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Breja: By the way- apparently there's an official G2A energy drink now. I just saw it in a store today and I literally felt my brain break a little.
What... language is that in? Polish?
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Breja: By the way- apparently there's an official G2A energy drink now. I just saw it in a store today and I literally felt my brain break a little.
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rtcvb32: What... language is that in? Polish?
Yes. G2A is, sadly, a Polish company. And apparently it's absolutely beloved here. Any time there's any new story about indie devs complaining against G2A, or about G2A's shady business, the comments on Polish websites are 99% pro G2A and extremely hateful and aggressive towards anyone speaking against it.
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Cyker: It's like some weird corporate stockholm syndrome or something
Sorta this....they provide a somewhat decent or widespread product/service that people depend on, so people say "who cares" to the downsides and use it anyways.
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richlind33: Now he's promoting paypal. lol
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RedRagan: The irony is that even paypal is getting worse now and we still don't have a good alternative
I stopped using it 5-6 years ago, as it provided no useful benefits. A debit card is all I need, thank you very much. :o
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rtcvb32: What... language is that in? Polish?
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Breja: Yes. G2A is, sadly, a Polish company. And apparently it's absolutely beloved here. Any time there's any new story about indie devs complaining against G2A, or about G2A's shady business, the comments on Polish websites are 99% pro G2A and extremely hateful and aggressive towards anyone speaking against it.
Out of curiosity - where did you get that impression? I'm checking from time to time more active polish forums (about discounts etc, like lowcy gier) and G2A seems to have quite a lot of both opponents and followers... And people who are rather neutral (or are using its services but not feeling to defend it when someone critcize its activity).
Post edited August 24, 2019 by MartiusR
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Breja: Yes. G2A is, sadly, a Polish company. And apparently it's absolutely beloved here. Any time there's any new story about indie devs complaining against G2A, or about G2A's shady business, the comments on Polish websites are 99% pro G2A and extremely hateful and aggressive towards anyone speaking against it.
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MartiusR: Out of curiosity - where did you get that impression? I'm checking from time to time more active polish forums (about discounts etc, like lowcy gier) and G2A seems to have quite a lot of both opponents and followers... And people who are rather neutral (or are using its services but not feeling to defend it when someone critcize its activity).
Mostly CD-Action news comments. That's where it's worst by far. Also some topics on Gry Online, though it's more mixed there, and lots of comment sections under articles and news here and there over the years, I can't recall it all now (my visits on polish gaming sites are rather... erratic). I guess it is also probably the case of the fanboys being the loudest group, not necessairly the largest. Sort of like the GOG=piracy Steam fanboys aren't the majority of its users.
Post edited August 25, 2019 by Breja
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OldFatGuy: Once it becomes a publicly traded company however, they are required BY LAW to put shareholder return/value as their priority number one.
I've heard of that law but it's an insanely absurd one.
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Cyker: It's like some weird corporate stockholm syndrome or something
That 'Corporate Stockholm Syndrome' is a far more interesting subject to discuss!

To me, it's no wonder that bigger companies get less and less interested in keeping up appearances and acting pro-consumer. Why would they? Pro-consumer means less profit, and if consumers are addicted to the wares you're peddling and will not stop consuming them, why should companies even try to be pro-consumer? I am on the side of the businesses, I think! What's so evil about a company trying to up their profits so that their shareholders are happy and invest even more money in their company? The only thing I hate is companies treating their own employees badly by forcing them to work slave wages and hours; that's just immoral and should be punishable by the law... But laws unfortunately protect companies. So really, if anything, I just hate that companies have so much power in our current form of government. Besides that though, making bad products and treating customers like garbage is completely fine by me.

But consumers? Nobody is forcing them to buy products that are clearly built to screw them out of their money. Why do consumers hyperconsume bad products nowadays? Used to be that consumers were more careful about what they buy, but nowadays? They just buy buy buy buy!! And that's crazy considering we're living in the Information Age where you can read ten reviews in half an hour probably.
Post edited August 25, 2019 by Karterii1993
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Nice! I just got a Minecraft gift code for FREE! :D
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OldFatGuy: Once it becomes a publicly traded company however, they are required BY LAW to put shareholder return/value as their priority number one.
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DubConqueror: I've heard of that law but it's an insanely absurd one.
Almost all laws in this fascist country are absurd. Always for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many. Completely bassackwards and morally indefensible.
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Linko64: If you're going straight to PayPal disputes, that's not exactly treating any company fairly before dropping a take like that.
To be fair OP probably has been burned enough times(being told to wait, told they cannot refund when they can, etc) by so many companies that he auto-defaults to paypal to do the work for him in that regard for some/all disputes. :\
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RedRagan: The irony is that even paypal is getting worse now and we still don't have a good alternative
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richlind33: I stopped using it 5-6 years ago, as it provided no useful benefits. A debit card is all I need, thank you very much. :o
You may know this, but: eBay and some other companies use paypal as a middleman regardless of how you pay, so if one has a 100% boycott of paypal going on they might be using paypal without knowing it.

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DubConqueror: I've heard of that law but it's an insanely absurd one.
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OldFatGuy: Almost all laws in this fascist country are absurd. Always for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many. Completely bassackwards and morally indefensible.
You make some good points but this country isn't fascist(to say such, imo, is to make light of actual fascism and such throughout history).....now some GROUPS pretending to FIGHT fascists, on the other hand.....
Post edited August 25, 2019 by GameRager