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Posted December 03, 2019
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GameRager: Not on the weekend when staff weren't here and we had 30+ threads of spam flooding the first page of the forums for several days at a time.
They still couldn't post links even if the threads flooded the forum. I was there.
And I was there when the really big spam wave hit a few years back. Then it was 20+ pages, not threads, of spam, hitting not only General, but also the game forums. In fact, back then I wrote the scripts to mass downvote and report threads. And I those have - I have to regret to say - later been used to target real users.
Posted December 03, 2019
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richlind33: "Bad" is subjective, so unless you're neutral re negative rep and low-rated posts, I think an ignore function is a hell of a lot fairer.
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GameRager: 1. You likely know what I meant by bad/that I meant what one finds bad. ;) 2. It encourages weakness so I am against pushing people to use it, just as I am against doctors handing out some things like anti-biotics like candy. :)
Who said anything about "pushing people to use it"?
Posted December 03, 2019
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richlind33: "Bad" is subjective, so unless you're neutral re negative rep and low-rated posts, I think an ignore function is a hell of a lot fairer.
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GameRager: 2. It encourages weakness so I am against pushing people to use it, just as I am against doctors handing out some things like anti-biotics like candy. :)
It can also encourage efficiency.
Posted December 03, 2019
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toxicTom: They still couldn't post links even if the threads flooded the forum. I was there.
It still is somewhat bothersome if the threads clog the forum first page for however long, until gog clears them out that is(or users do via the report spam button)....even if they cannot post links.

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toxicTom: And I was there when the really big spam wave hit a few years back. Then it was 20+ pages, not threads, of spam, hitting not only General, but also the game forums.
Damn, that sounds like it was hell......

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toxicTom: In fact, back then I wrote the scripts to mass downvote and report threads. And I those have - I have to regret to say - later been used to target real users.
Some people's inventions are often used for reasons one doesn't intend & all too often, sadly.
Posted December 03, 2019
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richlind33: We crossed that bridge a long, long time ago. Having an ignore function is absolutely essential, unless you're willing to ban people for being immature -- which would probably reduce the traffic so much that you'd have to ask if it's worth the trouble of having a discussion forum.
Yeah well. The old dilemma: Let people fortify their filter bubbles (ignore function, jerkmuter) or risk open conflict. I'm all for the latter, but I can understand a storefront not sharing this position ;-)
Posted December 03, 2019
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Zrevnur: Which "other methods"? Example: If someone uses vulgar language and I dont like it then I dont really see any "other methods" which I would expect to work.
I just hide each post by low rating, and it works for most bad posts....also some people sometimes make good posts so I don't usually feel the need or want to ignore most people completely.

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Zrevnur: Speaking for myself: I would be very unlikely to use such a tool due to security threat. You have to trust the author or if its open source check it yourself. That's a major drawback.
Fair enough, but many likely would be ok with using such or be cautious yet still be ok with using such once verified....so that reason doesn't seem to fit most people, though I can see how it would fit some.

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Zrevnur: For most ppl in this situation however the biggest drawback is that they probably don't know such a tool even exists if it is not part of the forum itself. I am more talking about ppl who aren't familiar with the forum and get a bad "second impression" than some old regulars who happened to collect a personal enemy whom they want to make go away.
Fair enough, but with a little work some could easily search up for such tools or ask others for such via a question thread....one just has to make the effort to learn of such, in many cases.

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richlind33: Who said anything about "pushing people to use it"?
I never said you or anyone said that, I was just saying in general/musing on it/etc.
Post edited December 03, 2019 by GameRager
Posted December 03, 2019
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GameRager: Damn, that sounds like it was hell......
Well it was. But also fun. Back then the community was still intact:
We are under attack thread:
"Help, there are 15 pages of spam in the BG forum!!"
"New 10 pages in General!"
10 people replying (day and night)
"I'm on it!"

The thread should still be around, buried somewhere in the history of the forums...
Posted December 03, 2019
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Zrevnur: It can also encourage efficiency.
Efficiency/things that breeds/breed too much weakness to me is a bad thing...one gets a bit of a good thing by creating a bad thing(in this case the higher likelihood of walling one's self off from most others at any minor slight)

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toxicTom: Well it was. But also fun. Back then the community was still intact:
We are under attack thread:
"Help, there are 15 pages of spam in the BG forum!!"
"New 10 pages in General!"
10 people replying (day and night)
"I'm on it!"

The thread should still be around, buried somewhere in the history of the forums...
So it had some good effect(it rallied the users together to fight a common "foe")? That is nice to hear, at least.....and as with other things it helps build a site's "Lore" a bit, for good or ill.
Post edited December 03, 2019 by GameRager
Posted December 04, 2019
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Zrevnur: Which "other methods"? Example: If someone uses vulgar language and I dont like it then I dont really see any "other methods" which I would expect to work.
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GameRager: I just hide each post by low rating, and it works for most bad posts....also some people sometimes make good posts so I don't usually feel the need or want to ignore most people completely.
If I want to have a nice conversation with nice people in "Ponyland World" without vulgar language (which is an exaggeration of what I meant) then your method doesnt work - I will still be constantly confronted with the undesired vulgar language. If however I can permanently make offenders go away (and it works on quoted text too) then I get my desired nice relaxing environment.
Or rephrasing: This is a lot about what you want from being in the forum. If you want to confront the world then you may be opposed to ignore functions and such. However if you want to escape the bad world and dont want "malcontents" to mess up your experience then ignore functions (or some such) are necessary.

My point here is that giving options lets people have what they want, whether its this or that.
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Zrevnur: It can also encourage efficiency.
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GameRager: Efficiency/things that breeds/breed too much weakness to me is a bad thing...one gets a bit of a good thing by creating a bad thing(in this case the higher likelihood of walling one's self off from most others at any minor slight)
See my other response about why-people-are-in-the-forum-and-what-they-want.
Post edited December 04, 2019 by Zrevnur
Posted December 04, 2019
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GameRager: So it had some good effect(it rallied the users together to fight a common "foe")?
Are YOU ready to take the fight to the Baba-Ji scourge?! Then join today! Remember, service guarantees citizenship!
Posted December 04, 2019
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StationaryNomad: Are YOU ready to take the fight to the Baba-Ji scourge?! Then join today! Remember, service guarantees citizenship!
YMMD :D
Posted December 04, 2019
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Zrevnur: If I want to have a nice conversation with nice people in "Ponyland World" without vulgar language (which is an exaggeration of what I meant) then your method doesnt work - I will still be constantly confronted with the undesired vulgar language. If however I can permanently make offenders go away (and it works on quoted text too) then I get my desired nice relaxing environment.
It still works for a good number of cases, though.

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Zrevnur: Or rephrasing: This is a lot about what you want from being in the forum. If you want to confront the world then you may be opposed to ignore functions and such. However if you want to escape the bad world and dont want "malcontents" to mess up your experience then ignore functions (or some such) are necessary.
True, I was mainly just spitballing/musing in general on how such tools weaken people to varying degrees(but are also useful for some others).

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Zrevnur: My point here is that giving options lets people have what they want, whether its this or that.
Giving people options, to me, seems fine.

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StationaryNomad: Are YOU ready to take the fight to the Baba-Ji scourge?! Then join today! Remember, service guarantees citizenship!
I'm from the gog forums and I say ban em** all!

(**=spammers)

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StationaryNomad: Are YOU ready to take the fight to the Baba-Ji scourge?! Then join today! Remember, service guarantees citizenship!
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toxicTom: YMMD :D
Would you like to know more?
Post edited December 04, 2019 by GameRager
Posted December 04, 2019
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You just don't have enough sense to quit with the idiotic replies.
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GameRager: Again, are you so upset TinyE is gone you feel the need to pick on others for sport?
(You would constantly complain about him doing such to you, and now you seem to be okay with doing it to others)

Why not tape a pic of him to a punching bag and hit it a few times to calm down if you need to relieve stress?

(Also didn't you ask me not to reply to you? Why reply to me, then?)
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As for your reply: Why not tell me how i'm being "idiotic"/etc so I can counter your argument better....or can you not say much about my posts beyond "they're dumb"?
Thanks for the laughs.
Posted December 04, 2019
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toxicTom: They still couldn't post links even if the threads flooded the forum. I was there.
Maybe I am missing something here but I think I saw you post something similar a few times. What is the big deal about whether or not they can post links? To me it seems the flooding is the main problem, not whether or not any of it is clickable. Now if the argument is that there would be even more spam topics if the spammer could post links, I can understand. Also, obviously it would not be a good look for GOG if an honest user goes on the forum and inadvertently clicks a spammed link that leads to some type of psuedo-malware (hence my desire to reduce the size of the Galaxy logo at the bottom of the page, hey oh!). But kidding aside is it really any better of a look if an honest user goes and uses the Whatsapp number given by a spammer?
Posted December 04, 2019
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rjbuffchix: Also, obviously it would not be a good look for GOG if an honest user goes on the forum and inadvertently clicks a spammed link that leads to some type of psuedo-malware (hence my desire to reduce the size of the Galaxy logo at the bottom of the page, hey oh!).
I just made it (the Galaxy button at the bottom) go away with Ublock "Block Element..." function.

Edit: This also works (very easily once the function is understood) on the https://www.gog.com/account page: No more Galaxy download buttons before the offline installers!
Post edited December 04, 2019 by Zrevnur
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