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So, got the Privacy Policy update e-mail. Being somewhat annoyed by the surveillance creep in everything digital (and having both caught the end of joys of living in the Soviet bloc and having read my share of classic sci-fi to get some taste just how horrible of a practice that is), I decided to look at the changes.

Apparently it's too difficult for GOG to host the privacy policy on their own site, so scoot over to ZenDesk that does their sub-contracting for customer support, because apparently hosting a single bloody text document on your own servers is too cost-prohibitive. Or something.

ZenDesk is already heavily into data mining themselves: https://www.zendesk.com/company/customers-partners/privacy-policy/

Basically "all UR data R belong to us" policy, but wait, that's not all!

If you do not allow third-party scripts on ZenDesk's page, you're SOL because it won't load the actual document anyway. They use several additional third (or, should it be "fourth" by now?) party providers:

jsdelivr.net - https://github.com/jsdelivr/jsdelivr/blob/master/Privacy%20Policy%20-%20jsdelivr.com.md
Same-same, everybody wants in on that sweet, sweet tradeable metadata.

zdassets.com - couldn't even access that page for some reason. Either they are already blocked on my end, or they only allow specific outside references to be processed. Either way, NFC what their privacy policy is (isn't that a very much illegal action when targeting EU residents now?), but not exactly holding my breath for "no third-parties sharing" clause.

bootstrapcdn.com - https://www.bootstrapcdn.com/privacy-policy/
One of the largest CDN networks, so as usual they can take everything they want and trade it around.

Then the usual Google stuff, because apparently internet can't work without letting Google data-mine the request origin:
googletagmanager.com
fonts.googleapis.com

Oh, and on top of that, both jsdelivr.net and bootstrapcdn.com have integrated Google Analytics anyway.

And that's just information that my scrubby non-infosec-professional butt dug out in about 10 minutes of time.

So much for "your privacy is important to us," GOG. Good laugh.

Now, would you kindly bloody well host the sodding Privacy Policy on your own servers so I can actually see it without giving everybody and their grandma's data-mining services my info?

Thanks.
Post edited June 28, 2019 by Lukaszmik
That's why I purposely look up the most degenerate porn imaginable just so whoever gets my data has to bleach their eyes out.
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Crosmando: That's why I purposely look up the most degenerate porn imaginable just so whoever gets my data has to bleach their eyes out.
I try to freak them out.

I keep my HDD full of pictures of mannequins in bondage gear playing chess.
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Lukaszmik: Now, would you kindly bloody well host the sodding Privacy Policy on your own servers so I can actually see it without giving everybody and their grandma's data-mining services my info?

Thanks.
I don't think they read forums, you probably need to contact support.. using ZenDesk :-)
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Crosmando: That's why I purposely look up the most degenerate porn imaginable just so whoever gets my data has to bleach their eyes out.
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tinyE: I try to freak them out.

I keep my HDD full of pictures of mannequins in bondage gear playing chess.
But that's cute! =D
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tinyE: I try to freak them out.

I keep my HDD full of pictures of mannequins in bondage gear playing chess.
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StarChan: But that's cute! =D
And what about this?
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Lukaszmik:
That is concerning.


You may wish to contact GOG's staff about it via privacy@gog.com.

I found that e-mail on the Privacy Policy page on the gog.com support center.
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StarChan: But that's cute! =D
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tinyE: And what about this?
Sugar hiccup!
I am sure the NSA enjoys my tentacle porn collection.

I just love to share.
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Lukaszmik: Then the usual Google stuff, because apparently internet can't work without letting Google data-mine the request origin:
googletagmanager.com
fonts.googleapis.com
GOG's site uses both of these as well, along with pretty much every website.

Its a shame that the web has become so reliant on Google or other tracking software.
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tinyE: And what about this?
Absolutely loving it!

Joking aside, does anybody seriously analyses our data, or is it all done by AI-s?
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clarry: I don't think they read forums, you probably need to contact support.. using ZenDesk :-)
On every occasion I did require some help from them since they switched to ZenDesk I just send the e-mail to "support@gog.com" and it worked so far.
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SpellSword: That is concerning.

You may wish to contact GOG's staff about it via privacy@gog.com.

I found that e-mail on the Privacy Policy page on the gog.com support center.
Last time I did that (also after change to Privacy Policy due to Galaxy), I got a boilerplate "we care about our customers soo much here's some nonbinding and effectively meaningless response" of a reply. And, obviously, nothing changed.

Hell, remember when GOG implemented Facebook integration right after FB got found out being heavily involved in voting manipulation in the US? I don't think GOG's "we care about privacy" is anything but marketspeak. I certainly don't see them "caring" about privacy with every change they make to either the site or terms of service.

Maybe, maybe, if there's enough negative feedback on the forums GOG will actually start genuinely "caring" about user's privacy. Small hope, but they did change things before on the rare occasion enough people complained.

Though never when it came to actual privacy, even though there was a really heated discussion when they opened that can of worms with original Galaxy-oriented Privacy Policy change. Because apparently it's impossible to provide a service nowadays that limits user's exposure to data-miners, despite the fact that doing so would give GOG an immediate edge up over competition.

And I strongly suspect GOG's core user base (those of us who have been supporting GOG since its inception) are far more likely to care about those things in the first place.

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Pond86: GOG's site uses both of these as well, along with pretty much every website.

Its a shame that the web has become so reliant on Google or other tracking software.
I know, you can't even redeem a game code without stupid Google CAPTCHA, despite the fact that even sites like Nexus Mods somehow can self-host that.

To be fair, though, at least GOG's main site does work with third-party scripts blocked, and their customer support will feed you just "don't want to use it, tough luck" dressed in nice words of a reply. I know, I tried the last time I got kickstarter GOG code.

Anyway, I remember the main site not working without third-party scripts (and they were a doozy - Amazon and Google data-mining REQUIRED) a few times back, but - credit where it's due - they addressed that point when enough people complained. Yours truly included, so there's that warm buzz of GOG actually being capable of listening to customers.

Just not lately, much, it seems. Or, wrong customers, because apparently GOG is now all about the mayfly-loyalty of the average Steam user, heh.

Hell, at this point all I'd like to see is GOG having the Privacy Policy hosted on their own servers as part of the main site. Why this isn't so in the first place, but locked behind third-parties and their data-mining scripts, is beyond me.
Post edited June 28, 2019 by Lukaszmik
Highly rated, impressive, however everyone who rated it probably uses Internet Explorer, Microsoft Edge or Google Chrome, and has little to no knowledge on how to block ads.

I wonder how many of them even have a firewall besides Windows own, which adds what it wants..
Yeah; whenever I see any homepage welcome me with an "we value your privacy" sign I mentally puke the same second I alt+f4 it and reconsider how serious I really need whatever it has to offer.

Its not even that I know that they (as in almost all official homepages) are datamining fucktarts; trying to sell it like they are not is whats extremely insulting.
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Anothername: Yeah; whenever I see any homepage welcome me with an "we value your privacy" sign I mentally puke the same second I alt+f4 it and reconsider how serious I really need whatever it has to offer.

Its not even that I know that they (as in almost all official homepages) are datamining fucktarts; trying to sell it like they are not is whats extremely insulting.
Legally they have to have a popup telling you. Nothing has changed, they have been mining data since they could earn money from it.


Acting like it's an issue now is a joke, you might aswell unplug your router and hide in a cave.