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Welcome back Quad, and just in time I would say....fancy letting a Masters Degree get in the way of a good Mafia game!! ;o)

I've seen absolutely nothing to change my views from my last post, in fact I'm seeing even further evidence for Joe to be Mafia.

Vote JoeSapphire

@Baz - can I ask why the vote for Violator? Another baiting post?
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Robbeasy: @Baz - can I ask why the vote for Violator? Another baiting post?
Somewhat, even though the strategy can't really work now that it's well established how it was supposed to work. The real reason is that I'm actually starting to think Violator is the man we are looking for. But quite frankly, I'm stumped. As I said earlier, you people should have killed Joe ages ago; I just can't make up my mind about him and it's driving me up the wall.
Gazing at my chart, I have noticed that four times throughout this day, someone was at L-2.

First, QuadrAlien (voted by ViolatorX and Joe).
Second, Joe (voted by Rob and me).
Third, me (voted by Rob and Joe).
Fourth, nmillar (voted by ViolatorX and QuadrAlien).

What do I deduce from this? That our mafia is shy, and forgets that there is no victory without risk. And you know what? There is no victory without risk for town, either.

Looking at this pattern, and probability in general, I reckon it's fairly likely one of me-Rob-Joe is scum. I know I'm not (Town Vanilla, in case you want to ask), and I find Rob relatively trustworthy this time.

Screw this.

How about a claim, Joe?

unvote
vote JoeSapphire
If it will clear my name.

I am Vanilla Townie.

Which means that we have four townsmembers claimed. Are we forced to assume that those leftover are the mafia we're searching for?
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JoeSapphire: Which means that we have four townsmembers claimed. Are we forced to assume that those leftover are the mafia we're searching for?
Remind me, who's the fourth one? There's Quad, me, you and who else?

It would be neat, though, wouldn't it?
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JoeSapphire: lynchy the innocent murderer
Exactly the reason I've chosen not to join any of the bandwagons that have been forming, unlike some people ... working full-time for the last 3 weeks obviously doesn't help my post count either!

Looks like everyone's going to claim Vanilla Town now, doesn't it? I'd be inclined to vote JoeSapphire if nobody presents a reason why I shouldn't.
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nmillar: Looks like everyone's going to claim Vanilla Town now, doesn't it? I'd be inclined to vote JoeSapphire if nobody presents a reason why I shouldn't.
Quite frankly, I don't have a reason why you shouldn't. I see Joe, yourself and Violator as candidates ripe for lynching, and don't really have a preference. At this stage, I have run out of all other ideas.

With my luck, the mafia actually are Rob and QuadrAlien.
Well guys, here's something! We were given no flavour in our role PMs which has made claiming kind of pointless so far, but maybe not!
Does everybody's message have their role written as "town vanila"? Exactly like that, With only one L? - Given Vitek's penchance for copy and pasting having already caused minor problems in the game I think it probably would be.

Well if it is then surely we can use that to backup our claims?
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JoeSapphire: Well if it is then surely we can use that to backup our claims?
No, in my role PM, it is not spelt that way. You have just drawn quite a bit of suspicion to yourself, dear sir. My vote stands.
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bazilisek: No, in my role PM, it is not spelt that way. You have just drawn quite a bit of suspicion to yourself, dear sir. My vote stands.
You're being too cautious! How is it spelled then?
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JoeSapphire: You're being too cautious! How is it spelled then?
Ooh, a double bluff?

It does not say "town vanilla", let's put it that way.
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bazilisek: Ooh, a double bluff?

It does not say "town vanilla", let's put it that way.
If I AM mafia, you will spell it and I will say "yes it's spelled like that on mine too", all the towns will agree with you and no-one will believe me because I didn't claim until after you did.

I was hoping that a mafia would be bold enough to try "yes! mine is spelled town vanila!" And that would damn them. But they're too clever or you're too eager.
At the moment I can't tell if you're a bright and bold mafia player, or if you're cautious town. But you've come this far now and we can't turn away from this standoff so just tell us how we towns write town!
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JoeSapphire: If I AM mafia, you will spell it and I will say "yes it's spelled like that on mine too", all the towns will agree with you and no-one will believe me because I didn't claim until after you did.
If you are mafia and I am town, yes. There are way too much ifs.
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JoeSapphire: I was hoping that a mafia would be bold enough to try "yes! mine is spelled town vanila!" And that would damn them. But they're too clever or you're too eager.
I did consider that, actually. That's why I waited several hours to react. But no one else wanted to bite and frankly, I'm tired of waiting.
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JoeSapphire: At the moment I can't tell if you're a bright and bold mafia player, or if you're cautious town. But you've come this far now and we can't turn away from this standoff so just tell us how we towns write town!
No, I won't. This is not a duel. I want the others to chime in as well. It's a nice experiment you've set up here, but at its heart, it's a massive WIFOM, as usual.
WIFOM?

There isn't time for anyone else to chime in. Only one of us can be saved. Either you say it or I will: In my next post I am revealing all.

I can't let you get away with being another ambiguity. If you are town then claim it before it's too late.
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JoeSapphire: WIFOM?
Sorry. Wine in Front of Me.
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JoeSapphire: There isn't time for anyone else to chime in. Only one of us can be saved. Either you say it or I will: In my next post I am revealing all.
Oh, I'll keep my eyes closed, then.
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JoeSapphire: I can't let you get away with being another ambiguity. If you are town then claim it before it's too late.
But this really is not a duel. This is not about confirming my town status to you or vice versa. Or at least, it should not be. There are other players here as well, and if you really are town, they will be/are laughing their arses off at this.

Calm down and think this through, please. I know what you are doing, or at least I think I do, and I know what I am doing.