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A Zoom executive was just indicted in the US.
Discussions about pro Democracy movements in China were shut down on Zoom by the request of Communist China.

Don't use Zoom if you value your information.
where is the article?
people need to know this
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This is quite confusing after all posts about Zoom (the gaming platform) possibly offering Devotion a new home, but totally unrelated, since this is about Zoom (the video conferencing app).

I always thought it was a poor choice of name for the gaming platform, but this is kind of ironic now. ;P
I know skype (Microsoft owned) forwards all messages through the NSA (A guy thought something was up so sent a link to himself referring to a site/login he had control of and got something like 40 pings immediately following the message)

Zoom going to CCP? Interesting...
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Leroux: Zoom (the gaming platform) ... I always thought it was a poor choice of name for the gaming platform
Well there was Xoom, which was a hosting site back when Geocities and Angelfire were still a thing... It would have been a bit less confusing, but same audible name.
Post edited December 23, 2020 by rtcvb32
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Niggles: where is the article?
people need to know this
New York Times

By Nicole Hong
Dec. 18, 2020
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In a novel case, federal prosecutors on Friday brought criminal charges against an executive at Zoom, the videoconferencing company, accusing him of engaging in a conspiracy to disrupt and censor video meetings commemorating one of the most politically sensitive events in China.

Prosecutors said the executive, Xinjiang Jin, who is based in China, fabricated reasons to suspend accounts of people in New York who were hosting memorials on the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre and coordinated with Chinese officials to identify potentially problematic meetings.

He is accused of working with others to log into the video meetings under aliases using profile pictures that related to terrorism or child pornography. Afterward, Mr. Jin would report the meetings for violating terms of service, prosecutors said.

At least four meetings commemorating the massacre this year — largely attended by U.S.-based users — were terminated as a result of Mr. Jin’s actions, according to prosecutors.

Mr. Jin, who is also known as Julien Jin, acted as the liaison between Zoom and Chinese government authorities, prosecutors said. He is identified in the criminal complaint only as an employee of a U.S. telecommunications company. Zoom confirmed on Friday that it was the company.

Mr. Jin has not been arrested and is at large in China, which does not have an extradition treaty with the United States.

Read the Criminal Complaint Against Julien Jin
Mr. Jin is accused of engaging in a conspiracy to censor Zoom users in the United States.

The case represented an unusually sharp warning by law enforcement officials to American technology companies that operate in China, which often find themselves caught between the principles of free speech and the demands of China’s censorship machine.

“Americans should understand that the Chinese government will not hesitate to exploit companies operating in China to further their international agenda, including repression of free speech,” Christopher Wray, director of the F.B.I., said in a statement.

A spokesman for Zoom said on Friday that Mr. Jin violated its policies by attempting to circumvent internal controls. Mr. Jin has been fired, and other Zoom employees have been placed on administrative leave pending the completion of an internal investigation.

In a lengthy statement, the company said it has since provided end-to-end encryption for all users and restricted access for China-based employees to Zoom’s global network.

The company has its headquarters in San Jose, Calif., and has hundreds of employees in China.

Charging a China-based employee working for an American company is an aggressive rebuke against China, which requires tech companies that operate there to monitor user activity in order to censor politically sensitive topics.

Seth DuCharme, the acting U.S. attorney in Brooklyn, whose office brought the case, said the allegations exposed the security vulnerabilities of American tech companies that engage in the “Faustian bargain” of operating in China.
and this is related to games how? can you please move over to reddit or 4chan, and can we get a mod to close this thread?
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amok: and this is related to games how? can you please move over to reddit or 4chan, and can we get a mod to close this thread?
Oh so your fussy about what u allow to be talked about and not talked about?. Plenty of non games related threads. why u picking on this one?
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amok: and this is related to games how? can you please move over to reddit or 4chan, and can we get a mod to close this thread?
Lol. How is "Give a reason why the user above you should be banned" (or many of other persistent 'off-topic' threads) related to games?
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Leroux: This is quite confusing after all posts about Zoom (the gaming platform) possibly offering Devotion a new home, but totally unrelated, since this is about Zoom (the video conferencing app).

I always thought it was a poor choice of name for the gaming platform, but this is kind of ironic now. ;P
My understanding is that the online game store chose the name before Zoom chat became big. So, it seems like it's more bad luck than bad judgement. But, I agree, the name clash is very bad for them and they really ought to re-brand.
Post edited December 23, 2020 by Time4Tea
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Jorev: A Zoom executive was just indicted in the US.
Discussions about pro Democracy movements in China were shut down on Zoom by the request of Communist China.

Don't use Zoom if you value your information.
Discussion about a variety of subjects have been shutdown on facebook,twitter,twitch,google,youtube at the behest of various parties who also spy on everyone.
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§pectre: Discussion about a variety of subjects have been shutdown on facebook,twitter,twitch,google,youtube at the behest of various parties who also spy on everyone.
Gotta wonder if Section 230 gets reformed/removed, if things will change and hopefully for the better.

But for now, censorship seems to be the default.
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Zoom was pretending to be the good guy by saying they would sell Devotion but instead they were working directly with the CCP?
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samuraigaiden: Zoom was pretending to be the good guy by saying they would sell Devotion but instead they were working directly with the CCP?
Zoom the video conferencing service routed their traffic of non-Chinese citizens through China, which, according to Zoom's CEO happened by mistake. Here is a full albeit old story

Zoom, the other one, is a gaming service and besides its name got nothing to do with Zoom the online conferencing service. The former may host Devotion and they certainly don't work with the PRC. Here is a link to the Zoom Platform

Add.: As to the lawsuit they got many more than one pending against them - Zoom - the video conferencing service. See here

Some of them got settled while others are obviously still pending and some new ones been added.
Post edited December 23, 2020 by Mori_Yuki
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Niggles: Oh so your fussy about what u allow to be talked about and not talked about?. Plenty of non games related threads. why u picking on this one?
There are (in general) a lot of "nimby" (not in my backyard) types across the net that like to "mini-mod" what is posted on them, instead of doing the rational thing and ignoring the posts and threads they dislike. Heck, there are even forum extensions one can download to hide threads one doesn't want to see...yet such types will still complain.
Post edited December 23, 2020 by GamezRanker
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amok: and this is related to games how? can you please move over to reddit or 4chan, and can we get a mod to close this thread?
Why do you want to censor this news? Do you work for Zoom or are you a Chinese agent?

I, like Niggles and Time4Tea, also found your request curious considering you have overlooked a dozen threads not related to gaming which have thrived on this forum.
In fact, the Communist Chinese Overlords have informed me you have actually participated in non gaming related threads.
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samuraigaiden: Zoom was pretending to be the good guy by saying they would sell Devotion but instead they were working directly with the CCP?
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Mori_Yuki: Zoom the video conferencing service routed their traffic of non-Chinese citizens through China, which, according to Zoom's CEO happened by mistake. Here is a full albeit old story

Zoom, the other one, is a gaming service and besides its name got nothing to do with Zoom the online conferencing service. The former may host Devotion and they certainly don't work with the PRC. Here is a link to the Zoom Platform

Add.: As to the lawsuit they got many more than one pending against them - Zoom - the video conferencing service. See here

Some of them got settled while others are obviously still pending and some new ones been added.
by mistake:P
sure
only idiots trust china companies , all of them are ccp puppets