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This post seemed kind of interesting and I actually had this site recommended to me by a few people in the past, so here's my type, I guess: https://www.16personalities.com/intp-personality
INTJ FTW.
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hedwards: The main difference is that you'd have more Nazis than the current world does. A huge chunk of the basis of Nazism was the "logical" conclusion that certain types of people need to be removed from the gene pool by force. A logical conclusion based upon the world, but one that has tremendous moral, ethical and practical issues. But, it follows logically from the understanding of the world that the Nazis had.

EDIT: In case it isn't completely obvious, more Nazis is not a good thing.
First off, that's a stretch(the nazi conclusion) and a tad hyperbolic, imo.

Also imho if one is logical they will not leap to faulty belief based logic like they did(or at least hopefully not).
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hedwards: The main difference is that you'd have more Nazis than the current world does. A huge chunk of the basis of Nazism was the "logical" conclusion that certain types of people need to be removed from the gene pool by force. A logical conclusion based upon the world, but one that has tremendous moral, ethical and practical issues. But, it follows logically from the understanding of the world that the Nazis had.

EDIT: In case it isn't completely obvious, more Nazis is not a good thing.
It's kind of a leap claiming that more logical thinking would lead to an increase of nazis. Those who are intelligent can rationalize or argue anything, be it good or bad, right or wrong. It doesn't take logic for people to convince themselves that morally corrupt or bad ideas are good though.
Depends on my current mood. I think the last two times I did the test, 16personalities said INTJ and INFP. Which probably means I'm some kind of invertebrate.
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kai2: If you don't know your MB personality type, there are a few places online that you can take an abbreviated form of the test for free. Personally, I've found it helpful in both understanding myself and in career paths.

I am an

INFJ
You know, I got marked as an INFJ too, and here's what I learned about our type.
We love being special, which is why we love the Myers-Briggs test that tells us that we are uber-special. I typed in INFJ on YouTube once, and I got vlog type videos by INFJs who explain why they are so special, and why you should treat them a certain way. Then I went on forums, some were even INFJ-specific forums (?! how pretentious can you get ?!) and found that everyone there thinks they are super special.

Jung, who started the typology test to some extent (I believe it was three letters that he came up with?) is believed to have been an INFJ by today's definition, which would make this whole thing very... Funny, in some ways.

For there supposedly only being so few INFJs, I feel like there are quite a few out there, almost around every corner there's someone who's like "Hey what's your type? Mine is INFJ!". Everyone who's asked me to take it was an INFJ, including you.

Does that make sense? I think this test is a joke, especially since it pretty much defines the INFJ as the apex in many ways, I feel like the INFJ type has the fewest faults, and the faults seem charming when you read them. I'd say this test is very biased towards 'us' or whatever. It's a bit shit really, from what I am seeing. My favorite part of the description you posted is "INFJs enjoy thinking about deep topics and contemplating the meaning of life". Come on, doesn't that sound a little elitist?! Don't you feel a little bit catered to, a little bit uncomfortable that someone's putting you on such an intellectual pedestal? :D Do you think we really are so much more inclined toward DEEEEEEP questions, unlike those filthy non-INFJs? It's ridiculous!!!
Post edited July 22, 2019 by Karterii1993
You know Hitler was an INFJ too.
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kai2: If you don't know your MB personality type, there are a few places online that you can take an abbreviated form of the test for free. Personally, I've found it helpful in both understanding myself and in career paths.

I am an

INFJ
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Karterii1993: You know, I got marked as an INFJ too, and here's what I learned about our type.
We love being special, which is why we love the Myers-Briggs test that tells us that we are uber-special. I typed in INFJ on YouTube once, and I got vlog type videos by INFJs who explain why they are so special, and why you should treat them a certain way. Then I went on forums, some were even INFJ-specific forums (?! how pretentious can you get ?!) and found that everyone there thinks they are super special.

Jung, who started the typology test to some extent (I believe it was three letters that he came up with?) is believed to have been an INFJ by today's definition, which would make this whole thing very... Funny, in some ways.

For there supposedly only being so few INFJs, I feel like there are quite a few out there, almost around every corner there's someone who's like "Hey what's your type? Mine is INFJ!". Everyone who's asked me to take it was an INFJ, including you.

Does that make sense? I think this test is a joke, especially since it pretty much defines the INFJ as the apex in many ways, I feel like the INFJ type has the fewest faults, and the faults seem charming when you read them. I'd say this test is very biased towards 'us' or whatever. It's a bit shit really, from what I am seeing. My favorite part of the description you posted is "INFJs enjoy thinking about deep topics and contemplating the meaning of life". Come on, doesn't that sound a little elitist?! Don't you feel a little bit catered to, a little bit uncomfortable that someone's putting you on such an intellectual pedestal? :D Do you think we really are so much more inclined toward DEEEEEEP questions, unlike those filthy non-INFJs? It's ridiculous!!!
I think you're projecting.
Post edited July 22, 2019 by kai2
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kai2: I think you're projecting.
I dare you to type in "Facts about INFJ" on YouTube and see for yourself.
I think you'll get pretty unsettled at the amount of ego and self-aggrandizing that's going on there.
After watching those people and reading stuff from the INFJ forums I can safely say that's what you're getting with the oh-so-amazing, special 1% of the population INFJ type.

It's top shelf cringe, absolutely disgusting that people can get caught up that much in themselves and dare to post their thoughts about 'their type' like that on YouTube. Quite unlike the 'introverted' 'always striving to be perfect' 'never let's people get too close' INFJ that's described in all these texts.

I mean, these texts describe INFJs as almost Jesus-like figures of empathy with Einsteinian minds and the leadership qualities of a Martin Luther King, and people read this stuff and can unironically say "Yeah, that sounds like me". That's a disgusting amount of arrogance right there, to think you're THAT great, no? I am telling you, these typologies do nothing but boost people's egos to an absurd amount.
Post edited July 23, 2019 by Karterii1993
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hedwards: The main difference is that you'd have more Nazis than the current world does. A huge chunk of the basis of Nazism was the "logical" conclusion that certain types of people need to be removed from the gene pool by force. A logical conclusion based upon the world, but one that has tremendous moral, ethical and practical issues. But, it follows logically from the understanding of the world that the Nazis had.

EDIT: In case it isn't completely obvious, more Nazis is not a good thing.
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GameRager: First off, that's a stretch(the nazi conclusion) and a tad hyperbolic, imo.

Also imho if one is logical they will not leap to faulty belief based logic like they did(or at least hopefully not).
Not really, logic doesn't concern itself with such things. The holocaust was a highly organized highly logical affair, if you accept the idea that forced, retroactive eugenics is OK.

That's something that inevitably happens when you place logic too far above emotional reasoning and a genuine understanding of other people. It's logical for people to be denied healthcare based on inability to pay or because they deserve the consequences of poor decision making. The deaths from that in the US aren't on the scale of the holocaust, but the difference is much smaller than we should be comfortable with.
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hedwards: The main difference is that you'd have more Nazis than the current world does. A huge chunk of the basis of Nazism was the "logical" conclusion that certain types of people need to be removed from the gene pool by force. A logical conclusion based upon the world, but one that has tremendous moral, ethical and practical issues. But, it follows logically from the understanding of the world that the Nazis had.

EDIT: In case it isn't completely obvious, more Nazis is not a good thing.
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DadJoke007: It's kind of a leap claiming that more logical thinking would lead to an increase of nazis. Those who are intelligent can rationalize or argue anything, be it good or bad, right or wrong. It doesn't take logic for people to convince themselves that morally corrupt or bad ideas are good though.
Not really. The highly intelligent are just as prone to fallacious thinking as the rest of the population. What's more, when the highly intelligent make a mistake, it's less likely to be caught. And they're more likely to be persuasive when selling the plan.

What precisely do you think the basis of rhetoric is? Here's a hint, it's the same people who gave us that that gave us most of the rules we still use for logic. These groups that promote hate are highly logical once you buy into the premise that there's an upcoming race war or that you're not getting what you need because group X is taking your jobs.

This kind of ignorance about how these groups spread is a large part of why they will continue to be a problem into the future. These are not typically stupid people, they're people who have stupid beliefs.
Post edited July 22, 2019 by hedwards
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hedwards: Not really. The highly intelligent are just as prone to fallacious thinking as the rest of the population. What's more, when the highly intelligent make a mistake, it's less likely to be caught. And they're more likely to be persuasive when selling the plan.

What precisely do you think the basis of rhetoric is? Here's a hint, it's the same people who gave us that that gave us most of the rules we still use for logic. These groups that promote hate are highly logical once you buy into the premise that there's an upcoming race war or that you're not getting what you need because group X is taking your jobs.

This kind of ignorance about how these groups spread is a large part of why they will continue to be a problem into the future. These are not typically stupid people, they're people who have stupid beliefs.
It's not that I don't understand your point, I understand it and I don't agree since you make tons of weird assumptions on which you build your argument upon. Your explanations are unnecessary.
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kai2: I think you're projecting.
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Karterii1993: I dare you to type in "Facts about INFJ" on YouTube and see for yourself :)
I think you'll get pretty unsettled at the amount of ego and self-aggrandizing that's going on there.
After watching those people and reading stuff from the INFJ forums I can safely say that's what you're getting with the oh-so-amazing, special 1% of the population INFJ type.

It's top shelf cringe, absolutely disgusting that people can get caught up that much in themselves and dare to post their thoughts about 'their type' like that on YouTube. Quite unlike the 'introverted' 'always striving to be perfect' 'never let's people get too close' INFJ that's described in all these texts.

I mean, these texts describe INFJs as almost Jesus-like figures of empathy with Einsteinian minds and the leadership qualities of a Martin Luther King, and people read this stuff and can unironically say "Yeah, that sounds like me". That's a disgusting amount of arrogance right there, to think you're THAT great, no? I am telling you, these typologies do nothing but boost people's egos to an absurd amount.
Again, you are projecting. There is no magical -- or perfect -- personality type. We're all human with the requisite faults. If you read any of the literature around the MB test you'd see that reflected.

I don't care what others do in herds... hooliganism... bigotry... etc. The fact that idiots on the internet are searching for every chance to "congregate" and declare their superiority is nothing new... and certainly has nothing to do with the MB test. It has to do with arrogant idiots being arrogant idiots. Period.

You're blaming a simple typology test for arrogant idiots on the internet... projecting.

If you want to stop arrogant idiots from congregating on the internet and declaring their superiority over stupid things... might unfortunately have to start with videogames (hack!). See my point?
Post edited July 22, 2019 by kai2
Don't mind me, just raising an eyebrow at the amount of hate and assumptions and projections here starting from somebody just mentioning a personality test...
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kai2: Again, you are projecting. There is no magical -- or perfect -- personality type. We're all human with the requisite faults. If you read any of the literature around the MB test you'd see that reflected.

I don't care what others do in herds... hooliganism... bigotry... etc. The fact that idiots on the internet are searching for every chance to "congregate" and declare their superiority is nothing new... and certainly has nothing to do with the MB test. It has to do with arrogant idiots being arrogant idiots. Period.

You're blaming a simple typology test for arrogant idiots on the internet... projecting.

If you want to stop arrogant idiots from congregating on the internet and declaring their superiority over stupid things... might unfortunately have to start with videogames (hack!). See my point?
I agree with what you say :)
I just think the MB test actively encourages this behavior by grouping people like this and making people desire to be certain types. I'd say the worst part of the MB is the fact that it shows the 'percentage of people' that have your type, which inevitably makes people wish to be the most special types (those under 5%).

Just as an example, I think Astrology is less damaging because it has no potential for those herds to congregate. Every zodiac is presented as something to be proud of, and nobody ever says "Well, only 2% of the population are pisces, so ... If you aren't a pisces, you're not that special". And yeah, I shouldn't even compare Astrology to this typology test, but since they both deal with 'typifying' people, I thought I can use it as an example.

I mean, I don't know, you are right... I am projecting. I've just grown to hate the MB test because it makes way for this type of behavior at all, but I guess it's like you said... I should just be mad that so many people fall prey to this mentality and that we live in the age of social media where self-aggrandizing and attention-seeking is the name of the game.
Post edited July 23, 2019 by Karterii1993
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hedwards: Not really. The highly intelligent are just as prone to fallacious thinking as the rest of the population. What's more, when the highly intelligent make a mistake, it's less likely to be caught. And they're more likely to be persuasive when selling the plan.

What precisely do you think the basis of rhetoric is? Here's a hint, it's the same people who gave us that that gave us most of the rules we still use for logic. These groups that promote hate are highly logical once you buy into the premise that there's an upcoming race war or that you're not getting what you need because group X is taking your jobs.

This kind of ignorance about how these groups spread is a large part of why they will continue to be a problem into the future. These are not typically stupid people, they're people who have stupid beliefs.
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DadJoke007: It's not that I don't understand your point, I understand it and I don't agree since you make tons of weird assumptions on which you build your argument upon. Your explanations are unnecessary.
EDIT: If you think I'm making weird assumptions, then you clearly didn't understand what I posted. They're all logical extensions of what we observe in the real world.
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Cavalary: Don't mind me, just raising an eyebrow at the amount of hate and assumptions and projections here starting from somebody just mentioning a personality test...
Yeah well, it's rather unfortunate that this is a bit of a holy war. The test itself is rather banal and harmless in my experience. I haven't encountered it being used to make any real decisions for people. I've seen people using it to try and figure out what they want to do, but that's the extent of it.
Post edited July 23, 2019 by hedwards