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I'm using Samsung S-Health so I guess they know how much of a slob I am.
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227: This sucks. Now no one is going to invest in my wifi-enabled glory hole.
You're going to have to elaborate........oh.
Post edited September 14, 2016 by eksasol
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anothername: Then lets hope the judges smack the company so hard it will be less pain for them in the future to be a bit more sensible considering their field of activity ;)
That's not a wise hope.

We have smart everything because we keep asking for it. It's just another thing we can post on Facebook and brag about. You drank 64 oz. of filtered water today! Great, tell everyone who hasn't unfriended you yet! You ran in the shape of a penis! Oh, that never gets old - let's put that all over our activity feed and happen to mention that it was a 9km course that you ran while pushing your baby stroller.

Companies are only really responsible for making sure that they treat your Personally Identifiable Information (PII) with a bare minimum of effort to security, and in accordance with whatever privacy policy you didn't read and clicked through. Other than PII, courts have very little involvement in smart devices. You didn't have to buy a smart thermostat; you wanted to save money and/or effort, and thought a new gadget would help you do that. You didn't have to buy RoboDildo 2000 XXL, you did it for a lark, or because you thought its features would make it better than your boring old polished meter of wood on a diesel four-stroke.

Information is money; as long as insurance companies offer discounts for smart security systems, as long as smart thermostats can be shown to save a few bucks a month, as long as a smart device saves some effort, people are going to actively want them. Ego is worth more than money; as long as you can brag about having something newer, as long as you can brag about doing something that some other people didn't, you're going to actively want these things. We've passed the threshold where the amount of PII stored goes from "not ideal to accidentally let loose in the wold" to "actively harmful in the long term when data breaches happen" and collectively, we just don't give a shit.
Lol. Smart dildo.. Now I've heard everything.

Those phones are pretty slim nowadays, you can shove those in many holes and be happy about it, but when your mom calls and you have phone in your vagina or anus I guess it would be pretty fun story to tell at some social meeting. "I don't like your new hair" "Oh.. OH! Well then, I answered you when my phone was inside me, you know pleasuring me. Also there was this smart dildo and 1 liter of yogurt..
Ah, Internet of Things, what a bright and wonderful future... Not to mention the IoT device makers apparently couldn't care less for security, so for that web-enabled child camera you bought into your kid's bedroom... well, the burglars and pedos can also tap in to see what's happening inside your home.

Why should the device maker care, they already sold the device to you? Not that they even know anything about such security things, too hard.
Why are there only female oriented smart sex toys? :(

I would like one that I put on before sleep and it wakes me up instead of an alarm clock. It could become very popular not to mention a great public service for all of us who hate mornings or at the very least, the first 30-60 minutes of waking up.
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Nirth: I would like one that I put on before sleep and it wakes me up instead of an alarm clock.
I would like a blow-up doll that when the alarm goes off it drops from the ceiling and automatically inflates.

My pet name for her would be Synthia, it's short for synthetic.
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anothername: Then lets hope the judges smack the company so hard it will be less pain for them in the future to be a bit more sensible considering their field of activity ;)
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OneFiercePuppy: That's not a wise hope.

We have smart everything because we keep asking for it. It's just another thing we can post on Facebook and brag about. You drank 64 oz. of filtered water today! Great, tell everyone who hasn't unfriended you yet! You ran in the shape of a penis! Oh, that never gets old - let's put that all over our activity feed and happen to mention that it was a 9km course that you ran while pushing your baby stroller.

Companies are only really responsible for making sure that they treat your Personally Identifiable Information (PII) with a bare minimum of effort to security, and in accordance with whatever privacy policy you didn't read and clicked through. Other than PII, courts have very little involvement in smart devices. You didn't have to buy a smart thermostat; you wanted to save money and/or effort, and thought a new gadget would help you do that. You didn't have to buy RoboDildo 2000 XXL, you did it for a lark, or because you thought its features would make it better than your boring old polished meter of wood on a diesel four-stroke.

Information is money; as long as insurance companies offer discounts for smart security systems, as long as smart thermostats can be shown to save a few bucks a month, as long as a smart device saves some effort, people are going to actively want them. Ego is worth more than money; as long as you can brag about having something newer, as long as you can brag about doing something that some other people didn't, you're going to actively want these things. We've passed the threshold where the amount of PII stored goes from "not ideal to accidentally let loose in the wold" to "actively harmful in the long term when data breaches happen" and collectively, we just don't give a shit.
I fail to see the wisdom in "its ok to let it become worse" or "individually we should shut up because the collective does not give a shit". The collective is a sum of individuals; you don't change shit if you shut up because some others might be annoyed.
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anothername: I fail to see the wisdom in "its ok to let it become worse" or "individually we should shut up because the collective does not give a shit". The collective is a sum of individuals; you don't change shit if you shut up because some others might be annoyed.
There'd be no wisdom in that at all. Care to make up anything else that I didn't say and argue against it? It's a surefire way to win. But if all you're doing is hoping judges will make things better, you're not exactly an exemplar of change.

If you've got it in you to campaign to make things better, great. But, in the states at least, that change can't come from the will of the people straight to the judicial system. Judges aren't there to enforce the will of the people; they're there to enforce the law. Maybe it's different in Germany, I really wouldn't know. But it's not a wise hope, to bank on the judges to rule against the corporations.

EDIT: typo
Post edited September 14, 2016 by OneFiercePuppy
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anothername: I fail to see the wisdom in "its ok to let it become worse" or "individually we should shut up because the collective does not give a shit". The collective is a sum of individuals; you don't change shit if you shut up because some others might be annoyed.
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OneFiercePuppy: There'd be no wisdom in that at all. Care to make up anything else that I didn't say and argue against it? It's a surefire way to win. But if all you're doing is hoping judges will make things better, you're not exactly an examplar of change.

If you've got it in you to campaign to make things better, great. But, in the states at least, that change can't come from the will of the people straight to the judicial system. Judges aren't there to enforce the will of the people; they're there to enforce the law. Maybe it's different in Germany, I really wouldn't know. But it's not a wise hope, to bank on the judges to rule against the corporations.
Err... Ok. I was not thought as argument but statement based on how I perceived the contend of you post. And yeah, privacy & consumer protection laws are a pretty big deal here. Last time I had these law parts in scoll (looong time I admit) 99,5% of typical US TOS would just invalidate itself completey for amoral content.
A smart dildo that tracks you?
A Sleuth Schlong?
Scary!
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Nirth: Why are there only female oriented smart sex toys? :(

I would like one that I put on before sleep and it wakes me up instead of an alarm clock. It could become very popular not to mention a great public service for all of us who hate mornings or at the very least, the first 30-60 minutes of waking up.
Move to Japan, they seem to have some crazy stuff there that might fit the bill. :)
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neurasthenya: A SMART DILDO APP.

DILDO.
APP.

USING AN APP FOR MASTURBATION.

AND SHE'S WORRIED ABOUT TRACKING DATA.

JESUS FVCKING CHRIST.
I bet it is embarrassing when your vibrator tells you you use it to much and might have a problem.
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skeletonbow: Move to Japan, they seem to have some crazy stuff there that might fit the bill. :)
Now you're talking. Better yet, just look at some online market or perhaps contact a university with a creative engineering department. Selling it as a public service might actually be the key to spread it around plus I bet it would solve a lot of issues in society if people wake up with a smile.