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What do you think about? And I don't mean sharing DRM free games in other people's PCs, I mean piracy in general

IMO:

Piracy is OK if you can't get games (like if you live in a place where is hard to get games, they are region locked, etc)

Piracy is not OK if you can get games with no problems but you keep downloading ilegally

What do you think?
I am in the belief that it is fine to pirate a game that is no where to be found. However pirating a game that is easily available is just wrong.
im opposed to piracy in any way shape or form no matter the amount of mental gymnastics a pirate performs to justify their stealing of intellectual property
I don't think it's okay. There are no lack of games out there, so trying to justify piracy by saying, well, I can't get this game so pirating it is okay doesn't wash, IMO. I'm not one to point fingers and vilify people who pirate, but I don't believe it's justified in very many cases.

There's really only one case I can think of offhand where it may be justified: If you're locked out of a product you paid for due to some half-assed DRM scheme, then it's acceptable to find some way of playing the game - but you pay for it first, not after.
Post edited May 12, 2015 by Coelocanth
Piracy is piracy, doesn't matter what circumstances there are revolving the person that is doing that, it's up to your conscience to decide what you're doing is right or wrong.

If the game isn't going to be released on my region and i want to play it then i would use a vpn (if it didn't get me banned) to get the game, if the purchase isn't acessable in any form and the game won't ever be released on my region (ex. japanese games with fan translations) then my conscience would be clean.
I only pirate if I don't know if I can run the game properly and the game doesn't have a demo, so I download it to see if I can even run it at a playable framerate, if I can run it I just delete the pirated version and buy the game, otherwise just remove it and buy it when I have a better computer.(Really, demos should become a standard, or at least a benchmark in some form)

Aside from that, I absolutely hate piracy.
Post edited May 12, 2015 by Tinycloud
Never forget the battery acid in your gog!

Oh wait...
Honestly, I hardly see any reason to pirate these days. It's just inconvenient. I still have a pirated second sight GOG copy though, they took it out from my wishlist without warning so my conscience is at ease. That said, I haven't played it yet; I'm hoping by the time I get around to playing it it will be back on the catalogue.
the franchise really went downhill after the first sequel but, Johnny Depp is entertaining enough to carry the series.
Given the vast amount of good free games in existence, you can't possibly defend piracy in any way.

And people who "live in a place where is hard to get games, they are region locked, etc" should, before pirating a game, at least try to write a letter to their local representatives to fight those 'locks' in order to help the dev to be able to sell their games there.
I don't really have any opinion on piracy itself; I just like saying, "Yaaarrr!" a lot.
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evilnancyreagan: the franchise really went downhill after the first sequel but, Johnny Depp is entertaining enough to carry the series.
And here's why.
Post edited May 12, 2015 by TwoHandedSword
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Tinycloud: I only pirate if I don't know if I can run the game properly and the game doesn't have a demo, so I download it to see if I can even run it at a playable framerate, if I can run it I just delete the pirated version and buy the game, otherwise just remove it and buy it when I have a better computer.(Really, demos should become a standard, or at least a benchmark in some form)
I've done this once. Honestly, the hassle wasn't worth it. Now, if a game doesn't look absolutely excellent I just do something else.

I do believe that it's OK to download a backup copy of something legally purchased. If a person owns a license, which is what all copyright notices say, even on physical books, they own a license and have a right to access the content, which in this day and age includes backups. Some people try to say that the customer only owns a copy. But customers can format shift or backup that copy, at least in the US. So it all comes down to the same thing - people with a valid license can have backup copies.
Post edited May 12, 2015 by Gilozard
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TwoHandedSword: And here's why.
if you're gonna drop a trope card on PotC, we can certainly find one more distinctive

sequelitis is endemic of nearly all media these days

we can start off slow with this
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Potzato: Given the vast amount of good free games in existence, you can't possibly defend piracy in any way.

And people who "live in a place where is hard to get games, they are region locked, etc" should, before pirating a game, at least try to write a letter to their local representatives to fight those 'locks' in order to help the dev to be able to sell their games there.
There's no right to have the latest games, and most piracy is just getting things without paying for them. But the larger issues around piracy - intellectual property law and preserving culture - suggest that piracy is not nearly the one-sided issue that many large corporations would have consumers believe.

There are many good legal arguments that the current state of copyright law contradicts basic consumer rights. There are also many economic reasons to think that current copyright law is harmful to business and consumers, and many social and cultural reasons to believe that current copyright law is harmful to culture and society.

For example, most literary works in the US from the mid 1900s on are locked up due to copyright law. That's a huge part of our culture behind legal barriers. Leaving aside the problems it causes in creating new work - people get sued if their music/book/whatever is too similar to something a holding company owns from previous decades, this is why we keep seeing licensed sequels and not new works - I think it's part of the huge social problems we have in the US. If people are raised on Shakespeare, Austen and books from the 1920s, that's the cultural baseline and they're going to re-enact the social issues from the 1920s. Well, what do you know, we're still fighting the same battles over women's rights, racial equality, police brutality, etc.

In IT, copyright has caused huge issues with patent troll law firms extorting money from small businesses and copyright lawsuits soaking up billions of dollars, not to mention the major interoperability and security problems that stem from blackbox programs. Our infrastructure is weak in part because much of it is locked behind legal barriers and ignored. When people try to improve security, they're threatened with lawsuits and jail time for violating copyright law. Even security researchers at universities have to worry about this, and it hampers security research tremendously because no one will publish findings for fear of reprisal.
Post edited May 12, 2015 by Gilozard
Pirates no longer wear eye patches, have peg legs, and parrots on their shoulders. Now they have automatic weapons. I think piracy was cooler back in the day. Now it's no longer cool, just rude.