I've found out that some blizzard staff were butthurt over the streamer ass mongo because he was moving into the final fantasy MMO and were whipping up toxic people to try and get him falsely banned in that game.


Blizzard Just LOST IT! Lead Manager Insults Asmongold & Promotes Harassers in FFXIV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCKDV6zIoNw

for an overview and some relevance-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXCC_gnE4wQ

(this case specifically starts at 01:55)

And after all that their best example for victimhood is someone their complaint is against. Common, man, and they're even asking for a jury trial since, which is something you don't do as a plaintiff unless you're trying to manipulate people in your favor. The reason a defendant does it is he can try to manipulate people in his/her favor, and if that doesn't work, the judge can try to keep the sentence lower.

I'm going to do you a favor, and give you advice: Don't tell people that they shouldn't question authority like this (you're free to, but it's very unwise). This is one of the fundational values of western civilization, so when you represent the US like this, very few people are going to take you seriously. Most people learn about the Salem witch trials, Galileo, and a few others. I mean, we only had Mike Pence attacked for refusing to be alone with women other than his wife, so we know your strategy doesn't work for the rape claim. And fear not, you will never see a police alcohol checkpoint in your life.

But, hey, this is like a bad parody of a boomer.

The best part is they're going for a jury trial, which means they dont' even trust the judge to side with them.

There's an even easier way, actually, that's more reliable than using some subjective opinion on what is and isn't OK to low rate. Although some cases are obvious, there's actually an objective algorithm to apply here. I just won't state it incase GOG were to ever sincerely try to clear it up. The algorithm is easily defeated to give false negatives (but not false positives) and can be utilized for an automatic account deletion procedure to get rid of all the bot accounts likely cluttering up their servers.

You realize that was a parody on communism, right? Star Trek, despite it's lefty convictions, is not communist. People just like to cling to a plot line that Leonard Nimoy wrote in the 4th movie ('cause it is a fan-favorite movie), but it's non-canon (at least, as we interpreted it: i think they meant "phyiscal cash" not "money") as demonstrated by characters prior to this (the original series) remark and after this (TNG) remark (irl time) demonstrating property rights. I belive the affiliations were "humanist." While not christians, they have had very pro-Christian episodes. Mind you, i don't know what happened with this new timeline, as i don't like canon shifts like this. They tend to be very pro-freedom and anti-authoritarianism.

This is funny, given this lolsuit.

We don't know if it's anti-gamergate people behind this. It could be that Blizzard is seen as a company that hasn't come under the influence of the new yorkers and others like ...them.

anti-gamergate people? what are those?

Dude, Blizz are a company in Irvine California.

Eh just another day at the forums. Or to summarize:

Breathers saying the solution to horrible workplace conditions being "just leave and don't take any action about it, we don't want to hear your drama of which you have NO EVIDENCE which by the way, we don't know what the form of that evidence is, you just have to PRODUCE IT FOR OUR FAT ASSES OK? And even if you did, we'll say you fabricate it, you're never gonna win with us, why are you even trying you fucking loser? GO BACK TO WORK FOR ACITIVISION BLIZZARD AND BLESS CAPITALISM, ESPECIALLY LATE STAGE."

p.s. you're not entitled to "evidence" of harrassment, only law enforcement and the legal system is.

(Also that was quite quick getting me low-rated, just 7 minutes from posting to the red lowercase "low rated" text, our bots are quite dedicated)

That's a good point, but that doesn't mean people won't/shouldn't be skeptical of any such claims(from this case and other things in general).....as we have to remember that we're all humans, and humans have the ability to lie. Now that isn't to say that the claims are necessarily lies, but there is a chance some/all of them could be, and as such they should be taken with a grain of salt until proven to be true.

(also I really dislike[understatement] many AAA game company's practices to a good degree....I just don't believe every single thing people say about them or anything else without solid proof)

But it gets even better here. It's not just a random claim on the internet, it's a two-year investigation by a full-fledged State of the United States of America. Likely also an endeavor that was made possible thanks to all the people who spoke up about the frat boy culture these companies are unwilling to address.

If there's anyone I'm going to be highly skeptical of they're not the ones who claim the employers harassed them sexually, it's the employers who have to be taken with the grain of salt. They're the ones with the power and have all the things to lose if they don't hide the skeletons in the closets well.

OK, here's another opinion on this whole thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOyJKAkbrBw

Preface: If the claims are true, I hope the legal system punishes those involved to the full extent possible under the law.
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State investigations don't necessarily mean anything....states do sometimes trials from time to time for their own ends.
(in this case, since the suit is for monetary compensation, i'm guessing they might want a cut of said compensation)

Ask yourself this: if the situation is so bad, why are they still working for the company, and why are they only seeking monetary relief(and not, say, jail time for the ones being accused)?

So are you saying you think it's unlikely that poorer employees (generally speaking) wouldn't lie to get a quick pay day in court?

A number of humans are often greedy, and often lie....that is why in such cases both side's claims should be looked into and weighed evenly.....i.e. one shouldn't automatically assume innocence on the part of any claimants or guilt on the part of those who have been accused(and vice versa).

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Anyways, i'd love to see some of these gaming companies get knocked down a few pegs in court, but i'd prefer it to be for things like their anti-consumer practices(with the possible result that we might see some change in the company/industry), and less of these lawsuits that seem to be mostly made to funnel cash into other people's(and govt's) pockets while likely doing little else.

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Thanks for the link, i'll give it a quick look see in a bit.

Well they're asking for(or have gotten...don't know which it currently is atm) a jury trial....that means they just need to win over the people on said jury....which shouldn't be too hard, given how many(including myself) feel about companies like Blizzard atm.

Well it's also(as I said in my edits) likely for the money....and probably a lot of money.....some of which would likely go into the state's coffers, I am guessing.

But monetary relief alone doesn't stop any actual bad behaviors, now does it?

Even with a bad job market, if I was getting harassed to a severe level, i'd quit.....and i'd expect any smart/rational person would want to do the same.

Again, if one was being harassed to a high degree, i'd assume their physical/mental well being would come before such things.

Yes(read more in the next bit below).

True, but frivolous lawsuits and false legal claims still get made by others all the time....and often as quick cash grabs.

Anyways, as I said: if the ones accused did what has been claimed then i'll be happy if Acti-Blizz gets knocked down a peg in court. Until then, i'm gonna wait and see how this plays out.

Eh, nobody's getting out of this thread alive. While this is true, if this was only going on in the actual court system, but you know damn well that every single one of these instances get tried in the court of public opinion first and foremost, every damn time. It's incredibly disingenuous to insinuate otherwise, or incredibly naive, whichever the case may be.

In fact, most of these things happen side by side with any actual court proceedings. So while it is true that evidence for the legal proceedings isn't owed to any Joe Blow asking for it, that kind of intellectual dishonesty is exactly why borderline slander and libel gets swept under the rug every time someone does end up caught out lying for clout on social media, or charity bucks. Lazy people bandwagoning has created way too many cancel happy hatemobs for anyone to unironically make the claim that evidence isn't necessary to back up ANY accusation made, legally or personally.

Stop it.

It's more likely most of these instances rather than all, but yeah....and usually(due to how jaded/etc society has become in general) it's more often a negative assumption that people hold, rather than a positive one.

Like in this instance, many(generally speaking) dislike ActiBlizz(I do, as well, for various reasons....but I try to remain rational/logical/etc), and since they dislike ActiBlizz they assume whatever bad things they hear about ActiBlizz must be true.