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timppu: Dolph Lundgren was perfect for the role even without a skull T-shirt, with his constant "The f*ck I care? Kill me already."-attitude and face.
I absolutely agree. I'm not too fond of the Punisher in general, but I really liked that movie and how Lundgren portrayed him as a really messed up, dead inside guy. It's the only way to make the character actually work, as opposed to any more traditional action hero good guy approach.
I enjoy many of the fantasy movies that were made in the early eighties. Conan was the most well known and highest rated among them but hardly anyone today knows movies like Krull, The Archer: Fugitive from the Empire, Dragonslayer, Deathstalker, The Beastmaster, Ladyhawke, ...
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Geralt_of_Rivia: I enjoy many of the fantasy movies that were made in the early eighties. Conan was the most well known and highest rated among them but hardly anyone today knows movies like Krull, The Archer: Fugitive from the Empire, Dragonslayer, Deathstalker, The Beastmaster, Ladyhawke, ...
The Sword & The Sorcerer was another great one. I'm even fond of Red Sonja to a degree. The acting is unfortunately terrible for the most part, but man, the music, sets and costumes are really something.

But Ladyhawke is on a different level. The others mentioned are various flavours of B-movie fan, but Ladyhawke's a legit great film, up there with Willow and other top quality fantasy films of the decade like The Princess Bride, Legend, Dark Crystal etc.

There's actually a Deathstalker remake coming out this year, but I doubt it will live up to the original. That whole series was wild, how it changed from one movie to the next. Deathstalker 2 was some crazy nonsense.

You probably know this one, but just in case: here's Black Angel, a fantasy short from 1980 released in some cinemas in conjunction with Empire Strikes Back.
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Atlo: Didn't even know there's a game set in that universe!
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vv221: Did you know that the film itself is an adaptation of a series of comic books by Enki Bilal?
If you have not read them yet, they are really worth your time!
Technically - yes.
The problem(s) are:
1.) The originals are in French and I, unfortunately, cannot read French. :< (There are assorted translated works thankfully.)
2.) Finding them. I did a cursory search and came upon some ''Here are examples of Enki Bilal's artwork, uncatagorized.'' Finding a translated version of Immortel would take some effort.

Though there is an option of ordering a hardcover book (I think), I'm not convinced if I'm really that into it... =)

Will have to re-check once I finish the game and re-watch the movie.

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The game:
The mouse is jittery, which is slightly annoying, but the game nails the atmosphere perfectly.
The gameplay - not great, not terrible.
4.3 on IMDB for Wing Commander is a crime, but seems it has been down voted lately; I distinctly remember it was higher not that long ago. Same goes for other movies in the last 10-15 years.

In any case, I dare say that WC is among the best sci-fi action movies out there (and that's coming from someone who has zero relation to the games).

Howard The Duck (1986)
Jason X (2001)
Trucks (1997) - It's better and scarier than the Maximum Overdrive from 1986 which was a little too over the top, especially the overuse of music for every little thing. It also slightly introduced the possibilities for factions at the end.

I was tempted to put in Bio-Dome instead of Trucks, but yeah...
Galaxy Quest - Both a parody and a homage to Star Trek. IMHO far better than any original Star Trek movie.

Blast from the Past - Off all scales amazing acting from everyone. Very funny too.

Wedding Singer - The AFAIK only good Adam Sandler movie, though I havent watched them all. It doesnt have his "humor". Its a very funny movie though. And his character is actually likeable, too.






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timppu: Wing Commander (1999).
I actually watched that one three times in cinema, back in the day.

In the empty cinema, I should stress.
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timppu: Wing Commander (1999).
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Geromino: I actually watched that one three times in cinema, back in the day.
In the empty cinema, I should stress.
I went to see it at the cinema as well, but only once, sorry. :(

I admit my main motivation was formerly being a big fan of the early Wing Commander games. In the end I didn't mind that much even if the movie wasn't quite faithful to the games, with rubber-skin Kilrathis and whatnot.

Now I must admit though that I don't remember that much of its story either, maybe I should rewatch it. I just remember certain scenes from the movie, it's been awhile.

Which reminds me, two days ago I saw one of my all time favorites, The Usual Suspects (1995). It has been probably (over) two decades when I saw it the last time (not at the cinema, but either VHS or DVD or TV).

I recall thinking back then it it the coolest and best crime movie ever, so I was excited to see it again. It was... eerrgh, I don't know... Something is off with the movie now? The actors, even Kevin Spacey, seem kinda wooden, and the movie feels pretentious now. Oh damn, I must stop watching my old favorite movies and just remember them as the coolest movies ever.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114814/

Maybe I was too young back then and thought shit is cool.
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Not related, but lately it has become harder for me to watch some movies I used to like, due to what has happened later to their actors. That's rather odd.

Some such actors are Bruce Willis, Robin Williams and Philip Seymour Hoffman. I just get overly sad nowadays when I see any of their movies, and keep thinking of what (has) happened to them.

I dunno why some actor dying etc. didn't affect me the same way earlier, maybe it is because one is becoming older as well and fearing death more and more, day and night, in the shower or taking a dump, can't get my head away from death.

If I see any Bruce Willis movies around 2000 or later, I keep thinking "Did he know and feel already back then he has some serious health problems incoming?" etc., and same for e.g. Robin Williams.

Oh well, fortunately I am not an actor...

Oh yeah Robert Redford just died as well, but somehow I don't feel the same way for him. Maybe I think he had a full life and died naturally out of old age or boredom, whichever came first. So yeah, I will not keep thinking of his demise when watching the best movie ever, The Sting.
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Too many to name but here's random 3:

Chernobyl Diaries (2012)

Mutant Chronicles (2008)

The Hot Chick (2002)
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Atlo: Though there is an option of ordering a hardcover book (I think), I'm not convinced if I'm really that into it... =)
I would not advise reading them in any other way than with the actual hardcover books. So if such books is not something you are into, it might be better to skip them altogether.

Here I can find copies for really cheap, but I guess it might not be the same in other countries.
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Geralt_of_Rivia: I enjoy many of the fantasy movies that were made in the early eighties. Conan was the most well known and highest rated among them but hardly anyone today knows movies like Krull, The Archer: Fugitive from the Empire, Dragonslayer, Deathstalker, The Beastmaster, Ladyhawke, ...
It's more of a guilty pleasure for me, but I've always had a soft spot for Krull. It has a lot of good qualities, especially the designs for the bad guys.

Dragonslayer is really good. I have the dvd and watch it fairly regularly. Probably the best dragon ever done in a movie.

Beastmaster I just watched again for the first time in years and it holds up really well. It has a sense of weirdness and horror that most of those 80s sword-and-sorcery movies never understood. We used to have ferrets because of this movie, too.

Ladyhawke is also really good and would probably be an outright classic if it had a better musical score.
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andysheets1975: I also really like Jerry Goldsmith's musical score.
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Breja: I like Goldsmith, but I vastly prefer the US version with the Tangerine Dream soundtrack.

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andysheets1975: The Hidden.
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Breja: I've seen that for the first time recently. Really good film. MacLachlan was great, his performace really helped give genuine gravitas to what might have on premise alone ended up a shlocky B movie. I'm quite envious you got to see it on the big screen.
I probably should rewatch the Tangerine Dream version, but I also like the editing of the Goldsmith version, with stuff like withholding Darkness's appearance until later on.
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Geralt_of_Rivia: I enjoy many of the fantasy movies that were made in the early eighties. Conan was the most well known and highest rated among them but hardly anyone today knows movies like Krull, The Archer: Fugitive from the Empire, Dragonslayer, Deathstalker, The Beastmaster, Ladyhawke, ...
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andysheets1975: It's more of a guilty pleasure for me, but I've always had a soft spot for Krull. It has a lot of good qualities, especially the designs for the bad guys.

Dragonslayer is really good. I have the dvd and watch it fairly regularly. Probably the best dragon ever done in a movie.
Oh yeah, Dragonslayer is great. I love that 80s era of surprisingly dark Disney movies - Black Cauldron, Dragonslayer, Watcher in the Woods, Black Hole...

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andysheets1975: Beastmaster I just watched again for the first time in years and it holds up really well. It has a sense of weirdness and horror that most of those 80s sword-and-sorcery movies never understood.
It's definitely the best of the Conan-likes of that era. It's such a shame the sequel is such an utter facepalm. It's funny how Beastmaster has almost the exact same franchise trajectory as Highlander: cool cult favourite first movie, WTF terrible sequel, "let's ignore the second one and try to salvage the series" third film, tv series with a new actor. Only Beastmaster has the added weirdness of the first film originating as an adaptation of Andre Norton's sci-fi book that has nothing to with sword and sorcery.

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Breja: I like Goldsmith, but I vastly prefer the US version with the Tangerine Dream soundtrack.

I've seen that for the first time recently. Really good film. MacLachlan was great, his performace really helped give genuine gravitas to what might have on premise alone ended up a shlocky B movie. I'm quite envious you got to see it on the big screen.
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andysheets1975: I probably should rewatch the Tangerine Dream version, but I also like the editing of the Goldsmith version, with stuff like withholding Darkness's appearance until later on.
Right, I wish there was a Director's Cut version with the Tangerine Dream soundtrack. Since the theatrical cut exists in two versions I actually forgot the DC doesn't.
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timppu: Dolph Lundgren was perfect for the role even without a skull T-shirt, with his constant "The f*ck I care? Kill me already."-attitude and face.
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Breja: I absolutely agree. I'm not too fond of the Punisher in general, but I really liked that movie and how Lundgren portrayed him as a really messed up, dead inside guy. It's the only way to make the character actually work, as opposed to any more traditional action hero good guy approach.
Exactly, and now that I remember... the protagonist in this movie didn't have any romantic interest either, who would magically heal his broken heart and mind and make him a whole man and a productive member of the society once again... Didn't the newer Punisher movie have something like this?

I guess it got a bit of that when Dolph decided to save some kids (even ones of his enemies), showing some humanity after all.
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timppu: Exactly, and now that I remember... the protagonist in this movie didn't have any romantic interest either, who would magically heal his broken heart and mind and make him a whole man and a productive member of the society once again... Didn't the newer Punisher movie have something like this?
The Thomas Jane movie cast Rebecca Romijn as a character who in the comics was just a mousy plain Jane type who lived in the same building as Frank. There was no romance or even much of any type of connection between them. But Hollywood...
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kai2: What 3 movies do you enjoy that most don't?

1. Hudson Hawk. IMO this movie should be right up there with Big Trouble in Little China.
I didn't know people didn't like Hudson Hawk...I could throw my hat in the ring, but I also like Hudson Hawk. (눈‸눈)