better, way more options and customization!
Post edited October 31, 2019 by FlowBringer88
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Waytelem: I guess that you're talking about the now publicly released updated library UI?
While I have no clue about the dispute itselt. Hasn't the op a point though: while its probably not a very significant amount of users that are complaining, it may stiil be a chance to get a bunch of - at least - "now and then" customers to gog. On the other hand, gog already has enough ^"complainers", maybe there is no need to further strengthen der ranks ;o)
Post edited November 01, 2019 by DerBesserwisser
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Iznuts: "You also gotta understand that Valve can't please everybody and sadly you are in the minority in regards to the new UI"

theres a straw poll going on and its 55-60% wanting the old UI back, 5-7% that actually like the new UI. I've already looked at playnite but it still requires me to still have steam running. I'm guessing i'll be doing a quick web search for a few files to just stop using steam. I have a large dislike of bloated programs that are required to do 1 task and for steam thats launch a game.

Reddits filled with dislike, steam beta forum filled with dislike, web pages all over the place with people disliking the new ui. its not a popular change at all. funny thing in the steam forums most of the people liking the new UI are lvl 0 accounts with private profiles. hmmmmmm

I'd say the people that like the new ui are in the small minority and the people that dislike it are actually the majority.

Not all people are hand picked for alphas most arent, you get picked randomly from a large list or signed up before they closed it. I got plenty of invites to try wow alpha content just from being a long time sub at one point. theres places you can sign up to alpha test stuff. beta testing is even easier to get into. heck you just pay for any number of early access games now.
As with the Top Gear, I (and many other people) like the new Steam Library, but I like GOG more.

GOG Galaxy does still require Steam and the other platforms to be running, mate. There is no way around their DRM, the only platform you won't be needing is the Xbox one because the Windows 10 store is already integrated into Windows 10 and the Xbox app is nothing but another way to access it, just like Galaxy.

And what does having to pay for unfinished games have to do with this? They're inviting people in the order they signed up, and it just so happens that the amount of people signing in the first days was overwhelming.

This is not like, let's say, Halo MCC's betas, which are limited so they can build up hype and a sense of superiority if you do get invited it (not to mention Halo-related youtubers always get in, what a coincidence).

This is a beta that is taking its proper time, and I highly doubt they'd want to keep people out. It's simply a basis of first come, first serve.

Besides, do you really care about how the library looks? Galaxy exists to put together every platform into one single place, that's its whole purpose. Because if we go with looks, Steam's new library does look much more fancy and nice in my eyes and a lot of people.
But the beta is not so you can look at the library, it's so you can give feedback on missing games, errors or crashes.
Post edited November 01, 2019 by FrAnubis
I was part of the beta pretty much from day one and it was primarily negative as far as feedback. Anything brought up was just ignored completely. Loud minority is a cop out really when every thread at steam is negative. That tends to show a trend that people indeed dont like it. Its a horrible resource hog with no options to adjust for it. They took away a lot of popular options. How can you remove list option and small mode? And why would you do that? The guy designing it obvioulsy bought himself a nice alienware with 32 megs of ram and has 2 or 3 steam games. It shows as as the library is not friendly to people who own more than a few hundred games.
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Waytelem: I guess that you're talking about the now publicly released updated library UI?
If that's the case, sorry to burst your bubble but they're not changing it back, they've been working on it for several years and the majority of feedback during alpha and beta (which I was partaking in) was very positive.
The new UI is created from user feedback throughout the years.
People have been asking for the ability to create playlists/collections, the information panels you get for each game, etc., for years, and the only major negative (if you can even call it that) feedback that they got was some UI stuff that some people want to be able to change, like the ability to disable the "what's new" section and stuff like that.

Of course, the forums are flooded with threads the first day it goes public as there will always be people that don't like change, there were a couple of those during the beta as well but nothing major.
Especially when you're changing the UI for something that has been around for 16 years, this is a perfect example of the shock effect.
But in a couple of weeks or so, the majority of those people will have moved on and gotten used to the new UI.
If you look through the new client discussions you can see that it's the same usernames that pop up throughout the "I don't like the new UI, CHANGE IT BACK!!!" threads, so it seems like it's the classic "loud minority" wave coming through right now.

My best advice to you, get to know the new UI and the functions, you can do a lot of cool stuff that the Steam community has been asking for for years and if you can't get used to the UI just wait for the new skins to come out and see if it appeals more to you then.
In the best-case scenario for people that dislike it, they may give you the option to change the UI so that it looks more like the old one, but I highly doubt it.

Also, anyone that just leaves a platform as soon as a change they don't like or agree with is made wouldn't exactly be a reliable or useful beta tester.
The point of the Galaxy 2 beta (and any beta for that matter) is to get valuable feedback, it's not made for people that just want to get Galaxy 2 before everyone else.
It took them years to come up with that turd? That's impressive, genuinely. The game page views are way too cluttered and claustrophobic with useless information, the home page only seems to let you add or remove "shelves" aside from the What's new, which should probably be it's own section, the tiles are absolutely massive with seemingly no customization options, there's 2 sources of games lists on screen at once, which is unnecessary, cover art is broken on a lot of games, it's slow to scroll through, and I've read people claiming it freezes and crashes. Every time I switch between tabs and back to the new library UI everything is real fucky and I have to scroll up and down and move my mouse all over the screen to get things to display properly.

I said it on the LTT forum, but a good UI you don't have to "get used to." It just works and stays out of your way and you don't even recognize that it's there. Galaxy 2.0 for the most part has a pretty decent UI with plenty of options to customize things more to your liking. The new Steam UI has no customization, and while multi-tag sorting and being able to swap between grouped and non grouped in the sidebar is nice, it doesn't make up for everything else being terrible.
Post edited November 02, 2019 by JZStudios
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Iznuts: this is what I have in my steam shortcut now.

\Steam.exe -console -nochatui -nofriendsui -no-browser -noverifyfiles -nobootstrapupdate -skipinitialbootstrap -norepairfiles -overridepackageurl +open steam://open/minigameslist

In an attempt to get a usable no frills game launcher.

I'm at the point where I'd rather have the 4-6 game icons on my desktop or I could even be fancy and just put them all in single folder named GAMES that uses up maybe 5kb of ram to have open. As a fancy side bonus I'm not wasting my cpu and over a gig of ram on a launcher. more power for my game? yes please.
What all does that do? I might have to do that too. I'm not huge on the friends activity and achievement stuff in 2.0, but at least it isn't horrendously obnoxious about it.It'd be nice to be able to customize the game pages.

Before I got access to 2.0, that's what I did. I just dumped all my installed game icons into a games folder and stuck it on my desktop. I even made a few custom icons so I could have large icons. It also has the benefit of allowing you to launch from other platforms.
Oh, and I found out that Steam WILL NOT auto-close after you exit a game, where Epic, uPlay, Origin etc. will all auto-close. But Steam gets a free pass I guess because it's Steam.
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jimrad1: The guy designing it obvioulsy bought himself a nice alienware with 32 megs of ram and has 2 or 3 steam games. It shows as as the library is not friendly to people who own more than a few hundred games.
Woah! A whole 32 megs of RAM!? Damn, I haven't had that much since like... 1998!
Post edited November 02, 2019 by JZStudios
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rkrams: Here's the deal GOG Steam crapped out their UI, so you have this short window before they go back to their old ui.

Every steam thread is filled recommending Gog 2 beta.

The deal though is i still havnt got the invite.

So im sure many have applied like me to 2.0 beta after the ugly clutter ui steam put out today.

So it would be nice if u take this opportunity were steam people are motivated to give a good go of ur ui and process those invites.
IF Steam goes back or allows a "Classic" UI option.

Big IF... So far Valve has yet to respond at all to the overwhelming mass of criticism. I have a feeling they invested too much time into their crappy new UI that they are hoping we will get used to it and stop complaining.

The ball is in your court GOG. Don't let us down. You can do it. I believe in you.
Post edited November 04, 2019 by ryanxj9000
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rkrams: Here's the deal GOG, Steam crapped out their UI, so you have this short window before they go back to their old ui.

Every steam thread is filled recommending Gog 2 beta.

The deal though is i still havnt got the invite.

So im sure many have applied like me to 2.0 beta after the ugly clutter ui steam put out today.

So it would be nice if u take this opportunity were steam people are motivated to give a good go of ur ui and process those invites.
Biggest problem with the new UI is the concumption of resources: cpu and ram, in my case it makes my system unable to play most of the games i have bought thrugh steam/valve over the past 12 years.
So if they could somhow make it less resource hungry, i wouldnt mind using the new ui since you can remove almost all its functions except the "whats new".

So why post this text here... because i hope that you at GOG dont make the same mistake, making a new UI that consumes way to mutch CPU and memory, eyecandy aint everything and graphics and the likes takes alot of resources if you over do it.
Also another flaw in the new steam ui, is that it try to preload all info from your library list, taken from news and comunity feeds, and if there is alot of games in the given library, eg as in my case, then there aint enough resources to store all this info, and still run smothly it clutters and make the system unstable and as a side result also makes it impossible to even load games, since there aint enough free resources to meet the absolute minimum requirements anymore.

As i also typed to steam support, not everyone can afford to buy a state of the art gaming computer every 2-4 years.

So i hope some programmer or developer here at GOG follow this thread and read this post aswell, and take note to NOT make the same mistakes as already done to the steam library.