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We are fairly deep into the new series and I am not happy at all with this new story made to go in the middle of Z and GT and remove GT entirely.

And don't get me started with the F'n blue hair and red hair god form... that was too much

Animation looks god awful fighting scenes don't look as good as Z did around the android saga and cell saga.
Characters feel like carbon copies of what was in Z and mixed ideas from Dragon ball and Dragon quest added in.

What do you who watch it think of it so far, Do you think this was even necessary to have or should they have just redone GT the proper way?

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Grow to hate me ;)
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Post edited April 25, 2016 by DreamedArtist
Wow that looks utterly retarded. I haven't been following DBZ for the last few years, and it seems good I did that.
I'm not and most of the bad animations were corrected in the BluRay releases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3vJDBW7GZU
http://imgur.com/a/jJsF3
Post edited April 24, 2016 by Terpor
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DreamedArtist: What do you who watch it think of it so far?
Pretty faithful to the spirit of Dragon Ball (the fact that Akira Toriyama happens to be involved definitely helps).

As for those comparisons: way to cherry pick screenshots. Not only the anime had pretty shoddy animation on many episodes back then, but you went as far as to pick midframe animation shots, which are simplistic on purpose since they are meant to be viewed as a sequence.
Post edited April 24, 2016 by Alexrd
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DreamedArtist: What do you who watch it think of it so far?
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Alexrd: Pretty faithful to the spirit of Dragon Ball (the fact that Akira Toriyama happens to be involved definitely helps).

As for those comparisons: way to cherry pick screenshots. Not only the anime had pretty shoddy animation on many episodes back then, but you went as far as to pick midframe animation shots, which are simplistic on purpose since they are meant to be viewed as a sequence.
mind you I mentioned story the images was to show how level of detail took a dip over the years in animation, Even dragon ball z's shitty animation looked better than what is offered now. and a lot agree.

What do you think of the story and characters being shit out left and right ? I feel this is lazy and cookie cutter like the battle championship thing going on.

I feel Super is trying to capture the spirit of dragon ball and some of Z which is cool but has already been done. I feel that he should have just re done GT from scratch and keep all the characters and just plan the story a lot better.
Post edited April 24, 2016 by DreamedArtist
Completely agree with you, it´s garbage.
Compare the animations of Dragon Ball Super to even Fate Stay Night...it´s like kids were working on DBS.
No, but that's because I've only gotten as far as, "Wedding Plans?!" in the original Dragon Ball.
I have a friend who warned me to stay away from this. Looks like he was right.
I watched the first couple episodes, I found the Vegeta on the theme park idea pretty fun. But I saw the story was retelling the last movie and lost interest. I've heard about the drawing quality being shitty, and normally don't care, but those screenshots are pretty bad.

As for the story, it's not like the original DBZ was that deep outside our nostalgia. I love DB and DBZ, they were the shows of my childhood, but it was constant one upping each other's power level without much more to it. The dragon ball search in Namek was fun, but after that it was all pretty basic and all characters just punched each other without any strategy to it. I don't think I would particularly like it if I watched it now for the first time, and if super is faithful to the originals, I probably won't like it either. That said, I know I'll eventually watch it, because I'm a sucker.
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DreamedArtist: mind you I mentioned story the images was to show how level of detail took a dip over the years in animation,
Except it hasn't. The fact that you had to cherry pick pretty much proves that.
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DreamedArtist: Even dragon ball z's shitty animation looked better than what is offered now. and a lot agree.
Ad populum doesn't make something true.
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DreamedArtist: What do you think of the story and characters being shit out left and right ?
I think the story is good enough and most importantly: interesting. Don't recall anything that fits your description of it.

EDIT: Here are some examples of the "brilliant" animation of DBZ. And unlike your examples of Super, these aren't midframes: [url=http://41.media.tumblr.com/ba23d0597cd4bbf7623df5f422254c45/tumblr_nszbwttDvx1uaohxwo1_1280.jpg]Screen2 Screen3

And here are some examples of the "horrible" animation of Super: [url=http://i.imgur.com/iGcjYco.png]Screen2

"The horror... The horror..." -- Kurtz, Apocalypse Now
Post edited April 24, 2016 by Alexrd
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DreamedArtist: this new story made to go in the middle of Z and GT and remove GT entirely.
Well, GT was never canon in the first place, so this shouldn't be much of an issue.
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Alexrd: And here are some examples of the "horrible" animation of Super: [url=http://i.imgur.com/iGcjYco.png]Screen2

"The horror... The horror..." -- Kurtz, Apocalypse Now
yes everybody every company has imperfection and nothing is perfect but you can't deny that they did not give 2 shits when they made this, This is flash animation which is the most bullshit way out of getting things done fast, Yes it looks more modern, Yes it looks more colorful, Yes it looks sharp but you cant deny that Z in general had way better art and fight scenes from 1996 to 99 late 2004.

and budget was a lot cheaper back then and now we get this? why could this have not been hand drawn? it is cheaper if the method they used was the same way as back then which was brought up and they keep on ignoring cause they fucked up with it. even the creator of Dragon ball was upset with this animation go look it up.

Toriyama-san said: “Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live-action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I’m complaining about the quality of the new TV anime.

and here is a small picture of how a little color can help fix a lot lol

but at the end of the day my 2cents is just 2cents and I scream in the darkness lol
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Post edited April 24, 2016 by DreamedArtist
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DreamedArtist: but you can't deny that they did not give 2 shits when they made this,
Sure I can.

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DreamedArtist: This is flash animation
What does that even mean?

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DreamedArtist: but you cant deny that Z in general had way better art and fight scenes from 1996 to 99 late 2004.
Again, sure I can deny that. Z, like Super, had its highs and lows. And no, the lows were not rare.

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DreamedArtist: and budget was a lot cheaper back then and now we get this? why could this have not been hand drawn?
What?! It is hand drawn.

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DreamedArtist: it is cheaper if the method they used was the same way as back then which was brought up and they keep on ignoring cause they fucked up with it. even the creator of Dragon ball was upset with this animation go look it up.
Not even feeding the amount of ignorance in your post. You are in your right to not like something, but to make stuff up and judging a process you clearly know nothing about to begin with is ridiculous.

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DreamedArtist: and here is a small picture of how a little color can help fix a lot lol
Fix what? There's nothing to be fixed to begin with. You just changed the colors and grading to what you want them to be instead of what they are meant to be. That's not fixing. It's pretentiousness and ignorance.
Well as a forever dragon ball fan i guess i will watch this too, honestly everything with goku is ok for me but ofc the older series look better for sure! At least more serious! Even thought that was not really Mr. Akira's style he had a perfect mix of everything, Prof. Slump and the original dragon ball were the big thing for sure that demonstrate his unique style and way of expression.
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TwinSeeker: Well as a forever dragon ball fan i guess i will watch this too, honestly everything with goku is ok for me but ofc the older series look better for sure! At least more serious! Even thought that was not really Mr. Akira's style he had a perfect mix of everything, Prof. Slump and the original dragon ball were the big thing for sure that demonstrate his unique style and way of expression.
Thank you! I agree with you and you worded it out better then me good sir.

I would recommend watching after the frieza part of the series and get right to the universe plot line if you seen both of the new movies . unless you are more the guy to finish all the filler in the middle like me on stuff haha

Just don't expect much and grow to think of it like an OVA special or sorts, Like goku and friends return special, That is what I think of this whole new 100 ep series to be now.
Post edited April 25, 2016 by DreamedArtist