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more mac, More Mac, MOAR MAC!!!

That's right. We've added an actual bucket full of Mac games to our catalog today. No, really, we got a bucket, filled it, and then made all of those games Mac compatible. Man, the way we do business can be odd sometimes. As usual, if you got the Windows version of one of these games previously, you'll be granted the Mac OS X version without any additional payment. Check the complete list of our Mac/Win dual-system games here.

The new huge batch of games includes acclaimed titles old and new. Here's a little preview just to show off some of them.

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And here's the full list of new additions:

Lords of the Realm 3
Septerra Core
Still Life 1
Expendable
Fallout Tactics
Mob Rule
Trine
Jagged Alliance 2
Jagged Alliance 2 Unfinished Business
Jack Keane
I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream
Costume Quest
Enclave
Smugglers V
World of Aden: Thunderscape
Stacking
Nancy Drew Curse of the Blackmoor Manor
Rogue Trooper
Legend of Kyrandia
Legends of Kyrandia Hand of Fate
Legends of Kyrandia Malcolm's Revenge
Shadowman
Haegemonia Gold
Iron Storm
Atlantis 2
Divine Divinity
Wizardry 6+7
Wizardry 8
Runaway: A Road Adventure
Runaway: Dream of the Turtle
11th Hour
Beyond Divinity
Realms of Arkania 3
Strike Suit Zero
Original War

EDIT:
Unfortunately, due to circumstances beyond our control, we needed to remove Daedalic Entertainment's The Whispered World from our Mac OS X lineup. We will offer a refund to anyone who bought the game between November 15 and November 20 2013, if they purchased the game based on Mac compatibility, and would like to get their money back. We're terribly sorry for this inconvenient situation!
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xyem: Because, as the wishlist reflected, there are more people (on the forum) who care about Linux support than Mac.
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Petrell: Shame I can't remove my vote now. I don't want my vote being used as excuse for spam and topic derailing. It was vote for "I'm not against it, do it if you (GOG staff) see it profitable".
Sorry, I didn't mean that it was excuse to derail the topic or to spam. Just saying that with the forum community wanting Linux support, a topic saying "Hey Mac users, you get more games" would naturally attract their attention, especially when the forum response to the new releases on Mac was quite muted.
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dirtyharry50: I don't think that constitutes a valid reason to hijack a thread about more Mac games coming to GOG.
It wasn't intended to be, sorry.

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dirtyharry50: Let us be happy in peace will you please? It isn't like I haven't twice now said I sympathize with Linux gamers wanting Linux games here too. This is not the place for this discussion. By all means, create a new thread to carry it on there. I promise I will not come and hijack it with a lot of stuff about how Mac games are more lucrative to sell here thus they are first, etc., etc.
There is actually a fairly good reason to start such a discussion here (though that wasn't my intent). It is more likely the GOG staff monitor the news topics than "We want Linux support #45". I don't recall seeing any GOG staff in the last 3 or so Linux topics I've read (though I may be mistaken).

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dirtyharry50: Back on topic, did you see the post above about how many Mac titles GOG has sold since bringing them here? It sure looks like that turned out to be a good move regardless of how many of those users like to visit these forums.
Indeed I did, but I don't get your point. It may have been a good move.. but choosing Linux may have been better. There is no way to tell (and I'm not arguing they should have either way).

They released some more games on Mac. That's great and I am pleased more Mac gamers get to play more GOGs "properly" (natively, easier to install or whatever).

All I'm saying is that GOG could do something for the Linux users. Even if it was providing access to the binaries under explicit agreement that no support would be available at all (like requesting CD keys). That'd feel more like customer love than "No. You get nothing. Good day!"
awesome! thanks for some I was really waiting for. Would also be great to get the Gabriel Knight serie and the CYAN games.

cheers.
Post edited November 17, 2013 by mog768
Would it be possible to add the Mac version of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Complete? I think there was a Mac version of the complete edition...

I'm not a Mac gamer, I'm just curious :D
Post edited November 17, 2013 by BillyMaysFan59
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dirtyharry50: Back on topic, did you see the post above about how many Mac titles GOG has sold since bringing them here? It sure looks like that turned out to be a good move regardless of how many of those users like to visit these forums.
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xyem: Indeed I did, but I don't get your point. It may have been a good move.. but choosing Linux may have been better. There is no way to tell (and I'm not arguing they should have either way).
You can't arque choosing MAC over Linux being the safer choise considering MAC has 4 times the market share of linux. It's also one distribution while Linux has hundreds. Also you can't arque it being good one considering 1.1 million MAC game downloads since the lauch of MAC support (compare it to 6 million total for first three years when there was neither indies nor MAC support).

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xyem: All I'm saying is that GOG could do something for the Linux users. Even if it was providing access to the binaries under explicit agreement that no support would be available at all (like requesting CD keys). That'd feel more like customer love than "No. You get nothing. Good day!"
While I syphatise, I must point out it has never worked. People do not read the warnings (just read any steam early access forum) nor will they accept being threated 2nd class customers. I can almost quarantee that the only result would support spam and topics about GOG only providing tarballs/binaries or whatever to Linux user and not providing any support when they do to Windows and MAC users.

It works at other places because everyone gets the same "service" that is basically no support at all unless it's related to the stores themselves. And GOG staff has, in many occasions, pointed that they provide support for all their customers (It's one of the GOG founding principles for god's sake, a rare thing in a world going toward self service and service automation, a principle that sets them apart from all the other DD services (should just call them store fronts really)) and as soon as they find a way to profitably provide exactly same service as they provide Windows and MAC users to Linux users they will add Linux support and not moment before.
Post edited November 17, 2013 by Petrell
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BillyMaysFan59: Would it be possible to add the Mac version of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Complete? I think there was a Mac version of the complete edition...

I'm not a Mac gamer, I'm just curious :D
It depends on lot of things: Does GOG has permission to distribute MAC version? Does distributer or GOG have binary on hand or does GOG have to go dig one up? Does the MAC version work with modern MAC operating systems (OS X 10.6.8 or newer) or can it be modified to work on them? If not, can the windows version be made to work on MAC using Wine/Wineskin. How much work would it require to make it work. And so one and so forth.

Edit: Now that I think about it, HoMM 3 might've been one of the games that GOG had difficulties to make work on Windows back in the day when they still announced upcoming releases and it kept being delayed quite a lot iirc (probably one of the reasons they stopped announcing upcoming games).
Post edited November 17, 2013 by Petrell
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BillyMaysFan59: Would it be possible to add the Mac version of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Complete? I think there was a Mac version of the complete edition...

I'm not a Mac gamer, I'm just curious :D
The original Mac version? No way, it won't run on today's hard- and software. That said, one could make the Windows version run in Wine, and that would be the most feasible solution, it has already been done to many other games that are Windows-only (like Divine Divinity).
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BillyMaysFan59: Would it be possible to add the Mac version of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Complete? I think there was a Mac version of the complete edition...

I'm not a Mac gamer, I'm just curious :D
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HiPhish: The original Mac version? No way, it won't run on today's hard- and software. That said, one could make the Windows version run in Wine, and that would be the most feasible solution, it has already been done to many other games that are Windows-only (like Divine Divinity).
Asked only out of curiosity, I know nothing about Macs. Bursts of curiosity strike me sometimes :/
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HiPhish: The original Mac version? No way, it won't run on today's hard- and software.
Oh right, forgot that Mac's used PowerPC architecture back then so no compatibility with today's hardware not to mention Apple dropped pre-MAC OS X support at one point from MAX OS X (forget the version). So wine is the only solution.
Post edited November 17, 2013 by Petrell
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Petrell: It's also one distribution while Linux has hundreds
I'm not arguing that they support hundreds of Linux distributions. No-one ever has.

If you claim that "Support Linux" means that, then GOG doesn't have Windows support either (3.11, 95, 98, ME, CE are all missing) or Mac support (10.1, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4, 10.5, 10.6, 10.6.1, 10.6.2, 10.6.2, 10.6.3, 10.6.4, 10.6.5, 10.6.6, 10.6.7 are missing [to my knowledge]).

Just one Linux distribution is fine.
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Petrell: It's also one distribution while Linux has hundreds
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xyem: I'm not arguing that they support hundreds of Linux distributions. No-one ever has.

Just one Linux distribution is fine.
But no one Linux distribution covers 90% or more of the entire Linux user base, does it? I'm not even sure 3 most popular distributions cover that much whereas "Windows XP or newer" and "MAC OS X 1.6.8.0 or newer" do for Windows and Mac. It's not the problem that there hundred+ Linux distributions, it's the user base fragmentation among them. If 90% or more of the Linux users used version of Ubundu, things probably would be fine but they don't, do they? It would be like saying Windows 8.0/8.1 support is enough for windows support (covering from 5 to 8 % or so of entire Windows user base, a user base still numerically larger than enire Linux user base combined).

Edit: Oh and if you want most popular Linux based OS, wouldn't that be Android? ;-p
Post edited November 17, 2013 by Petrell
Linux is a fractured platform while Mac is a unified platform. No matter how it is spun, its simply much easier to support and maintain a Mac release of a product vs a Linux release.

What I would like to see however is what they did for Heroes of Might and Magic II. With that game they released the Windows (non dos-box) version as an unsupported extra and made it clear that they were not supporting it. For games (mostly the independent releases) that have native Linux versions available I feel they should release it as an unsupported extra.
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takethepain: Linux is a fractured platform while Mac is a unified platform. No matter how it is spun, its simply much easier to support and maintain a Mac release of a product vs a Linux release.
Technically, as I pointed above, the OS fractuation is not the real problem, the fartuation of the user base among them is. There might be million and one linux kenrel based OS's as long as 90% or more of the Linux users used single distribution on PC (say ubundu). After all, linux is used all over the place these days but it does not matter here that your coffee maker or washing machine runs on linux, does it? ;-p
Can the Linux discussion please, please move elsewhere now? Even TET has also noted it is way off topic here and invited IRC chat and PM to him to discuss it further if desired. Let it go please. This isn't the place for it. It is not cool to derail a thread to champion some other agenda, however passionately felt.

TET made GOG's position clear. There's no reason for Mac users and Linux users to be arguing about Linux here in an announcement thread about more Mac games being released. I have tried to be civil about requesting this but I am losing patience. A little common courtesy sure would be nice right about now.

It would be really nice if we could be talking about the new Mac releases in this thread.

It's a real shame that a Mac user new to the forums might come here to read this thread about Mac games and have to sift through all of this unrelated discussion.
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BillyMaysFan59: Would it be possible to add the Mac version of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Complete? I think there was a Mac version of the complete edition...

I'm not a Mac gamer, I'm just curious :D
I think a lot of the Might and Magic games will ultimately be setup for Macs here in time. It's a series I am really looking forward to seeing get the Mac treatment. That'll be great.
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sauvignon1: Too bad Arcanum isn't on the list. Bought it when I still used Windows but never played it much, now I can't play it at all.
Judging by this Wine AppDB entry,

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&amp;iId=22375

it looks like it may work fine with some tweaking but it would need to be tried and tested with OS X and probably using Wineskin I expect. Hopefully, they will give this a shot at some point and have success with it. That would be cool.
Post edited November 17, 2013 by dirtyharry50
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BillyMaysFan59: Would it be possible to add the Mac version of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Complete? I think there was a Mac version of the complete edition...

I'm not a Mac gamer, I'm just curious :D
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dirtyharry50: I think a lot of the Might and Magic games will ultimately be setup for Macs here in time. It's a series I am really looking forward to seeing get the Mac treatment. That'll be great.
I hope so, but it doesn't seem as if GOG has been able to bring any of Ubisoft (or Square Enix, or Activision, and so on) titles to the Mac yet, so I guess it's something they need to get the rights for each title and from each publisher for. I do hope they'll be able to do this.
The only sad thing about a Mac batch drop is it'll be another 2-4 months till the next one, but at least there's plenty of stuff to tide us over till then. And it looks like for me most of that'll have to be classics, since I can't get newer 3D games like Trine to run smoothly on my old MacBook Air. That's alright, I'm really digging Wing Commander 1 right now. :)
Post edited November 17, 2013 by SCPM