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Posted August 18, 2017
New Piñatas • New Deals • Last Chances


The final 72 hours of Piñata Madness are here, and the mystery-sale bonanza grows bigger – today brings exciting new Piñatas and hot new offers!

If you haven't tried your luck yet, now's the time with new additions to the pool. These include: Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition 1 & 2, SWAT 4, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, NEO Scavenger, Wasteland 2, This War of Mine.
Plus all things Homeworld with Homeworld 1 & 2 Remastered, Deserts of Kharak, as well as the long-gone expansion – Homeworld: Emergence.

If you're not the type to smash Piñatas, there are new great games on sale right now so make sure to give it a browse – and while you're here, check out the Carmageddon 20th Anniversary Sale at 75% off!


--Original announcement--
Piñata Madness is back – meaning excitement, mystery, and exceptional deals on some of our favorite hand-picked titles.




What is Piñata Madness?
For $3, you can buy and smash your own digital Piñata, each holding one of 100+ mystery games worth anywhere from $5.99 all the way up to $44.99.
Visit your <span class="bold">Pinata hub</span>, where can buy, open, and see everything Piñata Madness!
Just like real-life Piñatas, they'll bring you joy, surprise, and reward. Unlike real-life Piñatas, ours drop really good games instead of candy – games like Pillars of Eternity, Shadow Warrior 2, Heroes of Might and Magic, Victor Vran, and more!
It's a great way to broaden your horizons and try out games you otherwise wouldn't, knowing you're always getting a deal that's worth it. And if you already own every game included in our Piñatas, each game you drop will be a giftable code so you share the joy with your friends.







Weekly Megasale
If you'd rather know exactly you're getting, check out the Weekly Megasale featuring great deals up to -90% on some of our favorite titles including Darkest Dungeon, Shadowrun: Hong Kong, Heroes of Might and Magic III, and more!



The Piñata Madness and Weekly Megasale last until August 21, 2017, 9:59 PM UTC.
Posted August 16, 2017
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ped7g: About SALE prices equal/under $3.00 ... dudes, sale prices / promo options never combine by default (except when literally stated so), in any shop, so obviously when they write $5.99+, they mean the base price, not sale price. Have you ever been shopping, or are you just sitting behind PC playing games, if you expect something else?

I can well understand you feel bad about it, but whoever enters pinata promo and expects something else, is sort of "naive". At least they plan to resolve the situations where the sale price went under the pinata price, but I'm afraid the $3 for $3 is still decent deal, ordinary gambling loss (of course whoever starts with gambling, should be aware that in the long run he can only lose, so you should enter only with money you can afford to burn, and enjoy the game itself, the outcome is fixed).
Umm, dude you're talking about combining discount which is something different. When you're giving away stuff you absolutely should consider the current sales prices as that's what people would have otherwise paid and not the base price. Most of the complaints are from people who in their region would have paid less which GoG have already confirmed is something unintentional. Otherwise there is the issue of people getting lots of stuff that is worth no more at the sale price which may be because of which games they already own or it may not be.
Posted August 16, 2017
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Croyzers: However, what GOG has done (and is still contiuning to do), is not inform people what games they will get for their money. Regardless of the quality of the games they get (which looks to be extremely low) people have the right to ask for a refund if what they get isn't suitable for them.

Of course, with the funds being relatively small, you might not bother. Fair enough. As has been said, you may just cut your losses. Gog have then been making money by blind selling you rubbish. Add in the fact, that not everyone will know they can refund their games, is a pretty shady business move by gog.
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SpiderFighter: What GOG is doing is what other companies such as Humble and Groupees have been doing for the last couple of years: appealing to people's baser instincts with "The Mystery Game." The idea is that people who are normally cautious about what they spend can't pass up the chance at a bigger title for cheap. It works so well that Humble has based an entire monthly subscription service around it. I can't fault GOG for doing it, when it's obviously a moneymaker. GOG is still a business, after all. There's nothing shady about it; by its very nature, the buyer is aware that they may receive something they don't want.
Just because other people are doing it, doesn't make it ok. I honestly don't know about Groupees, but at least with the monthly humble bundle, you can see an item that you are going to buy.

If GOG is selling games without telling people what the games are. If GOG didn't offer a refund, then it is shady, and it's exactly what the anti-consumer laws are trying to stop.

However, Gog have confirmed that people can refund the games they haven't downloaded. Great. This should have been made clear from the very start.

What has been extremely shady from GOG, is that not everyone will have known about refunds. Look at the number of posts in this thread where people have said they are stuck with a game they are so bad that they aren't going to bother to download or already have the game on another service. There is obviously a quality control problem with the games GOG were putting in this sale. These customers didn't think they could refund them or trade them. If they don't know about refunds then they are stuck with a game that they don't want whilst having no possibility of knowing what it is.

Gog have profited from these people. That is shady.
Post edited August 16, 2017 by Croyzers
Posted August 16, 2017
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Croyzers: What has been extremely shady from GOG, is that not everyone will have known about refunds. Look at the number of posts in this thread where people have said they are stuck with a game they aren't going to bother to download. There is obviously a quality control problem with the games GOG were putting in this sale. These customers didn't think they could refund them or trade them. If they don't know about refunds then they are stuck with a game that they don't want whilst having no possibility of knowing what it is.

Gog have profited from these people. That is shady.
As one of the people they profited from (3 games I wouldn't have bought, the other two I could have just bought for $2.99) I see absolutely nothing shady about this.

Did you never enjoy the fun of a mystery toy bag? Or Kinder Surprise? One never knows whether there will be the coolest toy in there or just the 1001st toy car (the latter being far more probable), but it is FUN. It's the same concept, and we knew from the beginning that we were probably not going to get any of the jackpot games.

(Heck, I already own all of those, so I most DEFINITELY knew I wouldn't hit the jackpot... :D)

Sale prices lower than the price of a Piñata were unfair, but they redeemed that mistake fairly quickly. As they did with duplicate games.

Everything else? A bit of a downer, but definitely not shady business. They can (and obviously they already try to!) make a mystery bag like this a bit more fun for the participants, but with lower sale prices and duplicate games out of the picture, there's nothing shady about this deal.
Posted August 16, 2017
Well, in my case, I got half of the games that I already own on steam. And the other half, I absolutely not interested in. :(

It should check if one already have the game on steam. Same like it check if one already have the game on gog account. otherwise all this just make no sense, really.

It's the first time I participate in such event, and to be honest, as much as I love gog and with all the respect, I really don't like this event.

Anyway, I asked for a refund, for the first time ever, I guess we'll see how it goes. I dint download any of those new games I got via piñata event. so it should work right, the refund ? :S
Posted August 16, 2017
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Croyzers: What has been extremely shady from GOG, is that not everyone will have known about refunds. Look at the number of posts in this thread where people have said they are stuck with a game they aren't going to bother to download. There is obviously a quality control problem with the games GOG were putting in this sale. These customers didn't think they could refund them or trade them. If they don't know about refunds then they are stuck with a game that they don't want whilst having no possibility of knowing what it is.

Gog have profited from these people. That is shady.
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Nathraiben: As one of the people they profited from (3 games I wouldn't have bought, the other two I could have just bought for $2.99) I see absolutely nothing shady about this.

Did you never enjoy the fun of a mystery toy bag? Or Kinder Surprise? One never knows whether there will be the coolest toy in there or just the 1001st toy car (the latter being far more probable), but it is FUN. It's the same concept, and we knew from the beginning that we were probably not going to get any of the jackpot games.

(Heck, I already own all of those, so I most DEFINITELY knew I wouldn't hit the jackpot... :D)

Sale prices lower than the price of a Piñata were unfair, but they redeemed that mistake fairly quickly. As they did with duplicate games.

Everything else? A bit of a downer, but definitely not shady business. They can (and obviously they already try to!) make a mystery bag like this a bit more fun for the participants, but with lower sale prices and duplicate games out of the picture, there's nothing shady about this deal.
You bought your lucky dip and you are happy with the contents. Fine. I'm glad it's worked out for you.

When other people have gone into the lucky dip, they've essentialy put their hands into a garbage dump and pulled out an old banana skin. Having bought 4 of those Pinata's, and pulled out 4 of the proverbial banana skins, I was less than happy. Judging by this thread, the same has happened to others. To me, that's shady.

Customers have the right to refunds if the haven't touched the goods, however, they probably didn't know about it as it was only confirmed by GOG late in this thread. Heck, a lot of people saw this as a gamble and probably thought that refunds don't apply in this case. Granted, it may have been unintentional on GOG's part, but that's what people thought. Gog must have been aware that people thought this - if they did, then it's shady. If they didn't, then GOG have been extremely niave - not the customers.
Post edited August 16, 2017 by Croyzers
Posted August 16, 2017
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finkleroy: Once again, I'd like to ask for a link to the Weekly Megasale.
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IFW: https://www.gog.com/games?price=discounted&amp;sort=date&amp;page=1

Except for the pre-orders all of these are part of the sale - 3 pages worth of games (change page at the bottom; "1 of 3")
Thanks, but I'm talking about the list, as opposed to the grid. The list shows each game's genre. I don't know if there's no link to the list because this is a megasale, or if this is going to be regular thing, but if it's going to be a regular thing, the number of games I buy will dramatically plummet, as I don't have the patience to check every single game's store page just to find out what genre it's in. There are too many genres in which I'm completely disinterested, for example, all types of RPGs and platformers.
Posted August 16, 2017
GOG is not Steam. GOG Connect is a nice, but limited, extra service they offer that as others have pointed out undoubtedly requires them expending business, legal and technical resources. They obviously deem it worthwhile to expend those resources on GOG Connect as it exists now. But I doubt a massive expansion of GOG Connect to cover any and all games in any and all situations including all sales makes any business(or technical) sense at all.

GOG checking your ownership of games on Steam is very much the exception as is. Indeed with GOG Connect it up to the user to take the initiative.

GOG never guarantees that you don't own a game before elsewhere. Nor should they be expected to. There is no reason to expect any more in that regard when it comes to piñatas than normal sales of games. It doesn't matter if it is Steam, Origin, UPlay, Google Playstore, PSN, physical releases etc. The same principle applies.

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I am responding to this post btw: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_pinata_madness_sale_starts_now_98cd1/post424
Post edited August 16, 2017 by Kristian
Posted August 16, 2017
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finkleroy: Thanks, but I'm talking about the list, as opposed to the grid. The list shows each game's genre. I don't know if there's no link to the list because this is a megasale, or if this is going to be regular thing, but if it's going to be a regular thing, the number of games I buy will dramatically plummet, as I don't have the patience to check every single game's store page just to find out what genre it's in. There are too many genres in which I'm completely disinterested, for example, all types of RPGs and platformers.
The big sales never have these lists unless there's bundles/collections. And then only for the bundles/collections. So I'm afraid you won't get one for this sale.

The next regular weekly sale should have one again.
Posted August 16, 2017
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finkleroy: Thanks, but I'm talking about the list, as opposed to the grid. The list shows each game's genre. I don't know if there's no link to the list because this is a megasale, or if this is going to be regular thing, but if it's going to be a regular thing, the number of games I buy will dramatically plummet, as I don't have the patience to check every single game's store page just to find out what genre it's in. There are too many genres in which I'm completely disinterested, for example, all types of RPGs and platformers.
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Yezemin: The big sales never have these lists unless there's bundles/collections. And then only for the bundles/collections. So I'm afraid you won't get one for this sale.

The next regular weekly sale should have one again.
Thanks for the info. This seems counter-intuitive. If a normal number of games are on sale, they'll tell me each game's genre without having to go to its store page, but if a ton of games are on sale, I have to click on every single one of them. I hope they change this in the future. Thanks again for letting me know about this. I appreciate it.

Also, the games that were removed from the megasale for being cheaper than a pinata should have been removed from the pinata pool instead, so those of us who don't care about this pinata nonsense could still buy those games on sale.
Post edited August 16, 2017 by finkleroy
Posted August 16, 2017
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Nathraiben: As one of the people they profited from (3 games I wouldn't have bought, the other two I could have just bought for $2.99) I see absolutely nothing shady about this.

Did you never enjoy the fun of a mystery toy bag? Or Kinder Surprise? One never knows whether there will be the coolest toy in there or just the 1001st toy car (the latter being far more probable), but it is FUN. It's the same concept, and we knew from the beginning that we were probably not going to get any of the jackpot games.

(Heck, I already own all of those, so I most DEFINITELY knew I wouldn't hit the jackpot... :D)

Sale prices lower than the price of a Piñata were unfair, but they redeemed that mistake fairly quickly. As they did with duplicate games.

Everything else? A bit of a downer, but definitely not shady business. They can (and obviously they already try to!) make a mystery bag like this a bit more fun for the participants, but with lower sale prices and duplicate games out of the picture, there's nothing shady about this deal.
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Croyzers: You bought your lucky dip and you are happy with the contents. Fine. I'm glad it's worked out for you.

When other people have gone into the lucky dip, they've essentialy put their hands into a garbage dump and pulled out an old banana skin. Having bought 4 of those Pinata's, and pulled out 4 of the proverbial banana skins, I was less than happy. Judging by this thread, the same has happened to others. To me, that's shady.

Customers have the right to refunds if the haven't touched the goods, however, they probably didn't know about it as it was only confirmed by GOG late in this thread. Heck, a lot of people saw this as a gamble and probably thought that refunds don't apply in this case. Granted, it may have been unintentional on GOG's part, but that's what people thought. Gog must have been aware that people thought this - if they did, then it's shady. If they didn't, then GOG have been extremely niave - not the customers.
So, just to clarify GOG should guarantee that the sale they have clearly marketed as giving the user a random/unknown/surprise game will always give them a game they will like? And it is GOG's fault when people take a risk and don't like the outcome?

This bit seems to me to imply that:

"When other people have gone into the lucky dip, they've essentialy put their hands into a garbage dump and pulled out an old banana skin. Having bought 4 of those Pinata's, and pulled out 4 of the proverbial banana skins, I was less than happy. Judging by this thread, the same has happened to others. To me, that's shady."

Since you are calling unhappy outcomes of a beforehand announced random process shady. You are aware, aren't you that people have the choice not buying a piñata in the first place, are you not?
Post edited August 16, 2017 by Kristian
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Croyzers: Customers have the right to refunds if the haven't touched the goods, however, they probably didn't know about it as it was only confirmed by GOG late in this thread. Heck, a lot of people saw this as a gamble and probably thought that refunds don't apply in this case. Granted, it may have been unintentional on GOG's part, but that's what people thought. Gog must have been aware that people thought this - if they did, then it's shady. If they didn't, then GOG have been extremely niave - not the customers.
This is not true. It's been part of their TOC for years. And they state clearly that the 30 day refund policy pertains to all purchases on GOG as long as you don't download them. It was that way during the last mystery sales, too (there've been 4 or 5 before this one).

So people complaining is because they didn't read the TOC not because GOG forgot to tell them they could refund. They simply saw no need because it's already there for everyone to see. While there's a lot of cases where GOG shows an appalling lack of communication, this is not one of them.
Posted August 16, 2017
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Croyzers: Customers have the right to refunds if the haven't touched the goods, however, they probably didn't know about it as it was only confirmed by GOG late in this thread. Heck, a lot of people saw this as a gamble and probably thought that refunds don't apply in this case. Granted, it may have been unintentional on GOG's part, but that's what people thought. Gog must have been aware that people thought this - if they did, then it's shady. If they didn't, then GOG have been extremely niave - not the customers.
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Yezemin: This is not true. It's been part of their TOC for years. And they state clearly that the 30 day refund policy pertains to all purchases on GOG as long as you don't download them. It was that way during the last mystery sales, too (there've been 4 or 5 before this one).

So people complaining is because they didn't read the TOC not because GOG forgot to tell them they could refund. They simply saw no need because it's already there for everyone to see. While there's a lot of cases where GOG shows an appalling lack of communication, this is not one of them.
I'm looking at the FAQ at: https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004458369-Pinata-Madness-FAQ

There is only 1 mention of refund, and that is if you have a duplicate Pinata.

If that's an acceptable level of communication to you on refunds - so be it.

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Croyzers: You bought your lucky dip and you are happy with the contents. Fine. I'm glad it's worked out for you.

When other people have gone into the lucky dip, they've essentialy put their hands into a garbage dump and pulled out an old banana skin. Having bought 4 of those Pinata's, and pulled out 4 of the proverbial banana skins, I was less than happy. Judging by this thread, the same has happened to others. To me, that's shady.

Customers have the right to refunds if the haven't touched the goods, however, they probably didn't know about it as it was only confirmed by GOG late in this thread. Heck, a lot of people saw this as a gamble and probably thought that refunds don't apply in this case. Granted, it may have been unintentional on GOG's part, but that's what people thought. Gog must have been aware that people thought this - if they did, then it's shady. If they didn't, then GOG have been extremely niave - not the customers.
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Kristian: So, just to clarify GOG should guarantee that the sale they have clearly marketed as giving the user a random/unknown/surprise game will always give them a game they will like? And it is GOG's fault when people take a risk and don't like the outcome?

This bit seems to me to imply that:

"When other people have gone into the lucky dip, they've essentialy put their hands into a garbage dump and pulled out an old banana skin. Having bought 4 of those Pinata's, and pulled out 4 of the proverbial banana skins, I was less than happy. Judging by this thread, the same has happened to others. To me, that's shady."

Since you are calling unhappy outcomes of a beforehand announced random process shady. You are aware, aren't you that people have the choice not buying a piñata in the first place, are you not?
There is also the option of GOG not offering a sale where people are aligned to a random process.

If I bought a product, and it turned out to be complete crap - I have every right to complain about it.

In this instance, if Gog sells me something, and I haven't used it - regardless of if I liked it or not - I should be granted a refund. If Gog wants to sell games in this fashion, then it better expect a lot of refunds from people, who upon reading reviews and before downloading the game, find out the game is rubbish, or find out they have the game on another service.

The reason I called this process shady - yes, I was very aware that I could land a game I didn't like. However, to land a game that was known to be so completely bug ridden it wouldn't even launch - then that's simply ridiculous.
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Posted August 16, 2017
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IFW: https://www.gog.com/games?price=discounted&amp;sort=date&amp;page=1

Except for the pre-orders all of these are part of the sale - 3 pages worth of games (change page at the bottom; "1 of 3")
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finkleroy: Thanks, but I'm talking about the list, as opposed to the grid. The list shows each game's genre. I don't know if there's no link to the list because this is a megasale, or if this is going to be regular thing, but if it's going to be a regular thing, the number of games I buy will dramatically plummet, as I don't have the patience to check every single game's store page just to find out what genre it's in. There are too many genres in which I'm completely disinterested, for example, all types of RPGs and platformers.
You can switch from the grid to the list view. And the list at least shows the first genre tag of each game. You even can filter the list for your preferred genres.
Posted August 16, 2017
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Croyzers: I'm looking at the FAQ at: https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004458369-Pinata-Madness-FAQ

There is only 1 mention of refund, and that is if you have a duplicate Pinata.

If that's an acceptable level of communication to you on refunds - so be it.
I wasn't talking about the FAQ. If I was I would have mentioned it. I was talking about the GOG User Agreement.

I'm quoting verbatim:

d) Withdrawal Right: we give you the right to withdraw from a purchase of GOG content without charge and for any reason within 30 days after you bought that GOG content, IF it has not been downloaded, streamed, activated or used in any way before then. If any of those things happen then your withdrawal right is lost.

I don't know about you, but I always read a store's user agreements before signing up. Of course, everyone has to decide that for himself. But in my opinion if you don't read read it you don't have any right to complain about not knowing something that is stated there.
Posted August 16, 2017
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finkleroy: Thanks, but I'm talking about the list, as opposed to the grid. The list shows each game's genre. I don't know if there's no link to the list because this is a megasale, or if this is going to be regular thing, but if it's going to be a regular thing, the number of games I buy will dramatically plummet, as I don't have the patience to check every single game's store page just to find out what genre it's in. There are too many genres in which I'm completely disinterested, for example, all types of RPGs and platformers.
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eiii: You can switch from the grid to the list view. And the list at least shows the first genre tag of each game. You even can filter the list for your preferred genres.
Thank you. I noticed that option in the library, but not on this list. This will make it much easier to browse the games while ignoring all the games in genres I don't like. It would be nice to have a list of just the games that are in the megasale, as opposed to all games which are currently on sale, but it's no biggie, as I can just scroll past all the games that are tagged as "soon". I don't do preorders, and I'm sure I'll hear all about them when they release.
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