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F4LL0UT: a) it's about official releases, not how the games are run
b) OP actually talked about emulation
c) and "half of them" is not all, so it's still ridiculous to say "chances are zero"
Perhaps not zero, but except for the most popular-of-the-popular there's very little chance some big company is going to dig up the source-code of an old Playstation game (if it even still exists), put together a team and port it to PC.

Also, most Japanese companies that have these old console games are anti-PC, hell Square ported most of the old Final Fantasy games, but not to PC but to iOS. If they don't care about PC gaming why should we/GOG care about them?

And lastly, GOG is a PC-gaming website, emulated consoles games would be inappropriate in my view.
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F4LL0UT: a) it's about official releases, not how the games are run
b) OP actually talked about emulation
c) and "half of them" is not all, so it's still ridiculous to say "chances are zero"
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Crosmando: Perhaps not zero, but except for the most popular-of-the-popular there's very little chance some big company is going to dig up the source-code of an old Playstation game (if it even still exists), put together a team and port it to PC.

Also, most Japanese companies that have these old console games are anti-PC, hell Square ported most of the old Final Fantasy games, but not to PC but to iOS. If they don't care about PC gaming why should we/GOG care about them?

And lastly, GOG is a PC-gaming website, emulated consoles games would be inappropriate in my view.
Because "we" care about games and gaming :)
I'd love to have genuine (legal) ports of all 2D Castlevania games. And all 2D Metroids too. And Shinobi. Illusions of Gaia would be nice too. And a graphically enhanced version of Gargoyle's Quest from the original Gameboy!
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amok: Because "we" care about games and gaming :)
Your (mostly Japanese) console game companies do not care about gaming, especially PC gaming, they care about money. For evidence of this see the myriad of craptastic PC ports of old console games. You really want them here, given how terrible products they are? For example take the ports of Silent Hill 2 and 3. Silent Hill 2 crashes in outdoor areas depending on the type of CPU your computer uses, besides the terrible graphical optimization the game is very difficult to play with a keyboard, and if you try to play with a gamepad well the game for some reason doesn't accept some newer gamepads, or if it does it's very hard to assign controls. Oh and Silent Hill 3, which has the lovely feature of graphical tearing when running, but wait THERE'S NO VSYNC, AND YOU CAN'T EVEN FORCE VSYNC WITH YOUR VIDEO CARD because the game apparently uses OpenGL and not DirectX.

And Silent Hill 2/3 are only mild cases of bad console ports.
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Crosmando: Perhaps not zero, but except for the most popular-of-the-popular there's very little chance some big company is going to dig up the source-code of an old Playstation game (if it even still exists), put together a team and port it to PC.
Don't underestimate the power of reverse engineering. Bluepoint Games, the guys who brought us the great HD ports of God of War, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus and the Metal Gear Solid HD collection actually worked with the compiled versions of the games.

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Crosmando: Also, most Japanese companies that have these old console games are anti-PC, hell Square ported most of the old Final Fantasy games, but not to PC but to iOS. If they don't care about PC gaming why should we/GOG care about them?
True but a company's attitude can change. Heck, GOG's success was largely based on convincing the right people to make certain decisions in the first place. Of course re-releasing a game is something different than convincing a company to create a port and beyond the scope of GOG's work but it's not an impossible thing to happen.

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Crosmando: And lastly, GOG is a PC-gaming website, emulated consoles games would be inappropriate in my view.
GOG already provides lots of games that originated on other platforms (and not only home computers) and people don't seem to mind. Guilty Gear, Street Fighter, Expendable, Raiden Legacy, Alan Wake, Earthworm Jim and Pandemonium to name a few and not counting games that were originally developed as multi-platform titles (which even in their PC versions are closer to being console games than "real" PC games). Also GOG already largely relies on emulators like DOSBox and ScummVM (also: so are you talking about ports or emulators? :P). So I don't see no problem here. And the "good old" is more important to me and pretty much anyone else than "PC" on GOG. :P
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amok: Because "we" care about games and gaming :)
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Crosmando: Your (mostly Japanese) console game companies do not care about gaming, especially PC gaming, they care about money. For evidence of this see the myriad of craptastic PC ports of old console games. You really want them here, given how terrible products they are? For example take the ports of Silent Hill 2 and 3. Silent Hill 2 crashes in outdoor areas depending on the type of CPU your computer uses, besides the terrible graphical optimization the game is very difficult to play with a keyboard, and if you try to play with a gamepad well the game for some reason doesn't accept some newer gamepads, or if it does it's very hard to assign controls. Oh and Silent Hill 3, which has the lovely feature of graphical tearing when running, but wait THERE'S NO VSYNC, AND YOU CAN'T EVEN FORCE VSYNC WITH YOUR VIDEO CARD because the game apparently uses OpenGL and not DirectX.

And Silent Hill 2/3 are only mild cases of bad console ports.
They care a lot about gaming, but not PC gaming in particular. If you want to narrow yourself, it is your own problem, *shrug*. Personally I care about gaming and games, not about PC or not.
F4LL0UT so you wouldn't have a problem with GOG releasing a PS1/2 game in raw ISO form bundled with ePSXe or PCSX2 and an autorun shortcut (like they do with DOSBox)?
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Crosmando: And lastly, GOG is a PC-gaming website, emulated consoles games would be inappropriate in my view.
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F4LL0UT: GOG already provides lots of games that originated on other platforms (and not only home computers) and people don't seem to mind. Guilty Gear, Street Fighter, Expendable, Raiden Legacy, Alan Wake, Earthworm Jim and Pandemonium to name a few and not counting games that were originally developed as multi-platform titles (which even in their PC versions are closer to being console games than "real" PC games). Also GOG already largely relies on emulators like DOSBox and ScummVM (also: so are you talking about ports or emulators? :P). So I don't see no problem here. And the "good old" is more important to me and pretty much anyone else than "PC" on GOG. :P
Not to mention MAC :)
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Crosmando: F4LL0UT so you wouldn't have a problem with GOG releasing a PS1/2 game in raw ISO form bundled with ePSXe or PCSX2 and an autorun shortcut (like they do with DOSBox)?
That would be brilliant. There are many PS1/2 games that would be instabuy for me if it was sold like this. And more Megadrive games. And SNES/N64 games. And CD32. And....
Post edited July 23, 2013 by amok
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amok: Not to mention MAC :)
OSX, DOS and Windows are operating systems for personal computers. Consoles are not personal computers.
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Crosmando: F4LL0UT so you wouldn't have a problem with GOG releasing a PS1/2 game in raw ISO form bundled with ePSXe or PCSX2 and an autorun shortcut (like they do with DOSBox)?
1. No I wouldn't since, you said it yourself, they already do that kind of thing. I also enjoy those emulated console collections released by Konami, Sega and Capcom on different newer systems.
2. You didn't read what I said about reverse engineering, did you. Bluepoint has been able to perfectly *port* some of the best looking and technologically most advanced games of the PS2 to the PS3 working with the compiled versions. If they can do that I don't think that it's impossible to port PSX games to PC in a similar manner, especially considering how much the internet community has achieved in terms of emulation by reverse engineering (and that's people who did NOT cooperate with the developers and manufacturers of the original hardware and software). So even if the source codes are lost it is possible to create real PC ports.
Post edited July 23, 2013 by F4LL0UT
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amok: Not to mention MAC :)
That would be brilliant. There are many PS1/2 games that would be instabuy for me if it was sold like this. And more Megadrive games. And SNES/N64 games. And CD32. And....
That is retarded. The control schemes are not designed for keyboard, not to mention the ridiculously high system requirements and performance issues with emulating Playstation games. Rebinding keyboard controls for a Dualshock controller would make the game very difficult to play.

You fail to realize that Sony already sell PS1 and 2 games on PSN which run in a which more smooth native emulation with access to the game's code, if you want to play those games get a PS3. You'd only be shortchanging PC gamers by putting horribly clunky ISO emulation abominations on GOG which control like a drunk horse and need a supercomputer to run.
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amok: Not to mention MAC :)
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Crosmando: OSX, DOS and Windows are operating systems for personal computers. Consoles are not personal computers.
It is a completely different discussion, but it all depends on what definition you use for a PC. The main difference is that one is closed system with fixed specs, while the other is open with flexible specs. .
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amok: Not to mention MAC :)
That would be brilliant. There are many PS1/2 games that would be instabuy for me if it was sold like this. And more Megadrive games. And SNES/N64 games. And CD32. And....
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Crosmando: That is retarded.
*sigh* I read so far, then I stoped reading.
Well, i would love to see every game ported to the PC.
The old RPG's for the SNES that would blow my mind (but it won't happen).
Its real sad that the companies don't realize that they could make money with
their old games...and that it can be done well everyone knows about were to get
them.
Post edited July 23, 2013 by Schnuff