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anomaly: And it is true that for most gaming mice now 2000 DPI is low, if not already dropped off the bottom end, so yes it is an indication of age simply because the technology has moved on.
But that's my point: DPI is not an indication that techonology evolved or anything. As a matter of fact, there are MANY sensors out there that support higher DPIs which are horrible, much worse than reliable sensors made for lower DPIs. These sensors for low DPIs (by low i mean anything lower than 3500 DPI) are still being made and there are high-end gaming mouses that do not have high DPIs (some Roccats, for example). Mouses with low DPIs are not "old" or anything, they're just different to the ones with higher DPIs.
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anomaly: And it is true that for most gaming mice now 2000 DPI is low, if not already dropped off the bottom end, so yes it is an indication of age simply because the technology has moved on.
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Neobr10: But that's my point: DPI is not an indication that techonology evolved or anything. As a matter of fact, there are MANY sensors out there that support higher DPIs which are horrible, much worse than reliable sensors made for lower DPIs. These sensors for low DPIs (by low i mean anything lower than 3500 DPI) are still being made and there are high-end gaming mouses that do not have high DPIs (some Roccats, for example). Mouses with low DPIs are not "old" or anything, they're just different to the ones with higher DPIs.
When I bought my mouse 2000 DPI was a mid to high value, because that was what was possible at the time. 6400, for example, did not exist. It wasn't there then, it is here now. That is techonlogical evolution. Technology changes and opens new numbers for us to argue over, that was all my point was. However, I think we are talking past each other, and this is a moot point.

Is DPI an indication of better? No, I accept that it isn't and I take your point here. However, please accept - I'm not looking to change my mouse because of the DPI.

What I really want are more than two thumb buttons and need something that is big enough to fit my hand. I also like corded mice, but that is just personal preference. There's plenty of mice out there that fit these criteria but frankly, I just don't like the look of. Hence the discussion on the RAT 7 MMO, because I like it.

However, my first question still stands. Has anyone used this mouse for games that aren't MMO's? and if so, how did it fare? I will open this discussion to the Func MS3-r2 as well.
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grviper: I have a Saitek Cyborg R.A.T. 7.
The pickiest laser I've ever experienced. It can't work on even slightly shiny mats, or desks, and the slightest dirt kills it.
I've read up more on this since you posted it, and have found that while more people are happy with the RAT 7 and 7 MMO than are unhappy, there is still a significant % who have the very issue you are talking about. It's an expensive mouse for such a fundamental error. However, thank you for bringing it to my attention. This is potentially a game killer for me.

I do want a larger mouse, or at least a mouse that can be made larger, and so my search continues.
Sigh.
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anomaly: When I bought my mouse 2000 DPI was a mid to high value, because that was what was possible at the time. 6400, for example, did not exist. It wasn't there then, it is here now. That is techonlogical evolution. Technology changes and opens new numbers for us to argue over, that was all my point was.
Marketing has evolved, not technology, the sensors themselves haven't evolved that much (keep in mind that the companies that make mouses do not make the sensors themselves, all the sensors come from just a few companies, same goes for the switch). It's just like those TVs with "480Hz", "240Hz" or "120Hz". It's a marketing gimmick, TVs don't have such high refresh rates, but "big numbers sell". Remember the 64bit Atari Jaguar and its famous slogan "do the math"?

What i want to say is that a mouse with high DPI is not more advanced than one with low DPI, they're just different. Some people like high DPI, other don't. This is why we have high-end mouses being produced right now with relatively low DPI (3200, for example). If low DPI were a thing of the past, we wouldn't have big companies still making mouses that way. And we do. Heck, Steelseries itself admited that DPI means nothing, and this is coming from a company that makes some mouses with insanely high DPIs. According to them, 90% of the professional players don't use more than 1600 DPI.

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anomaly: What I really want are more than two thumb buttons and need something that is big enough to fit my hand. I also like corded mice, but that is just personal preference. There's plenty of mice out there that fit these criteria but frankly, I just don't like the look of. Hence the discussion on the RAT 7 MMO, because I like it.
Exactly. Mouses are all about personal preference. Of course there are horrible mouses out there, but there are still many good options to choose from and it all depends on what you want. For example, i use a fingertip/claw hybrid grip, a big mouse would be useless for me.
Post edited May 02, 2014 by Neobr10