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MMO's.. before they were catered to a casual audience. I liked it when there was a cost and benefit analysis to your classes. In other words, abilities demanded magic points or other resources where you had to specifically think of when to apply them beforing pulling the next pack and moving on to other enemies.

Generally speaking, I don't have much time for them anymore but they're gone for good now. I definitely enjoy older RPG's with those mechanics now.
Multiplayer in Far Cry Instincts and Far Cry 2 on Xbox 360 when it still thrived. Was fun to make maps and deathmatch on them or play the myriad of obstacle course maps. I'm pretty sure Ubisoft has shut down the servers for every other platform, but unsure if the Xbox ones are still up just due to the nature of Xbox Live servers mostly being separate? Not sure, not that anyone's actually playing those games anymore anyway.
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Vikk96: MMO's.. before they were catered to a casual audience. I liked it when there was a cost and benefit analysis to your classes. In other words, abilities demanded magic points or other resources where you had to specifically think of when to apply them beforing pulling the next pack and moving on to other enemies.

Generally speaking, I don't have much time for them anymore but they're gone for good now. I definitely enjoy older RPG's with those mechanics now.
Are we talking MUDs, or something more along the lines of Final Fantasy 11?
Souls-Players. Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, Bloodborne, Elden Ring, Sekiro.
This community has been great for me.

PC Master Race
Getting aa good PC to experience games the way they were meant to be experienced.

Emulation Community
I love playing my old games again, even if I no longer have working hardware.
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paladin181: Souls-Players. Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, Bloodborne, Elden Ring, Sekiro.
This community has been great for me.

PC Master Race
Getting aa good PC to experience games the way they were meant to be experienced.

Emulation Community
I love playing my old games again, even if I no longer have working hardware.
You might want to explain these out a bit; as there doesn't appear to be a tense here.
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Darvond: You might want to explain these out a bit; as there doesn't appear to be a tense here.
I don't understand what you mean...? I am, and have been for a long time, a member of these subgroups of gaming.

Souls-players has been a community since about 2010, and people often malign the community for its attitudes, but the reality is, most people just don't get it. Originally, when people would say "git gud" it wasn't about being elite, it was actually the advice: don't complain about the game, continue to learn and evolve to get better. Many players found the games to be frustratingly hard, and rather than adapt, started demanding the games be made easier and such on the discussion boards, which becomes tiresome and annoying. Accept that not everything is for you, and move on, rather than complain about things being too hard. This mind-set has changed the way I deal with my everyday life as well, and I've been happier ever since I started doing so.

PC Master Race is a joke. It's more like PC Enthusiasts. I enjoy building out PCs and tweaking my PC devices to get the most out of them (which is why I love my new Steam Deck). I love tweaking and modifying the hardware and software to bend to my will. It's almost the exact opposite of the above, except rather than demand that someone change something for me, I am adapting it to my needs myself. It is a new type of challenge to try and get good performance out of suboptimal equipment, and a joy to get high end equipment to compare it to. You don't get those freedoms most of the time with consoles (though I am about to break open one of my PS4s and play with it).

Emulation community: I love playing my console games. I had a ton of them. But I no longer have a working Nintendo Entertainment System, Sega Genesis, Super NES, Nintendo Gameboy, Nintendo 64, Sony Playstation, Sony PS2, etc. to game on. So I have gotten emulators to play my favorite games from those eras.

Does that meet your needs for explanation?
Any multiplayer with a dedicated server of regulars and a close knit community.
Even if some random jumped in and behaved like a moron there was the option to ''mute'' that player. With luck he would see how normal people play and actually learn to talk normal. Otherwise -- you are free to play, but keep your mouth shut.

Enemy Territory and my country's PvPGN Warcraft3 server in my case.

There are other subcultures still going strong, but I actually started typing them, and when I came at number 5 I decided not to name them - seing how I might have played the game of said niche, but was never really part of it. :/

The feeling with playing with a handful of regulars and even consider going to a LAN, though -- oh hell yeah! =)
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paladin181: Does that meet your needs for explanation?
Yes, those do work fine as explanations, but the issue I'd say is that...

Neopets, for example doesn't exist in the form I'd consider to still be alive. The Paranoia Live forums are permanently offline. You can still emulate, and PC gaming is still alive as ever?
The MGR and Souls community is pretty fun. Warhammer is great too.
The Amiga time of course and having had a classic Pong console.

Star Wars Galaxies, nothing ever since came close.

The Voodoo graphics time, it started a new era.

Also the time when Internet became a thing, at the same time mods for games became popular and we could follow closely the development of games on forums. We had a large community for Jedi Knight for example.

First popular coop-games. Playing Doom together on 2 computers connected through a serial cable on the roof of our dorm ... ace
As previously mentioned, in-person LAN. Hotseat with 2 controllers on a shared screen is pretty close, but having two completely separate displays expands on the possibilities.

Also, massive multiplayer text-based browser games (Utopia in my case). I wouldn't have the time to invest in a game like that anymore, but I'm glad I did before I started my career. Something magical about having a weird emergent political system emerge within a group of around 25 players, the uneasy diplomacy that takes place between such groups of players and the geek appeal of analyzing number-based mechanics to determine a winning group strategy (with the rules changing, sometimes dramatically, every couple of months). Compared to that, simpler massive multiplayer games like WoW, while more impressive to look at and more approachable, just feel hollow and empty.
Post edited November 26, 2022 by Magnitus
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paladin181: Does that meet your needs for explanation?
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Darvond: Yes, those do work fine as explanations, but the issue I'd say is that...

Neopets, for example doesn't exist in the form I'd consider to still be alive. The Paranoia Live forums are permanently offline. You can still emulate, and PC gaming is still alive as ever?
You didn't really specify that you meant dead communities. You said subcultures you are glad to have been a part of. That doesn't scream to me that the community needs to have died.
Post edited November 26, 2022 by paladin181
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paladin181: You didn't really specify that you meant dead communities. You said subcultures you are glad to have been a part of. That doesn't scream to me that the community needs to have died.
While true, I can't exactly say that Stendhal is lively and Shareware is all but niche as a concept.
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paladin181: Does that meet your needs for explanation?
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Darvond: Yes, those do work fine as explanations, but the issue I'd say is that...

Neopets, for example doesn't exist in the form I'd consider to still be alive. The Paranoia Live forums are permanently offline. You can still emulate, and PC gaming is still alive as ever?
Sorry to intrude, but I second the roms, emulation and the cousins (overclocking and tweaking) vote
Are those dead? Well, no (I hope), but sometimes it feels like that:
Today, overclocking is to choose from a list of values on the manufacturers overclock config panel... if allowed

Bonus, others controversial:
-MacOS vgaming, Dead or Alive?
-Cloud vgaming? the metaverse? VR? TV/car vgames? Before asking if DoA: Are tangible yet or a long WIP "feel like experiments"?
-Abandonware? Before asking anything: Whata hek exactly is that? :)
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tag+: Sorry to intrude, but I second the roms, emulation and the cousins (overclocking and tweaking) vote
Are those dead? Well, no (I hope), but sometimes it feels like that:
Today, overclocking is to choose from a list of values on the manufacturers overclock config panel... if allowed

Bonus, others controversial:
-MacOS vgaming, Dead or Alive?
-Cloud vgaming? the metaverse? VR? TV/car vgames? Before asking if DoA: Are tangible yet or a long WIP "feel like experiments"?
-Abandonware? Before asking anything: Whata hek exactly is that? :)
They're not dead, but the communities are. As for Tweaking, come join us on the Linux side. You can uninstall the Bootloader. (Well, you can.)

As for MacOS Gaming: I make no guarantees that APple won't do what Apple has done and make some arbitrary cutoff, again.
How about VCR games? :p
Abandonware is basically grayware piracy; basically it means "Software that nobody cares enough to snipe out of the air."