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Geralt was really dead the whole game!
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cogadh: Geralt was really dead the whole game!
This is what I refer to as a spoiler inoculation. Inundate people with so many lies that they can't tell which is which.
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cogadh: Geralt was really dead the whole game!
The Witcher Sixth Sense Edition?
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cogadh: Geralt was really dead the whole game!
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JudasIscariot: The Witcher Sixth Sense Edition?
What a twist!
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swordsandroses: Can you post a link to this? They are truly desperate if this is true. I liked Mass Effect 1, but everything they created since was utter garbage aimed to win over adolescents with cheap, sleazy and ultimately sad sexual content.
The original Mass Effect had more sexual content than Mass Effect 2.
Turns out Geralt was dreaming all this time.
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JudasIscariot: The Witcher Sixth Sense Edition?
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cogadh: What a twist!
Maybe we'll also find out that Geralt is actually...Geraltina! O.O
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swordsandroses: Can you post a link to this? They are truly desperate if this is true. I liked Mass Effect 1, but everything they created since was utter garbage aimed to win over adolescents with cheap, sleazy and ultimately sad sexual content.
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: The original Mass Effect had more sexual content than Mass Effect 2.
I swear, acknowledging that people have sex is enough to prompt bitching about "blah, blah, blah... graphic" and "blah, blah, blah... sleazy". Do people who complain about this stuff ever read literature? Do they watch films?

INCOMING SLANG AND PROFANITY (you have been warned):


People fuck. Sometimes they do so without shutting the curtains. Sometimes they fuck when it's not dark.

Sex is as prominent as death in our psyches, get over it.
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GameRager: Is it wrong if I get turned on bny some of those?
Some people will say yes. Those people are mean. :(
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: The original Mass Effect had more sexual content than Mass Effect 2.
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orcishgamer: I swear, acknowledging that people have sex is enough to prompt bitching about "blah, blah, blah... graphic" and "blah, blah, blah... sleazy". Do people who complain about this stuff ever read literature? Do they watch films?

INCOMING SLANG AND PROFANITY (you have been warned):


People fuck. Sometimes they do so without shutting the curtains. Sometimes they fuck when it's not dark.

Sex is as prominent as death in our psyches, get over it.
I'm afraid you completely missed my point.
Sex and romance is certainly most welcome in video games, especially if we want to reach same status as movies and literature in entertainment.
But, the style of presentation is what determines if sexual content is immature, degrading and ultimately working against us, like Bioware is. I mean, in DA2, Isabela character alone pushed us back 10 years.
What we need is believable sexual encounters and mature romance stuff, something I've partially seen in Witcher 1 with Shani and Triss, and I certainly hope that gets even better in Witcher 2.
Baldur's Gate 2 is also a very good example where your relationships with NPCs was almost all talking and the actual act of sex was a second of dark screen. But it was far more mature, deeper and believable than anything DA and ME games ever offered.
For me, Jaheira and Viconia are infinitely times more developed and believable characters, because they are presented as such. You only get to see their faces and by talking you get to know their personality.
Relationships and sex between persons is not all about seeing boobs on the screen. It is a complicated process involving chemistry, talking, flirting, friendship, rivalry... It can be a chase, it can be a cheap thrill, but it can also be a deep romance and love.
And that is the direction we need to push.
That is what gives games credibility it is not just stuff for little kids and adolescents.
Post edited May 13, 2011 by swordsandroses
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swordsandroses: That is what gives games credibility it is not just stuff for little kids and adolescents.
Sooooo, those Tjobs I mentioned earlier are out of the picture. : \
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JudasIscariot: Maybe we'll also find out that Geralt is actually...Geraltina! O.O
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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JudasIscariot: Maybe we'll also find out that Geralt is actually...Geraltina! O.O
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KneeTheCap: NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
There's a mod for that, I'm sure.

Meaningless posts: 3 for 3
SPOILER:- the pirates who cracked the game and downloaded it say the terminator makes a cameo in the game /END OF SPOILER
hmm i wonder which game they cracked...
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swordsandroses: That is what gives games credibility it is not just stuff for little kids and adolescents.
Well, fwiw, I find the types of portrayals you're speaking about very important as well and we could probably have a long and interesting debate about examples that have contributed a lot to culture (I think the wife feeding off of Dracula's vein in his chest in Braum Stoker's novel very sexually charged given the era and culture of that time).

Still, puerile stuff can be valuable too, and is part of us. Though I agree, DA2 and Isabella was crap, but then again, nearly the entire story as it's been related to be can only be described as trite (and that's probably being too kind).
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swordsandroses: Relationships and sex between persons is not all about seeing boobs on the screen. It is a complicated process involving chemistry, talking, flirting, friendship, rivalry... It can be a chase, it can be a cheap thrill, but it can also be a deep romance and love.
Sometimes, sure, sometimes a guy just bangs a stripper. That's life too and there's no sense hiding from the animalistic side of sex, it's not always deep and meaningful. I mean Black Swan was critically praised, but the sex scene in it was raw and very base.