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Posted October 03, 2013
The galaxy is your oyster.

Smugglers V, a turn-based Sci-Fi epic where you fight, trade, and pirate your way to the top of galactic elite, is available on GOG.com, for only $9.99.

There is a whole genre of games dedicated to a single idea: you're a spacecraft pilot climbing the ladder of power and fame through trading, combat, prospecting, freighting, and possibly piracy. The unsurpassed freedom and feeling that your destiny is your own to shape, made this single idea one of the most prolific motifs in PC gaming. Many of space-sims enjoy cult following and games of this genre developed nowadays sometimes reach incredible scale and complexity. Most of them, though, involve a lot of action and put reflexes before tactics and planning. This one is different. It's played in turns.

Smugglers V is what you get when a dedicated creator polishes and improves every aspect of his game for years. Smugglers is not a series in the common understanding of the word. You don't need to play Smugglers 1-4 to enjoy the fifth one to full extent. It's still pretty much the same game, that evolves with each installment, gaining more and more gameplay depth, enriching the dynamic universe presented, and offering new options. In the latest version we offer you here, the phenomenal turn-based space-sim offers 30+ different spacecrafts, 100+ pilot skills and traits, 6 different career choices, and 4 factions to pledge allegiance to at your whim. The turn-based mechanics make this title extremely addictive, as the "one more turn" syndrome can hold you at the helm to the wee hours of the morning.

Pilot, forge your fortune and make your own destiny in a galaxy full of war, unrest, villany, and opportunity in Smugglers V, for only $9.99 on GOG.com.
Posted October 08, 2013
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Erich_Zann: Yeah, right. Keep telling yourself that. Won't make it true though.
I agree with what he said but I'm curious as what argument(s) you would have to prove otherwise? Remember that in his paragraph the operative word is classics, not old. ;)
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Posted October 08, 2013
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WoodMan: I didn't read every one of the posts in this discussion so sorry if someone already pointed this out, but of course the amount of old games released is going to decline over time, because there are only so many old games worth releasing! Most of the classics still worth playing/buying are already here!
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Erich_Zann: Yeah, right. Keep telling yourself that. Won't make it true though.
Of course as time does go on, old games will never stop coming, because newer games will become old.

But at launch GoG had lets say 30 years of classic games to draw upon, once they have released all the classics ( that they secure permission to) from that era they have only the option to either a) release average/poor games from that era for the sake of it or b) release newer games as they get old and become classics.

The latter would be my preference, I like GOOD old games, not any old games :-D
Post edited October 08, 2013 by WoodMan
Posted October 08, 2013
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Erich_Zann: Yeah, right. Keep telling yourself that. Won't make it true though.
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Nirth: I agree with what he said but I'm curious as what argument(s) you would have to prove otherwise? Remember that in his paragraph the operative word is classics, not old. ;)
Simple. "Most of the classics still worth playing/buying are already here!" is a factually wrong sentence.

Just off the top of my head I can tell you we're missing almost the whole SSI catalog (all the Gold Box, Entomorph, Phantasie series, most of the -General series...), SSG three Warlords games, lion's share of Microprose catalog (Secret Weapons..., Challenge of the Five Realms, Railroad Tycoon, Civilization, Bloodnet, The Legacy, Rex Nebular, XCom/UFO series...), LucasArts, most of the Even Horizon/Dreamforge catalog, Bureau 13, the Star Trek adventure games, the true Prince of Persia games, the cream of the Psygnosis catalog (even if some of their best weren't on PC), some of Silmarils classics are still missing...
In half an hour I could probably whip out a list of missing worthy games as big as the current selection of pre-1995 games. Not even touching the Amiga catalog.

Some, or maybe even most of them would probably be a nightmare to get due to legal limbo or licensing or what have you, but the point is that the statement "most of the worthy classics are already here" is just plain, old school unadulterated bullshit.
Post edited October 08, 2013 by Erich_Zann
Posted October 08, 2013
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Zeewolf: As for the rest, I think that the year-on-year-analysis tends to be not that interesting. The reason people have been complaining isn't necessarily that GOG has released fewer classics this year than some other year. It's that, as your statistics shows pretty well, there is a trend here that they are not comfortable with.
Meaning, they are not complaining about the lack of classic releases, but that there are more indie games released than before?

In other words, the moaners want to deny other GOG users the possibility to buy indie games from GOG? Many of these moaners seem to be the people who buy those same indie games, that they so loudly complain about, on Steam (or Steam key resellers). Especially those moaners should just shut the feck up.
Post edited October 08, 2013 by timppu
Posted October 08, 2013
When gog.com stops to concentrate on their main business old games, then they will certainly loose. Big shops like steam, gamersgate, desura, amazon and others get more and more classic games in playable state so there is strong competition beside pirate sites or abandonware sites. Without good support and extra goodies there is no incentive to support gog.com.

I especially dislike preorders or alphas. The new ripp-off tactic indie developers use to scam honest customers. Many games never deliver. So please do not allow preorders or alpha state releases here. Some of the latest gog.com releases were not the best too. Eador i am looking at you. There should be more quality control from the shops side. As shop owner it is my responsibility what i sell. Selling broken products will eventually cause the downfall of the shop and the producer/developer.

The second wave goodies for electronic arts games was super. That is excellent extra content and a good way to get satisfied customers.

Have a nice day.
Posted October 09, 2013
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timppu: Especially those moaners should just shut the feck up.
Why so rude? Me and JMitch had a quite civil discussion. And the numbers DO indicate that GOG are releasing fewer classics than before, so the complaints are not about the amount of indie releases but the amount of classic releases.
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