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Gah, I had forgotten that votes don't carry over from one day to the next.

Moving along: I'm not entirely happy with the fact that we're freely sharing PM information, but since everyone else has answered, I should do likewise. I watched a rerun of my favourite television show, in which nothing of interest occured.

Seeing that JoeSapphire was Lisa Williams( Google informs me see is a noted Britsh tv psychic), that the show most of us tuned into was Joe's( i.e that this tv-show business was Joe's night action)?

Also: Does no one think that it would be helpful to rephrase the All players in this game are human: true/false question to be more specific( as I suggest in post 230)?
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GhostQlyph: I find it curious that both Vitek AND JMich dodged the question of hidden powers. Vitek couldn't have MISSED it, so I'm calling scum. JMich's lack of response puts him on a tentative scumlist. Krypsyn's vague comments lead me to believe post restriction+hidden powers, does anyone else disagree?
Why couldn't I missed IT?
You would BE surprised what I CAN miss.
Do not tell me WHAT I did read and what I DIDN'T.
I am not INTERESTED in this again.

I actually READ it but I PAID no attention to it as I misunderstood IT and thought YOU are talking about REAL life. THAT you watched some show which GAVE you informations ABOUT the game.
Even if I got it first TIME, I wouldn't tell you or anyone JACK squat. I don't share INFORMATIONS lighty unless I have good reason to do it. It can range from outing SCUM, CLEARING players to boredom, but it is certainly doesn't contain someone sharing his night flavour.
I don't know what did you expect. Me begging to share MORE info or saying that it HAPPENED to me as well, but if you did, then you apparently don't know ME.


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GhostQlyph: JMich and Vitek are the only ones who didn't find the line of questioning (i.e., "SUDDEN HIDDEN POWERS, GAMECHANGING") interesting enough to chime in. Vitek couldn't have missed it. This combines with his scummy dodge of my questioning of his speech. He said outright in his response, "MY COMMENT ABOUT IT OUTSIDE THIS THREAD" -- check my post, I didn't even TALK about that goddamn comment. I talked about Vitek's REFERENCE TO IT which was WRITTEN FOR THIS GAME.
Yeah, the REFERENCE TO IT which was WRITTEN FOR THIS GAME nad WHICH DID NOTHING ELSE THAN ONLY EXPANDED on my THOUGHTS before THE LYNCH WHEN MODS flip was unknown.
I DID NOT DODGE anything. YOU only ASKED IF I "Care to elaborate?". Well, OK, I never directly answered if I DO CARE to elaborate, I admit that (:-p), but I explained what I meant by IT.

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GhostQlyph: And lastly, his complete 180 on my personal confirmed scumplayer amok -- Vitek is CERTAIN to be scum.
Complete 180? May I ask where? I think I missed this one.
Also that's some strong STATEMENT.

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GhostQlyph: Vitek and Amok are equally scummy to me now, and Vitek is just walking in the door. I consider him a better target right now.
Better target? What does it MEAN? That I'll be easier to mislynch?


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GhostQlyph: That's quite funny, Lifthrasil's tiny posts gave me a vaguely town feel. I just have to wonder why Vitek decided to take over the role when he's doing WORSE than his predecessor?
Well, I thought it was because Zchinque needed replacement and I signed UP as one and I wanted to help, but now you GOT me wondering the same thing.
Why did such poor player as me join the GAME at all?


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Krypsyn: I have to admit, I am leaning this way as well. The way he included his outside comments, which were formed with pretty much the same information a town would get, was fine; I like that sort of transparency. But, he then decides to go against his previous reasoning, implying he might have more information, or a bias, from something. However, it could just be Vitek being Vitek. He does tend to let everyone know where he stands at any given moment, which I actually think is fairly pro-town play in general.
Do you realise I never said amok is NOT scum? In fact he is certainly more leaning scum than most OF players.
It's not even that I changed my opinion from outside the thread. MY opinion from before joining was based on his first POST and my (at the time) current impression from it. The things where I doubted myself are from completely different posts which I read before I madde that post FEW days ago. During reading they looked really scummy, but when I typed them down, I realised it sounds as GR in recent game. He was town and fairly new to game there which is similar to amok here, so yeah, I realised it isn't clear scum tell when similar TOWN player did this before. You know, I don't just tunnel with my reads, if I find some of my thoughts may be incorrect Ia m willing to reconsider things.
So call it complete 180 if you want, but don't wonder when I call you Hippie in response. :-)


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Krypsyn: So, yeah, I am left a little off balance currently. I want to see how folks respond to the new Day a little more before putting my vote down on someone. It is a bit out of character for me, I admit, but I feel a little like the proverbial rug has been pulled out from under me. I mean, I like rugs fine, but I don't like it when they move under me while I am trying to get my bearings. Nope, not at all. :)
It does sound out of character for you and it is also quite scummy. You want to wait which wagon gains motions before you hop on any?
You opened yourself opportunity to hop on me if things go my way, but at the same moment you stayed uncommited for now.

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GhostQlyph: I was conflicted on taking the hammer. On one hand, it was exactly as you said. On the other -- I was in the thread, and it was the low-hanging fruit, and avoiding it would have been SILLY considering I wanted him gone. I actually think that in the long run, NOT grabbing the hammervote would have made me seem more suspect.
Now this is scummy post. Low-hanging FRUIT? What is this? SEARCH for the player who CAN be lynched most easily?
We are not looking FOR low-hanging FRUIT? we are hunting scums.
Riddle me THIS, who is more concerned about not LOOKING too suspect? SCUM or TOWN?
WHO does decides HIS/her actions on trying to look MORE inconspicious?


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QuadrAlien: Might I point out something about the mod lynch? Zchinque's role was marked as Town, despite us coming to the conclusion that Third-party was more likely. Could this imply that there are no third-party roles in the game? I'm not sure how helpful this is, and it doesn't really take into account the theory about the two bullets at this stage, but it's at least something to consider.
I don't think I follow. How does it mean there are no neutrals? There most likely are not, but how does mod flipping town proves it?




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CSPVG: Gah, I had forgotten that votes don't carry over from one day to the next.

Moving along: I'm not entirely happy with the fact that we're freely sharing PM information, but since everyone else has answered, I should do likewise. I watched a rerun of my favourite television show, in which nothing of interest occured.

Seeing that JoeSapphire was Lisa Williams( Google informs me see is a noted Britsh tv psychic), that the show most of us tuned into was Joe's( i.e that this tv-show business was Joe's night action)?

Also: Does no one think that it would be helpful to rephrase the All players in this game are human: true/false question to be more specific( as I suggest in post 230)?
Crap, I accidentally posted it before I finished it. :-/
So here is the rest:

Why the hell ARE you all talking about your night PM?
What do you want TO achieve here?

But whatever.
I don't want to spend next week with this and when YOU already mention it, then I don't understand WHY is everyone just hinting tiny bit of it, while it is CLEAR to all of us anyway.
We all watched Siprimalform in rerun of our favourite show and it wasn't interesting because he wasn't targeted by anone.
Can we abandon it now?

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CSPVG: Moving along: I'm not entirely happy with the fact that we're freely sharing PM information, but since everyone else has answered, I should do likewise. I watched a rerun of my favourite television show, in which nothing of interest occured.
At least one sane person here.
Have some town points.

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CSPVG: Seeing that JoeSapphire was Lisa Williams( Google informs me see is a noted Britsh tv psychic), that the show most of us tuned into was Joe's( i.e that this tv-show business was Joe's night action)?
Nice find. Sounds logical.
If it won't happen again next night then it will most likely be true.

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CSPVG: Also: Does no one think that it would be helpful to rephrase the All players in this game are human: true/false question to be more specific( as I suggest in post 230)?
Do you think it is of some use?
Only person who made obstructions was Joe and he is gone now.
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CSPVG: ....................

Seeing that JoeSapphire was Lisa Williams( Google informs me see is a noted Britsh tv psychic), that the show most of us tuned into was Joe's( i.e that this tv-show business was Joe's night action)?
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You really think that was what the theme of the TV show was, Joe's night action??

As a side note, I think something may be wrong with vitek's cap lock key....
I like percussionists a fair bit, but I don't like it when they threaten to use me as a drum. :(

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Vitek: It does sound out of character for you and it is also quite scummy. You want to wait which wagon gains motions before you hop on any?
No, I mainly wanted to wait for the whole rerun thing to play out. As I mentioned in a previous post, I was all set to vote for GhostQlyph but then the rerun thing was brought up which confused matters for me. Now that it seems as if everyone got the rerun message, I feel comfortable going along with my previous strategy:

Vote GhostQlyph

I am also still suspicious of amok. Ironically, even moreso because GhostQlyph voted for him during Day 1. This could be a classic scum distancing tactic.

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Vitek: You opened yourself opportunity to hop on me if things go my way, but at the same moment you stayed uncommited for now.
Of course I did. In my estimation, you are leaning town, but I have no firm theories about you one way or the other. I would be remiss if I committed either way towards you without first getting more information.
Am alive, but my head is trying to kill me. I'll post when I can think straight.
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flubbucket: As a side note, I think something may be wrong with vitek's cap lock key....
I thought that's how cool kids roll in these times.
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Zchinque: Zchinque has been lynched. He was Zchinque – Invisible Town Moderator.
Lynching Mod is a silly thing to do - Bah!! Go Town.....
Ah, fuck.

There used to be a votevcount here, Moving on.
Post edited September 05, 2013 by Zchinque
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GhostQlyph: TwilightBard:

I'll remind you that I said that we had a better target and gave ALL SORTS of reasons not to do it on this day. I wanted Amok. I said, because of ALL the things that could have gone wrong, it should be a wagon of last resort. Nearing time-limit and no consensus? Bandwagon the mod -- at least it won't be an INTENTIONAL nolynch, whatever the outcome.
I'm gonna have to hit the pause button here. We weren't 'nearing the time limit', Z had stated that he was unhappy with the lull in activity, but he didn't put down a deadline. You're also misrepresenting where your vote came down. The votecount where Z expressed his unhappiness was 201, your vote was 208, and he accepted it at 209. With a deadline, yeah, I can see how you can argue that it was unintentional, and that you didn't have time to push more. But without, it takes a different meaning to me.

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GhostQlyph: I had a wagon I preferred -- when I put the hammervote on, I was doing so because my wagon of choice was NOT going to overturn the mod wagon, and given that I mentioned the possibility of bad things happening to the hammervoter, I felt I may as well stick my neck out, since I DID support it in some fashion. So call me mafia all you like, but really you just look like you're cherrypicking info. I still think you're town (albeit overzealous town), but watch your scumtalk and actually READ WHAT I SAID.
Well, I am reading what you said. The problem that I'm facing right now is that again, there's not a hell of a lot to work with here. Maybe I'm being overzealous in that regard, but there's only so much information I have to work with, for better or worse. I'm reading as much as I can and I'm quoting the pieces that I find most important. Maybe I have missed something, but I'm looking at the information available to me, including the timing of the hammervote, which had nothing to do with a deadline the way you implied it.

I guess I gotta do more rereading, but right now I don't have the time so I have to work with what's there right now.
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Zchinque: Lynching Mod is a silly thing to do - Bah!! Go Town.....
Well you were lurking quite a bit!
I don't know. Someone is just protesting a little bit too much for my liking now. I have had a little bit change of heart, but some patterns are starting to form in my mind.

Vote GhostQlyph

for now and see what happens.
Vote TwilightBard
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QuadrAlien: Might I point out something about the mod lynch? Zchinque's role was marked as Town, despite us coming to the conclusion that Third-party was more likely. Could this imply that there are no third-party roles in the game? I'm not sure how helpful this is, and it doesn't really take into account the theory about the two bullets at this stage, but it's at least something to consider.
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Vitek: I don't think I follow. How does it mean there are no neutrals? There most likely are not, but how does mod flipping town proves it?
I admit it's rather tenuous logic at best, and hardly what I'd call proof - it's just that if there were going to be any neutral roles I'd have expected the mod to be one of them - if the mod was wanting to put in only two sides without third party roles, they might just then assign their hidden role to one of them.

I should probably stop trying to second-guess Zchinque, though.

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(considers revoting Zchinque just in case, but decides against it)

And apologies for my delay in getting proper thoughts together, everyone - I keep forgetting that when I'm finally ready to put my thoughts together for the evening that my wireless connection at home has a tendency to break with alarming frequency. I really must look into that.
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SirPrimalform: Vote TwilightBard
Were there reasons posted for this vote that I missed, or is it a vote out of the blue?