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awalterj: In any case, I don't think that the government should have any say in reproductive strategy. In essence, everyone has a biased opinion about the whole thing because well, we are all already alive so we can't be aborted anymore (tadaa!), easy for us to talk about these things. Can't speak for anyone else but I'd rather be unborn than unwanted, as harsh as that sounds. Some people survive and thrive despite having been unwanted as a child but if one has had a largely happy and safe childhood, the very idea of being an unwanted child is utterly inconceivable.
Without going into the obvious state sanctioned policies you should know, possibly, or just the sheer poverty or valuation type of topics that take place in others - may I ask, are you the only child, then? No sister or brother to mourn, should they have been not in your life as you know it now?
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TStael: Without going into the obvious state sanctioned policies you should know, possibly, or just the sheer poverty or valuation type of topics that take place in others - may I ask, are you the only child, then? No sister or brother to mourn, should they have been not in your life as you know it now?
I have an older brother and a younger sister, this was probably planned by the Universe so I could be the terrible sandwich child, something like that. What about yourself, 1st born leader of the pack?
Not sure if I can answer the second question, it seems impossible: I mean, if one or both of my siblings didn't exists how would I know what I would have missed out on? And if I myself wouldn't exist, how could anyone be able to miss me? Can you miss something you don't know or someone you've never known or is that just intrinsic/hypothetical longing?

(though one thing is for sure, certain DOS games I would never have gotten to work if my brother didn't exist who helped me write the boot discs)
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awalterj: Can you miss something you don't know or someone you've never known or is that just intrinsic/hypothetical longing?

(though one thing is for sure, certain DOS games I would never have gotten to work if my brother didn't exist who helped me write the boot discs)
Possibly not, depending if you are the second son or the elder daughter, and hence had been eliminated or permitted to exist depending on the circumstances.

But had your parents aborted your younger sister, you would not be you, plus you would probably know anyhow as people suck in keeping certain kind of secrets.

You might have been missed if you were a wanted child by your parents, or your elder bother anyway. We do often enough regret results or non-results of our decisions, and this I would equate with missing - in an idealized form.
The title of this thread caught my eye because I just finished playing Gray Matter today and wound up being terribly disappointed in the game. One of the many things I disliked about the game was precisely because I thought there was implicit sexism in it. Jane Jensen develops a strong lead female character in Sam and posits a compelling story arc for her and then in the third chapter completely abandons it for a story dominated by a grieving bachelor and what turns out (spoiler warning) a besotted college college kid. It still stuns me how a story about an abandoned foster child making her way in the world as an independent woman (a magician no less!) got derailed into a trite story about a love lorn widower and the female co-ed obsessed with him.

I don't know what was in the OP since it has been edited but if someone is making the claim that Jane Jensen is sexist it doesn't surprise me, I honestly felt that Gray Matter was precisely the wrong way to tell a story about women because at the end of the day the game really isn't about women in it at all. It's about the man.
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TStael: But had your parents aborted your younger sister, you would not be you, plus you would probably know anyhow as people suck in keeping certain kind of secrets.

You might have been missed if you were a wanted child by your parents, or your elder bother anyway. We do often enough regret results or non-results of our decisions, and this I would equate with missing - in an idealized form.
Had I been aborted, my parents wouldn't miss me but a hypothetical idea of what I could have been had I existed, and that's not me at all.
But it's true that we are the sum of our experiences. Without my younger sister, I would have never had a chance to play "My Little Pony" (I remember one of those could glow in the dark, or all of them, can't remember exactly) so now that that's taken care of I don't have to be part of the 'Bronie' movement.
And yes, we sometimes feel nostalgia for the hypothetical. We used to live in the US for a couple years when I was little and I sometimes wondered how things would have been had we not moved back to Switzerland but it is as you say, you would not be you without the experiences you have made.
Besides, skiing is better here anyway, that's for sure. It's also unaffordably expensive, so maybe I want to be back in the US now :D But if I was there, I wouldn't know that if I was here i wouldn't be able to afford it and I would miss the snow... do you see where I'm going with this...? Too many variables in life, you can get lost in a non escapable caleidoscopic fractal labyrinth and there's little use in that, to anyone. Unless you decide to become a philosophy professor and make a living trying to help society find a balance between practicality and ethics without sacrificing either.

In the meantime, a UFO with some aliens inside flies by: "Hey look Ghork-Ugurk, they have ethics now, ain't that cute!"
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StingingVelvet: Woman on woman misogyny is a thing. It happens. It's interesting when someone in a particular social group has opinions or creates art that many would feel is detrimental to that social group.

Ignore pages 1 and 2.

Discuss.
At the very least, I could imagine a very manish lesbian woman being misogynystic to a degree.

I think that because most individuals in a gender date the other gender, some amount of gender blaming becomes hard to avoid when things don't go well with their relationship(s).

Similarly, a woman who grew up around other women who are bad (ie, bad mother and sisters) might develop a more permanent low opinion of their own gender.

While the generic individual-independant concept of gender is appealing, our opinion of gender is very much shaped by the sample of individuals we've interacted with that belong to that gender.

A similar thing occurs with ethnicity, religion, linguistic roots, dress code and the multiple other ways we classify an individual in our minds.

The smartest among us will often realize that this classification based on their limited experience is happening in their brain and hold that judgment in check to some degree (in essence, subjugate automated instinctual thought processes to reason), but nobody does it all the time.

We are all intrinsically prejudicial, but this is something we can overcome to a large degree by understanding the limitations of our thought processes and interacting with a variety of people.
Post edited May 11, 2014 by Magnitus
Dr Freud would maybe ask if Jane Jansen is a lesbian with dom' and sadist tendencies. Thus making RPS a bunch of intolerant bigots ?
Post edited May 11, 2014 by Narakir
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Narakir: Dr Freud would maybe ask if Jane Jansen is a lesbian with dom' and sadist tendencies. Thus making RPS a bunch of intolerant bigots ?
Dr. Freud screwed us all, as western society, with his "truths" hidden under a scientific guise. We were better off with Kafka and Vian.