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Yes, I understand your point of view, sadly we actually received the same version than Steam, like Grargar explained, GOG works different, I don't know if you can download the old version from Galaxy, and I don't know if they can provide you a link to download the game because officially the license expired, Steam still allow it because the greay area.
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Cadaver747: You have the rights to download whatever the store and the publisher decide for you. For instance the game might be *upgraded* without you knowing or wanting which forever block you from downloading the original. We had those cases as well.
So in theory the publisher could simply decide to swap my Doom game to a point and click adventure ... this can't be right. There must be SOME safety net here.
I hate gog's forum software
this broken forum software gives me a headache, because appearantly quoting two posts and removing my quotes is too much for this broken bloated garbage software

Welp im hosed because due to USB Flash drives dying, and my latops HD going kaput, I dont have my original SOD installer anymore

thanks gog and bethseda!

also this was meant to be a response to you Marko and Cadaver as above this garbage forum software made it impossible.
Post edited January 18, 2023 by Lord_Kane
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MarkoH01: ...did not know about the Ubisoft policy - but if this policy is also part of their TOS you were aware when you signed so that would be okay too - if there is nothing in the TOS I am sure it would be illegal to delete complete accounts without contacting the owner.
Not okay, since Ubisoft implement that policy unilateral, yes they informed the users about policy changes like the bank which realized that customers tariffs are too low, but the games which were bought from Ubisoft long before that new policy took place are not safe along with all other games and game account. I have to check every 6 months to Ubisoft's UPlay just for that and there is no clear indication as to what would happen to those games purchased from Steam and linked to required Ubisoft launcher. Absolutely crazy approach, yet very capitalistic way of things.
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KetobaK: Yes, I understand your point of view, sadly we actually received the same version than Steam, like Grargar explained, GOG works different, I don't know if you can download the old version from Galaxy, and I don't know if they can provide you a link to download the game because officially the license expired, Steam still allow it because the greay area.
Wrong. When I purchased the game they had the license and it was part of what I purchased. Again: the difference is that they actively changed a game in my library not just removed or changed one that has not been purchased yet. And Steam is also no gray area they have to follow the law just like everybody else. You can't download the old version using Galaxy since they swapped the whole thing with a new product ... so there is no update history and no rollback option available. It is not an update it is an exchange.
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MarkoH01: ...did not know about the Ubisoft policy - but if this policy is also part of their TOS you were aware when you signed so that would be okay too - if there is nothing in the TOS I am sure it would be illegal to delete complete accounts without contacting the owner.
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Cadaver747: Not okay, since Ubisoft implement that policy unilateral, yes they informed the users about policy changes like the bank which realized that customers tariffs are too low, but the games which were bought from Ubisoft long before that new policy took place are not safe along with all other games and game account. I have to check every 6 months to Ubisoft's UPlay just for that and there is no clear indication as to what would happen to those games purchased from Steam and linked to required Ubisoft launcher. Absolutely crazy approach, yet very capitalistic way of things.
Understood and agreed. Not okay.
Post edited January 18, 2023 by MarkoH01
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MarkoH01: So in theory the publisher could simply decide to swap my Doom game to a point and click adventure ... this can't be right. There must be SOME safety net here.
Not that, in theory publisher might decide that your version of game is too old and they prepared a good upgrade of that very same game just for you and all others. And then one day you wake up to play Warcraft 3 and see that it's a broken mess called Reforged with lots ot bugs and no matchmaking ladder and all custom maps are broken. (example from Blizzard's Battle.net this time).

Last example from GOG would be Saints Raw I guess, not sure.

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KetobaK: I don't know if you can download the old version from Galaxy
You can't, there is only latest version 1.4 - 4 months ago available. Unlike other games which have several older versions for installing as an option.
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Lord_Kane: I dont have my original SOD installer anymore
That is not a problem but I can't say more.
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Post edited January 18, 2023 by Cadaver747
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MarkoH01: "please tell me why I still should support DRM-free if it still is up to the publisher what I can keep and what not?"
I don't want to be 'that guy' who says "yes, but...", but the truth is DRM-Free gives you the opportunity to prevent publishers from altering / removing access from your content (by backing offline installers up). It's never given any buyer permanent control over the cloud server of the store they bought it from. This is true on Humble (who scrapped several DRM-Free direct downloads in favour of Steam keys), it's true on Steam & Epic (who have both added DRM to some initially released as DRM-Free games in a patch) and it's been true here on GOG even before Wolfenstein 3D. (Eg, GOG used to sell Operation Flashpoint Cold War Crisis GOTY (with 2x DLC's, Red Hammer & Resistance) then that got removed and replaced with ARMA Cold War Assault (only 1x DLC Resistance with the Red Hammer campaign completely stripped out and missing). This is why some of us 'kick up a fuss' over the "2nd class citizen" thing regardless of how it upsets some to 'keep hearing about it'. Achievements, cloud saves, Galaxy rollback, even Galaxy itself can disappear server-side *poof* just like that. Offline installers are the only thing here immune to unwanted alteration by GOG or the publisher that actually gives tangible meaning to "DRM-Free" or "game preservation" in the long-run.

I hope you do get it sorted though. Perhaps some hope comes in the fact GOG did actually go back and re-add some .exe's of DOS games they previously stripped out in the process of adding ScummVM, so maybe they'll reconsider here with W3D here if enough people kick up a fuss.
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Lord_Kane: I dont have my original SOD installer anymore
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Cadaver747: That is not a problem but I can't say more.
I solved it during the wait for a reply. :))
Post edited January 18, 2023 by Lord_Kane
Still have the previous versions of the installers but anyone that bought the games before this most recent update should have access to the mission packs without having to rely on a back-up or rolling back in Galaxy. Anything a game, movie, or soundtrack had when they were bought should be permanently accessible until GOG no longer exists.

I'm sure some troll wants to say something like "Does that include bugs, too? HURR HURR... :B" No, it doesn't. There's quite a big difference between fixing bugs and removing parts of a game that were intended to be there and had been available for years.
You might consider posting this on the GOG subreddit also.
An old example would be Leisure Suit Larry compilation, that included Softporn Adventure. At some point in time GOG removed the game from the pack for new buyers, but was restored to those who previously purchased the pack before the removal.

Why they haven't done the same with Spear of Destiny is something I can't comprehend.
Not related to Wolfenstein 3D, but GOG just allowed pretty much the same thing to happen to Scorn.

We used to have a 280MB pdf artbook, which then got taken down, but the owners still had access.
It has now been "returned", yet the file name got changed from scorn_the_art_of_the_game.zip to scorn_the_art_of_the_game2.zip and contains a 33MB epub and a 69MB mobi.

This replaces the convenient pdf for everyone, regardless of when it was bought. The books are way smaller and also formatted as single page. Unfortunately the art book contains many drawings spanning two pages, all of which are cut in half. This was not the case with the PDF.

Also, I cannot for the life of me find a way to zoom. It just makes the text bigger, eventually overlapping it, while the artwork remains the same.

I'm sure the developers / publishers are mainly to blame for this nonsense, but why doesn't GOG protect our libraries? If you wanna give a crappier book to new purchases - fine, but keep the original intact for original purchasers!

Thankfully I downloaded it on the launch day, but GOG has proven to be just like Steam. Neither give a single poo about protecting user libraries.

I suggest everyone buy a hard drive and start downloading everything. The only library we can trust is on our hard drives.
Post edited January 19, 2023 by SargonAelther
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SargonAelther: I suggest everyone buy a hard drive and start downloading everything. The only library we can trust is on our hard drives.
Til you have a multi-terabyte RAID fail on you.. sigh. Been there.
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clarry: Til you have a multi-terabyte RAID fail on you.. sigh. Been there.
That fear is exactly why I'm weary of RAID. Currently I have a single enterprise-grade 18TB HDD for GOG.
The only RAID I'd ever do is 1.

Eventually, of course, my library will outgrow those 18TB and I will have to do some manual filing or something, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

I can't afford too many of those HDDs right now, but I will have redundancies in the next few years.
Post edited January 19, 2023 by SargonAelther
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clarry: Til you have a multi-terabyte RAID fail on you.. sigh. Been there.
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SargonAelther: That fear is exactly why I'm weary of RAID. Currently I have a single enterprise-grade 18TB HDD for GOG.
The only RAID I'd ever do is 1.

Eventually, of course, my library will outgrow those 18TB and I will have to do some manual filing or something, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

I can't afford too many of those HDDs right now, but I will have redundancies in the next few years.
right now I depend on USB flash drives and google drive for smaller stuff.