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Primo_Victoria: [...]
I honestly don't understand how nVidia has a 75% market share, while AMD is struggling. Are gamers really that stupid and gullible? Do they really like being lied to this much?

I mean, AMD has had some fuck ups in the past too, no doubt about that, but the shit nVidia is doing at the moment is incredible. And consumers don't seem to care, so why should nVidia? They basically have a monopoly now, and they can do whatever they want and people will still consider them the !quality" manufacturer.
It's insane.

(And I'm actually kinda pissed that CDPR worked that closely with nVidia, implemented Hairworks instead of TressFX, won't support Mantle or DX12, told people that it's nVidias responsibility to make their game run properly on AMD cards, all while still insisting that they are a consumer friendly developer.)
I have an AMD 7950 3 GB card, and with the latest game patch and latest drivers the game runs great. I do have the hair thing turned off. My settings are between high and ultra. I'm getting 45-60 fps capped at 60.
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Primo_Victoria: [...]
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Fesin: I honestly don't understand how nVidia has a 75% market share, while AMD is struggling. Are gamers really that stupid and gullible? Do they really like being lied to this much?

I mean, AMD has had some fuck ups in the past too, no doubt about that, but the shit nVidia is doing at the moment is incredible. And consumers don't seem to care, so why should nVidia? They basically have a monopoly now, and they can do whatever they want and people will still consider them the !quality" manufacturer.
It's insane.

(And I'm actually kinda pissed that CDPR worked that closely with nVidia, implemented Hairworks instead of TressFX, won't support Mantle or DX12, told people that it's nVidias responsibility to make their game run properly on AMD cards, all while still insisting that they are a consumer friendly developer.)
Yes, I'm disappointed too, and I think developers are not criticized enough for that behaviour. Project CARS and TW3 came out at about the same time and they have Nvidia problems. I guess it will be similar for Batman.

Looking at market shares and TW3 performance issues, it looks like Nvidia is competing against its own products more than with AMD. The "bad drivers, heat, lower performance" skit is hurting AMD and giving a free pass to Nvidia.

I really don't want to go APU if AMD stops making GPUs, but I think it might be inevitable in the next few years unless customers get smarter.
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Primo_Victoria: Yes, I'm disappointed too, and I think developers are not criticized enough for that behaviour. Project CARS and TW3 came out at about the same time and they have Nvidia problems. I guess it will be similar for Batman.

Looking at market shares and TW3 performance issues, it looks like Nvidia is competing against its own products more than with AMD. The "bad drivers, heat, lower performance" skit is hurting AMD and giving a free pass to Nvidia.

I really don't want to go APU if AMD stops making GPUs, but I think it might be inevitable in the next few years unless customers get smarter.
If AMD stopped producing GPUs it would be fucking apocalyptic. No other company would ever be able to catch up to the years of driver development AMD and nVidia have done. nVidia would have an absolute, unbeatable monopoly and could do literally anything they wanted to. And just look at what they're doing when they at least have a weak competitor.
That's a scenario that really scares me.

But I guess if AMD goes bankrupt, somebody would buy their GPU department. Intel, maybe.

APUs I find actually quite interesting, but the ones AMD released are still pretty weak. They actually have pretty powerful blueprints from the PS4 and Xbone lying around, I wonder why they don't release something similar for PCs.
Post edited June 01, 2015 by Fesin
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Primo_Victoria: Yes, I'm disappointed too, and I think developers are not criticized enough for that behaviour. Project CARS and TW3 came out at about the same time and they have Nvidia problems. I guess it will be similar for Batman.

Looking at market shares and TW3 performance issues, it looks like Nvidia is competing against its own products more than with AMD. The "bad drivers, heat, lower performance" skit is hurting AMD and giving a free pass to Nvidia.

I really don't want to go APU if AMD stops making GPUs, but I think it might be inevitable in the next few years unless customers get smarter.
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Fesin: If AMD stopped producing GPUs it would be fucking apocalyptic. No other company would ever be able to catch up to the years of driver development AMD and nVidia have done. nVidia would have an absolute, unbeatable monopoly and could do literally anything they wanted to. And just look at what they're doing when they at least have a weak competitor.
That's a scenario that really scares me.

But I guess if AMD goes bankrupt, somebody would buy their GPU department. Intel, maybe.

APUs I find actually quite interesting, but the ones AMD released are still pretty weak. They actually have pretty powerful blueprints from the PS$ and Xbone lying around, I wonder why they don't release something similar for PCs.
Maybe on the next architecture. FM2+ is old, and the new A10-7870K is not really much of a step forward. A few new GPUs this year, new CPUs next year, and then APUs?

Next year is so far away.