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Shadowstalker16: The hashtag cannot trend again but the principles behind the movement can always be discussed.
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Impaler26: Oh, i never knew that it actually was a "movement". But i have already posted more about this unpleasant topic than i should.
I'll just keep my trap shut and forget about it again. :D
Just remember Gamergate isn't a "Hate" movement just a hated one.
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Shadowstalker16: First bump of the year! Yay!

Chief developer of Neir : Automata responds to concerns about upskirt shots in his game with tweet asking people to collect all the r34 artwork the game inspired so it could be found in one place : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEl1Ztz0qoE Dump of the artwork is linked in the thegg article in the video's description, is NSFW.
I believe r34 is something creators should generally embrace as a form of flattery. This is a respectable way to handle it.
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Shadowstalker16: First bump of the year! Yay!

Chief developer of Neir : Automata responds to concerns about upskirt shots in his game with tweet asking people to collect all the r34 artwork the game inspired so it could be found in one place : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEl1Ztz0qoE Dump of the artwork is linked in the thegg article in the video's description, is NSFW.
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LeonardoCornejo: I believe r34 is something creators should generally embrace as a form of flattery. This is a respectable way to handle it.
Yeah r34 artwork seems to co-relate with future success. Just look at Overwatch. Its pretty much its own porn genre now.
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LeonardoCornejo: I believe r34 is something creators should generally embrace as a form of flattery. This is a respectable way to handle it.
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Shadowstalker16: Yeah r34 artwork seems to co-relate with future success. Just look at Overwatch. Its pretty much its own porn genre now.
I must admit many things I enjoy were things I became aware of due to r34. Sex sells, that is human nature.
I don't watch youtube political much but this is gold : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEaZyYOLUUk

EDIT : TL;DW shoe reacts (*sigh*) to a video made supposedly for kids that present nothing but opinions as facts of sexuality. Also probably not too appropriate considering this seems to be a video about sexuality meant for pre-school kids.
Post edited 5 days ago by Shadowstalker16
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Shadowstalker16: I don't watch youtube political much but this is gold : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEaZyYOLUUk

EDIT : TL;DW shoe reacts (*sigh*) to a video made supposedly for kids that present nothing but opinions as facts of sexuality. Also probably not too appropriate considering this seems to be a video about sexuality meant for pre-school kids.
"Queer kids Stuff" is strange. I personally can't tell if it's goal is to sexuality children or infantilize Teens/adults

And on a more GG front..
With the "Ladykiller in a bind" commotion it seems Gaming journo ethics issues such as collusion still plague the industry
Post edited 4 days ago by Rusty_Gunn
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Shadowstalker16: I don't watch youtube political much but this is gold : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEaZyYOLUUk

EDIT : TL;DW shoe reacts (*sigh*) to a video made supposedly for kids that present nothing but opinions as facts of sexuality. Also probably not too appropriate considering this seems to be a video about sexuality meant for pre-school kids.
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Rusty_Gunn: "Queer kids Stuff" is strange. I personally can't tell if it's goal is to sexuality children or infantilize Teens/adults

And on a more GG front..
With the "Ladykiller in a bind" commotion it seems Gaming journo ethics issues such as collusion still plague the industry
Hopefully its for child-like adults.

What happened with that game? Isn't it some visual novel? Someone didn't disclose?
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Rusty_Gunn: "Queer kids Stuff" is strange. I personally can't tell if it's goal is to sexuality children or infantilize Teens/adults

And on a more GG front..
With the "Ladykiller in a bind" commotion it seems Gaming journo ethics issues such as collusion still plague the industry
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Shadowstalker16: Hopefully its for child-like adults.

What happened with that game? Isn't it some visual novel? Someone didn't disclose?
It's by Christine Love, former roommate and partner of reviewer Patricia Hernandez who inexplicably reviewed just about every one of her indie games. No surprise that it is reviewed by all the usual suspects: Gamasutra, Polygon, MarySue, PC Gamer, Ars Technica, etc despite being a "Mature" VN game with BDSM.

You'd think it was a AAA game with all the attention it gets because it's a dear friend of the in-crowd even with it's NSFW content.
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Shadowstalker16: Hopefully its for child-like adults.

What happened with that game? Isn't it some visual novel? Someone didn't disclose?
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RWarehall: It's by Christine Love, former roommate and partner of reviewer Patricia Hernandez who inexplicably reviewed just about every one of her indie games. No surprise that it is reviewed by all the usual suspects: Gamasutra, Polygon, MarySue, PC Gamer, Ars Technica, etc despite being a "Mature" VN game with BDSM.

You'd think it was a AAA game with all the attention it gets because it's a dear friend of the in-crowd even with it's NSFW content.
The game has some indie game award nomination as well. But what's the controversy, if there is one? And wasn't Patricia a room mate of some other developer? I recall a stereotypical tumblerina from somewhere.
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Shadowstalker16: The game has some indie game award nomination as well. But what's the controversy, if there is one? And wasn't Patricia a room mate of some other developer? I recall a stereotypical tumblerina from somewhere.
The controversy is Christina Love is an Indie Clique Darling.

All those asshole didn't give a single shit when games like Nekopara, the Grisaia series and countless other VN's got refused or butchered by Steam. And they Didn't care when Steam finally released uncensored VN such as If My Heart Had Wings or Gahkthun of the Golden Lightning.

And there are a lot of people who actually care about those games especially compared to that game., but those devs sadly didn't have the name of a worn out porn star.
Post edited 3 days ago by WBGhiro
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Shadowstalker16: The game has some indie game award nomination as well. But what's the controversy, if there is one? And wasn't Patricia a room mate of some other developer? I recall a stereotypical tumblerina from somewhere.
Yeah, Anna Antrophy too. Patricia Hernandez is shameless when it comes to writing reviews for her friends....

http://www.deepfreeze.it/journo.php?j=patricia_hernandez

At least I didn't see Patricia review this one this time, but Katherine Cross did...

http://www.deepfreeze.it/journo.php?j=katherine_cross

But really, the issue isn't about disclosure as much as it's about how certain individuals get favorable press coverage from all the major players despite their games being typical bundleware crap. The fact they are friends, former roommates and/or lovers of gaming journos just shows how corrupt and incestuous the game journo industry is. It's not like this game got reviewed in just one or two mags, but all of them. This as a small time indie title.
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Shadowstalker16: The game has some indie game award nomination as well. But what's the controversy, if there is one? And wasn't Patricia a room mate of some other developer? I recall a stereotypical tumblerina from somewhere.
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WBGhiro: The controversy is Christina Love is an Indie Clique Darling.

All those asshole didn't give a single shit when games like Nekopara, the Grisaia series and countless other VN's got refused or butchered by Steam. And they Didn't care when Steam finally released uncensored VN such as If My Heart Had Wings or Gahkthun of the Golden Lightning.

And there are a lot of people who actually care about those games especially compared to that game., but those devs sadly didn't have the name of a worn out porn star.
Yeah reviews or any coverage for VNs is rare, and even rarer serious. I would question the sudden interest of so many hitherto uninterested journalists in this particular one, but I don't think this is a breach of ethics that is very serious. I think it can be argued that it had something that interested the journos enough to make them cover it, even if that was that it was made by their friend. Its partly a problem of lack of coverage of this genre in general.
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Shadowstalker16: The game has some indie game award nomination as well. But what's the controversy, if there is one? And wasn't Patricia a room mate of some other developer? I recall a stereotypical tumblerina from somewhere.
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RWarehall: Yeah, Anna Antrophy too. Patricia Hernandez is shameless when it comes to writing reviews for her friends....

http://www.deepfreeze.it/journo.php?j=patricia_hernandez

At least I didn't see Patricia review this one this time, but Katherine Cross did...

http://www.deepfreeze.it/journo.php?j=katherine_cross

But really, the issue isn't about disclosure as much as it's about how certain individuals get favorable press coverage from all the major players despite their games being typical bundleware crap. The fact they are friends, former roommates and/or lovers of gaming journos just shows how corrupt and incestuous the game journo industry is. It's not like this game got reviewed in just one or two mags, but all of them. This as a small time indie title.
Yes, it can matter heavily in genres of relative obsolescence but there is also the part that games in this genre are rarely covered in the first place and even though this coverage is probably the result of friendship, following a developer one knows is legitimate as a practice, IMO, as long as relations are disclosed where it extends to friendship.
Post edited 3 days ago by Shadowstalker16
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Shadowstalker16: The game has some indie game award nomination as well. But what's the controversy, if there is one? And wasn't Patricia a room mate of some other developer? I recall a stereotypical tumblerina from somewhere.
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WBGhiro: The controversy is Christina Love is an Indie Clique Darling.

All those asshole didn't give a single shit when games like Nekopara, the Grisaia series and countless other VN's got refused or butchered by Steam. And they Didn't care when Steam finally released uncensored VN such as If My Heart Had Wings or Gahkthun of the Golden Lightning.

And there are a lot of people who actually care about those games especially compared to that game., but those devs sadly didn't have the name of a worn out porn star.
What bothers me the most is that they even have the nerve to act like gatekeepers, saying only the erotic games they approve should not be censored. That is simply insulting. I hate these fucking hypocrites.