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There is trolls and idiots in Internet. Idiots believe they are trolls...

Who are who? Why anti-anti-wokers exist in internet and why THEY ACTING like they do? Start insulting everyone even before there is anti-wokers. Start insult also gays and bis. Did they are trolls... or? Companies fanboys? Refusers of "everything bad in the world" situation?
Ornim overthinking and there is simpler answer?

I mean. A lot of such people start refuse there is official companies policies (published online) and even STATEs LAWs still refused by them to exist.
Here same happened.

Talking to them ks pointless useless. The best of them - they are trolls. Dont try to talk to them "ok i said in other words just for kid". You would waste your time talking "with kkds".

And i am a bi and SJW (mean Social and Justice not Just-Us (© Avatar)), stand for representative and proper use of its term. I once got banned here. Technically for a reason (but it was not me who start derail thread which i did point to in first place, i hope GOGs mods ban real guilt person too there).

LGBT persons are not related to idiocy happened in Internet... And in art-medias. And in IRL ofc. Every L, G, B and T know who they are and only T have a bit issues in society that we society should find a way.
Make movies and games budget rised for lowest quality content are not an LGBT ideas.

Worse its just random people there. Random non-gays persons at Fandom take ownership of LGBT Wiki and rewrite articles to make less representative in text.

Here the whole thread about Politics. So im not derail anything this time (neither previous).

I remind again. CDP Group for long time hire persons mentioned in OP post. It is outdated information. There was older announces on CDP websites.
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No idea why this seemingly surprised so many. The memo has been out for nearly two years now.

CD PROJEKT | Deep Dive: Approach to ESG [EN/PL]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU-db73BAFI
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idbeholdME: No idea why this seemingly surprised so many. The memo has been out for nearly two years now.

CD PROJEKT | Deep Dive: Approach to ESG [EN/PL]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU-db73BAFI
Even sunlight surprises the mole.
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Vainamoinen: Gamergate wasn't "hijacked by incels", it was literally started by an incel attacking his ex. The ethics in journalism angle came as a decoy for the harrassment almost two weeks later; its main proponents were a Breitbart journalist under direct supervision of Steve Bannon and a "pickup artist" who prided himself with being a rapist. gamergate was the spearhead of the extreme right and ultimately testing grounds for the weaponry arsenal of Trump's election campaign.
lol a failed movement was testing grounds for Trump's election.
Maybe this Medium article will shed some light for you but it seems you already made up your mind. Doesnt help that most immediate articles and wikipedia paint the movement as just harrassment of women and misogyny which it did devolve into but was based on an actual issue that even prominent gaming journalists in the past called out on such as SeanBaby.

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Vainamoinen: I've looked into the matter and traced the entire bullshit back to a single tweet by some random dude.

Now, it shouldn't suprise anyone that Chinese media outlets rage against Western values. Grand emperor Xi likes to lock all the 'different' people in work and re-education camps. It's a form of government I guess.

So some random dude has machine translated a random propaganda blurb, then he dishonestly re-arranged parts to maximise impact with his reactionary peeps (most importantly, the dude added the 7mn-SBI-connection himself, that was not what the original article claimed. Remember, SBI is a 16 people venture).

The original article does rage against consulting firms and their outrageous prices and names SBI as an example.
The halfway credible part of the original article is that the Black Myth developers, as a good example of Chinese system conformity, didn't hire one of those Western consulting firms.

Well, good for them, right, where's the problem?

No source for the 7 million, no source for anything, not a single official quote, no whistleblower hinted at. No explanation how simply offering services for 7mn would be "extortion". And that "extortion" might even be a purposeful mistranslation – especially seeing how delirious neo-gamergaters have to construct an unlikely extortion scenario for themselves ("hire us, or we'll travel back in time to get IGN to publish an article about how you're sexist last year"). This is a pure opinion piece without any kind of researched data.

As always, I weep for the gullible conspiracy theorists.
You talking about this tweet right?
https://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/1801457411305210241?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1801457411305210241%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

And the fact that the head of SB talks about needing to "terrify" the team to get DEI involved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv8ckDqlk3U&t=36s

But even if all of that is false, just looking at sales numbers and reviews of the games they worked on, its clear to me that even if DEI can add value to a game, Sweet Baby cannot.
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idbeholdME: No idea why this seemingly surprised so many. The memo has been out for nearly two years now.
Because people need to be outraged about something? So they latch onto whatever is the newest dug up talking point by some person you've never heard of and/or shouldn't give a toss about. It's more depressing than amusing at this point. Such a giant waste of time.

Should just keep this to 4chan/8chan with the rest of the internet trash.
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rtcvb32: From what i'd seen laid out, all the actual historical information they had in archived text was like a 4 sentence blurb. Yes he was black, he was there, and he was apparently a retainer (which may mean he had a sword? Guessing he acted as a bodyguard?), and he was most likely a show-piece at parties on par with being a clown or jester.

About that time Christian missionaries were sent to try and convert at that time, so i'm not sure if he was one or not; Though i'm sure the language barrier alone was enough of a problem. Anyways after his host died, Yaske was handed back and to the missionaries who left the continent and... that was it. More can be elaborated from the host's information but not much.

Though the Samari to my understanding is a very high position of prestige like say high rank nobles and royalty or in cases treated as gods, and would never have been given to a foreigner, nevermind he never had enough time to learn the language.
There is a fair bit because Yasuke's "host" as you call him was a very influential figure in Japanese history. There is not much information on Yasuke because he wasnt a major player like Nobunaga or his immediate successors.

Yes, he was black and a former slave that was brought along with a Christian missionary to convert Japan. They met Nobunaga who took an interest in Yasuke (given that there were few to no black people in Japan at the time).

There was some racism from ignorance but Nobunaga was fond of Yasuke because he was also incredibly strong, said to be as strong as three men so Nobunaga took him in.

Nobunaga was trying to conquer all of Japan at the time so Yasuke was working for him as a guard and retainer. Im guessing westerners think this makes Yasuke a samurai but it does not (its a noble title).

Yasuke did serve Nobunaga although not sure what battles he participated in but pleased him to the point that Nobunaga considered making Yasuke a lord with lands (which would make him a samurai). However, Nobunaga died by assassination before that happened.

Yasuke was spared by Mitsuhige who was the one to attack and kill Nobunaga but we dont know much of what happened to Yasuke after.

The status of "samurai" denotes nobility as a warrior class in the feudal system and entails things like owning land and serving the Emperor/King like a knight in European. Technically, this was during the Sengoku period where Japan was in a constant state of war and turmoil and where class structures broke down significantly so by that definition, Yasuke was a "samurai" just as was any foot soldier was at the time. However, the implications of that term then change signficantly.

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timppu: Yeah I've never really understand it why the protagonists sexuality has become such a centerpiece in many games now?

We don't know if Lara Croft was lesbian in the first game, do we? Could have been, you can imagine anything you want. At least i don't recall her having a boyfriend or husband in the game, but maybe I have just forgotten... There was some male character in the story but I don't recall if he had some clear romantic relationship with Lara?

Similarly we don't know the sexuality of Garrett in Thief or The Hacker in System Shock... and why should we? Why would it be important to "reveal" their sexuality, for some DEI brownie points?

Yes there are some cases where the sexuality of some characters were revealed as hetero, like Alyx in Half-life 2 + expansion packs. I similarly felt her whole crush to the protagonist in the game was totally unneeded, and added absolutely nothing positive to the game, even if I am a hetero cis male myself playing the game.
Yup because it wasnt necessary to the story. I think most people assumed "straight" because that was the norm but alot of video game protagonists to not express sexual interest.

You can argue Jump Man (for saving the princess from Donkey Kong) or Mario (for saving Peach) but you could also argue they are doing that for the greater good/because they are a hero.

Link is a kid in Zelda OoT/MM and we dont get any indication of his sexual preference (although he is a chick magnet).
Samus Aran could be lesbian/asexual for all we know given she wears an androgenous suit to the point that players were surprised by the reveal Samus was a woman.
Fang is 100% gay with Vanille given Fang was originally written as a guy but gender-swapped later.
Lightning really dont know. Doesnt show any interest and no love interest.

Unless the character is explicitly a family person based on backstory (like Doomguy or Joel), we dont know or even care about their sexuality. Does it matter that Joel was straight? No, it matters that he had a kid (could have been adopted) and that he lost her so doesnt want the same thing to happen to Ellie.

I suppose it has gotten more relevant since story has gained a larger role in video games and love stories for the protagonist or side characters are engaging stories to tell (Final Fantasy X, Mass Effect) and given players like to self-insert and the vast majority of the population is straight, characters are assumed to be straight. Doesnt change the fact that there is alot of fan theory and speculation of characters possibly being gay because alot of game stories also shy away from romantic interest and keep it strictly platonic to keep their lower rating (Kat from Gravity Rush and Raven, Snake and other characters in MGS series). Also why alot of games shy away from excessive violence and torture.
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: There is a fair bit because Yasuke's "host" as you call him
Not sure what term was right or appropriate, so figured host was sufficient. My fault on not looking up those details.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: was a very influential figure in Japanese history. There is not much information on Yasuke because he wasnt a major player like Nobunaga or his immediate successors. <snip>

There was some racism from ignorance but Nobunaga was fond of Yasuke because he was also incredibly strong, said to be as strong as three men so Nobunaga took him in.
He was also like 6ft tall (another qualm over the Shadows game since everyone could say 'it was the tall black guy' and know exactly who it was rather than someone who can blend in and disappear), so no surprise he was strong.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Nobunaga was trying to conquer all of Japan at the time so Yasuke was working for him as a guard and retainer. I'm guessing westerners think this makes Yasuke a samurai but it does not (its a noble title).

Yasuke did serve Nobunaga although not sure what battles he participated in but pleased him to the point that Nobunaga considered making Yasuke a lord with lands (which would make him a samurai). However, Nobunaga died by assassination before that happened.
Mhmm. I can only think he'd have been just a body guard with the language barrier, and not sent into battle. Maybe his impressive size and strength was exotic enough; though as you said Nobunaga did like him (and Christianity apparently).

Still even if he got the position of Samari, i doubt he'd have been slaughtering people indiscriminately like they show in the game. Actually i'd guess unless Nobunaga managed to take over, then Yasuke would have probably been assassinated shortly after as i bet few would have acknowledged him. But that's a guess.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Yasuke was spared by Mitsuhige who was the one to attack and kill Nobunaga but we don't know much of what happened to Yasuke after.
Probably would have seen as dishonorable to fight someone considerably less skilled than him, who was also a foreigner. I'd heard he was deported after Nobunaga died.
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hmcpretender: Jesus Christ, how old are you all? Let me explain it for children:
The guidelines concern hiring only.

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hmcpretender: their racist/sexist DEI ideology upon other companies.
The guidelines concern hiring only.

And that only in a very limited, bare bones fashion, on an executive level, sadly.

Sorry, I'm unable to keep up with the changing goalposts here. I mean, if you're against quotas, I don't agree, but that's totally okay, no need to pop a vein, no need to embarrass yourself by calling it "racist" or "sexist" (against caucasian males, I assume). But I really thought we were talking about video games this last dozen pages.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Doesnt help that most immediate articles and wikipedia paint the movement as just harrassment of women and misogyny which it did devolve into but was based on an actual issue that even prominent gaming journalists in the past called out on such as SeanBaby.
As I said, and nothing will change this historical fact, it started out as targeted harassment of women, it didn't "devolve into" it. It started with a 9000 word hate manifesto by a scorned lover that proponents of the movement didn't just take as gospel, no, they added a bunch of lies to it that the scorned lover never said nor implied, and they did that explicitly to add an ethics in journalism spin/justification to their targeted harrassment.

The hate manifesto alleged that a game developer slept with a bunch of men during a time when she was separated from the scorned lover. A bunch of people believed every word, then added the false spin that she supposedly slept with a gaming journalist to achieve or rather thank him for a grand total of five words of coverage for her free browser game that was 18 months old at the time. And with all those huge black lies, wholly private matters had become 'proof' of gaming journalism 'corruption'.

By the end of the month (August 2014), a prominent feminist media critic had received targeted death threats that doxed her parents' house. Several gaming journalists finally remarked how this shit was going way, way, waaaay too far. And of course these articles were then interpreted by proponents of the hate group as the ultimate insult and "proof of collusion".

Sounds completely bonkers? Oh yes it is, but fact nonetheless. And I can of course enumerate several hundred instances of similarly bonkers shit that's been going on 10 years ago.

Absolutely nothing can whitewash this gamergate motherfuckery.

You want receipts? Sure, the internet never forgets.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_zoe_quinn_scandal_highlights_how_gaming_journalism_is_corrupt_and_has_turned_to/

This harrassment thread with the exact invalid spin on the scorned lover's hate manifesto starts August 25th, 2014 on this forum; to my knowledge, the decoy name for the terrorist movement was first uttered on twitter two days later.

You don't want to repeat that fucking shit. Not because it fucks you in the ass eventually and acts as a literal catalyst for what you'd perceive as a "woke" movement. I mean, it does exactly that, but that's not my problem. You don't want to repeat this shit because it's wrong.

Again, click the link in that first post. All these people are doing is to direct hate fappers in the direction of a dirt poor and powerless person working in the game industry ("stochastic terrorism"). Why? Because they can. Because they've built their identities around a hateful political agenda. That's harrassment, it's horrible, it's evil, it's perverse, and in ten years' time when some people will say "well, they had a point", I swear a holy oath, I'll fuck them silly with the receipts.

Actually, the person they're harrassing makes a whole lot of excellent points in her tweets. Might be the time to listen to the victims of this harrassment.
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The "" teensy 16 person consulting firm " detected" list is, at this time, over 400k strong.

Unbelievable figures considering how people fear repercussions over something as inocuous as subscribing to a copy/pasted public list of a dozen or so videogames.

Let me repeat that,

people fear repercussions over something as inocuous as subscribing to a copy/pasted public list of a dozen or so videogames.

"You're awake, btw. You're not having a terrible, terrible dream. Also, you're not dead and you haven't gone to hell. This is your life now, this is us, it's real."
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Namur: The "" teensy 16 person consulting firm " detected" list is, at this time, over 400k strong.
400k of what? Ohhh, I get it. 400k followers. You're trying an appeal to the bandwagon.

This pathetic little Steam curator list has 23 entries, mostly indies.

You should be aware that those supposed $7 million are several the times the budget of most of these games.
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