Sadly, that is not below Microsoft. Probably through DirectX 12.

Yep. I know Microsoft's tactics and this is one of them.
I heard they hunt down people who pirates their software and unleash hell on them.

That's true, they make them use MS products until they promise not to pirate any more software. If they catch the MS attorneys on a bad day, they have to use Windows 8 on a desktop.
Why are you still using MS Update? WSUS Offline update is the way to go. Especially for those times when you need to reinstall and don't want that prolonged period where you're online, but not completely patched.

Only hardcore computer guys would tell me about using an entirely different update system :P

Perhaps, but considering how many times I've had to reinstall Windows over the years, I'd rather just download once and then apply just the patches that are needed. The official updater is rather brain-damaged and likes to install all the patches even if future patches provide the same code, resulting in a huge waste of time.

Also, the endless reboots if you're installing a new copy just before the next SP.

Why are you not slipstreaming the patches into the installation disk then? You've already downloaded them, take a bit longer and patch the disk, then use that to install. Quite a bit faster, since it doesn't need the reboots requests you get if you install the patches on an installed system.

Because of reasons.

Well, part of it is that you can't update already installed copies using slipstreaming, you can only do that at install time. So, it does solve the part about being caught with your junk out in the air during that first bit. But, I've got more than one computer, so I can take the WSUS disk from computer to computer and save a bit of bandwidth. It happens that it's also useful when I want to reinstall.

It also means that I have a copy of all those patches for cases like XP where MS is going to eventually turn off the update server completely. And can share those copies between computers if need be.

That's not to say that slipstreaming isn't worthwhile. But, out of habit, I only bother to slipstream a copy when there's a new service pack out. I'm just too lazy in most cases to create new installation media the rest of the time. And WSUS has more flexibility.

Of course you can do that, but the annoying update to window 10 notification pop up from time to time. If that does not bother you then you can leave it alone.

Seeing the reservation just means that they think your system meets the requirements and you have a genuine copy, I think they really ought to let you disable it if for people that want to wait for the 29th to update.

Personally, the VM in which I use 7 doesn't have a WDDM driver, so I'll be waiting regardless. Still, it would be nice to be able to reserve just to get that out of the way.

I think you guys are overanalyzing and over complicating things. The expected lifespan per device is 2-4 years, with variance allowed.

What MS seems to be saying, is instead of killing support like it did for XP, it will kill support for the OS unless you subscribe to updates beyond its designated lifespan.

Knowing MS and its new president though, I doubt this will be of any significance or even happen. They are, after all, in the process of giving away millions of dollars of potential revenue via a free OS upgrade.

I'm neither for nor against MS. I use Windows because it supports the most games; if I could figure out a good Linux distro that runs everything I own, I'd probably switch if the headache wasn't too big. Hell, I almost switched a couple years ago if you go hunting down old threads, even asking the Linux peeps here for advice.

Just don't jump the gun on everything you see and hear; Win 10 is a free upgrade right now, and if you don't like it, back up your files in the next few days and go back to the OS you were using before. I'm already ready for a Win 7 reinstall the weekend following the 29th if it doesn't go well; but based on the preview, I think I'll be ok.

They are not saying that. They say that instead of reporting all of the income from selling a Windows 10 copy on year one, they will spread said income over the expected lifespan of the device, and report it in chunks. Updates for Windows 10 will be available until at least October 2025.

hi, i saw this post and googled and found another explanation:


howtogeek.com/220957/no-windows-10-won%E2%80%99t-require-a-subscription-heres-how-microsoft-plans-on-making-mo ney-instead/

its a long explanation and has some replies
i read similar articles and it seems that a number of users said if it be the case we have to cough up cash every month, so, they rather keep using the old win vista / 7 / 8.

well we have at least 3 tot 4 years left on extended support for security patches so i will see what i will do when that time arrives.

Thanks, JMich. As you know, stuff on the internet is very sujective. :)

For detailed technical news, yeah, not a good source.

But for detailed reaction pieces? Great source. I don't want to hear what It professionals think about Win10. They'll either adapt to it or start using Linux. I want to hear what IT users think, because those are the people who will cause the most support requests.

Well there's one thing that is certain to be a subscription as part of windows 10:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/30/9072555/windows-10-free-solitaire-wants-you-to-pay-10-a-year-to-remove

Maybe they can make searches from the start menu pay-to-find!