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TomNuke: This is a mult-year investigation by the State of California, and that kind of shit doesn't just happen for no reason. Like I said, multi-year investigation by the State of California...
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GamezRanker: Just wanted to point out: I notice that you and others keep saying this re this case......as if it means anything.....and as if the state of California(and other states) can't(and don't) ever put on "circus events" in the guise of trials.

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TomNuke: If this was just some he said she said,
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GamezRanker: But that's exactly what this is....except in this case the state is handling the case.

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TomNuke: Decent and good people, don't put themselves in positions where they even possibly could be accused of just absolutely horrible shit like this.
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GamezRanker: Decent good people have gotten accused of this sort of stuff all the time on social media and in court over the last few decades....where have you been?
Stop it. Are you actually that dumb? This is a multi-year investigation by the State of California. The fact that it's even gotten to the point it is at right now means that it's far beyond a he said she said.

There's for sure been thousands of hours put into this investigation, and countless interviews, statements, and testimony taken from persons of interest. You're an absolute clown if you seriously think we'd be where we are right now over a simple he said she said.

And no, good and decent people don't put themselves in situations in a work / business environment that could potentially open them up to accusations like these.
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TomNuke: Stop it. Are you actually that dumb? This is a multi-year investigation by the State of California. The fact that it's even gotten to the point it is at right now means that it's far beyond a he said she said.

There's for sure been thousands of hours put into this investigation, and countless interviews, statements, and testimony taken from persons of interest. You're an absolute clown if you seriously think we'd be where we are right now over a simple he said she said.

And no, good and decent people don't put themselves in situations in a work / business environment that could potentially open them up to accusations like these.
Um, (beyond the "odd inclusion" of stuff mocking of my intelligence) you said all that already.....several times in fact.

Btw, feel free to say it several times more if you want.....it won't change the fact that it either doesn't necessarily mean anything(a state investigation) or is wrong(your stance/etc that good people joining gaming companies/etc never get accused of things falsely).

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Now to the thread, something silly(and unrelated) to cheer everyone up a bit:

Beep boop bop.....comedy!
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Also more on-topic: If anyone has actually done anything then I hope they get punished by the legal system for doing so. Also not gonna lie, seeing a AAA gaming company perhaps get a massive fine would bring a smile to my face(though, of course, i'd prefer it be for their sh*tty business practices re: consumers...so that maybe we'd some day see some change in said practices).
Post edited July 25, 2021 by GamezRanker
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TomNuke: And no, good and decent people don't put themselves in situations in a work / business environment that could potentially open them up to accusations like these.
Yeah, obviously if someone was innocent, they would never be accused of anything. The whole "presumption of innocence" thing is stupid. Such a waste of time. Once the government accuses you of something you should just be found guilty automatically and sent to the gulag.
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Breja: Yeah, obviously if someone was innocent, they would never be accused of anything. The whole "presumption of innocence" thing is stupid. Such a waste of time.
^ (prolly) much of twitter's/reddit's stances on this case in a nutshell
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Breja: Yeah, obviously if someone was innocent, they would never be accused of anything. The whole "presumption of innocence" thing is stupid. Such a waste of time. Once the government accuses you of something you should just be found guilty automatically and sent to the gulag.
There is no presumption of innocence. You're always considered guilty until proven otherwise. That's why if you're accused of commiting certain crimes, you're gonna be locked up until you can prove otherwise. Evidence was already brought forward pointing towards guilt, and why there's a case to begin wiht. If there wasn't any you wouldn't be in the situation, and that's exactly what's going on here with Blizzard.

You never have to be worried about being accused of something if you don't put yourself in the situation. Like, I'm not at all worried about being accused of harassement, rape, or whatever else at my job, because I'm not an idiot and getting involved with co-workers or doing anything that could be misconstrued.

Like, I'm not worried about getting shot by police because I'm not an idiot, and I don't put myself in situations where I have encounters with the police, or involve myself with people who are going to find themselves dealing with the police. And I did, I would certainly understand that if they tell me to do something I better damn well do it.

It's really not hard at all to avoid all those things. It should be very simple actually if you're just not a moron and treat people with respect even when things aren't going right in your mind. Always shocking to me how so many people just are complete failures at the things that should come the easiest.
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TomNuke: >Soviet Union anthem playing<
K' bye.
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TomNuke: You never have to be worried about being accused of something if you don't put yourself in the situation.
You should tell that to all the victims of cancel culture, m8.....i'm sure they'll find that to be a real corker of a joke and get a good laugh from it. /s

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TomNuke: >Soviet Union anthem playing<
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Breja: K' bye.
Lol
Post edited July 25, 2021 by GamezRanker
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When it comes to things like this, the male is always guilty, even if they're innocent. If anyone's ever accused you of something serious and people find out, they will always wonder if you really did it or not. This is when you find out who your friends are. The accusation is enough to make people look at you differently forever.

Ever had a crazy ex?
Post edited July 25, 2021 by DoomSooth
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It is not clear to the end what caused the conflict
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The only thing I have to add to this is, while I hate Activision and have stopped enjoying Blizzard products for over a decade, they knee jerked with the Quinton Flynn situation and they ended up being wrong when he was proven innocent.
Before that, it was Swifty, which is a complete quagmire of a clusterfunk that just goes to show that incestuous practices in a metaphorical sense, in regards to your work relationships and the blurred lines thereof, is a bad idea. Period.

That said, considering that Chris Avellone, ProJared and a few other situations that ended up being untrue, common sense would dictate a wait and see approach until more physical evidence/receipts are dropped, and the actual trial starts.

Would it surprise me if true? Not at all. Those virtue signaling the hardest and claiming to be "allies" etc, often end up being the biggest abusers behind the scenes.

As for it being the state of California, that has no bearing on anything. California as a legal entity is laughable.
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72_hour_Richard: The worst part of the drama surrounding this, is the harsment and threats thrown at people playing Activision-Blizzard games on Tube and Twitch. They now have to defend and justitify themselves, for simply enjoying a game.

In the ulttra bizzare world of the modern moral mob, playing the games makes you just as bad as the alleged offenders at the company. That's the level of intellect this mob has.

The mob can be as upset with the company as they want, it's their choice to be that kind of people, but don't go after the players, that's monstrously disgusting. They are simply playing a game they enjoy, which should not have to be justified to anyone, something that used to be common sense.
I'm not surprised , because these who are harassing those players were never about some justice for badly treated employees , they dont care forr them at all
,but more like how they can freely hurt others and feel powerful doing it, this is what gives them joy
they are very bad people lawful evil in dnd
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borisburke: Why would someone go through a thread and systematically low-vote every post? Very strange.
Wouldn't be the first time. Sometimes it would be specific users regardless which thread they were in. But obviously bots are involved. I'd bet the GoG staff could actually nip some of it in the butt by looking at who rated posts that have no right being low rated, and using that information, probably with accounts with no bought games...
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TomNuke: >Soviet Union anthem playing<
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Breja: K' bye.
I think the Cardassian anthem would be more appropriate.
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TomNuke: There is no presumption of innocence. You're always considered guilty until proven otherwise.
I really hope you're a troll and not just believe that people should be judged based on accuser's word.
Post edited July 25, 2021 by LootHunter
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Breja: K' bye.
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LootHunter: I think the Cardassian anthem would be more appropriate.
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TomNuke: There is no presumption of innocence. You're always considered guilty until proven otherwise.
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LootHunter: I really hope you're a troll and not just believe that people should be judged based on accuser's word.
what is the cardassian anthem?:O
isnt he just an alt to troll here?
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Orkhepaj: what is the cardassian anthem?:O
I'm not sure if there is an actual anthem of Cardassian Union in the show, but there was an episode about literal "guilty unless proven otherwise". Not that the trial did actually tried to prove innocence...

[url=https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Tribunal_(episode)]Tribunal_(episode)[/url]
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