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fronzelneekburm: This is absolutely idiotic! Added it to the list.
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Gydion: It gets better.
Gee, our "technology" must be quite complex then, rather astute of them to use our own design against us, our one weakness!
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Gydion: It gets better.
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Honestly, my own gogmix is starting to depress me...
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fronzelneekburm: This is absolutely idiotic! Added it to the list.
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Gydion: It gets better.
What the... how can the lack of upgrade packs be a result of a problem with GOG technology? Not that GOG doesn't have a lot of tech issues, but they have upgrade packs for other games, whether they're actual game content or just extras. So, you know, when lying they should at least make a bit of effort to make it at least a wee bit plausible...
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Cavalary: What the... how can the lack of upgrade packs be a result of a problem with GOG technology? Not that GOG doesn't have a lot of tech issues, but they have upgrade packs for other games, whether they're actual game content or just extras. So, you know, when lying they should at least make a bit of effort to make it at least a wee bit plausible...
Shame one you, really can't understand why you'd doubt them... bundling together a bunch of extras that are already DRM-free available in other editions, and then put a price tag on them, is extremely challenging technologically-wise.


On a serious note - given that GOG already has the extras, wonder if they even have to do the bundling themselves.
I'm seriously contemplating adding every single game that is affected by gog Connect to the list. Steamtards get freebies, gog loyalists get... what exactly?
Post edited June 02, 2016 by fronzelneekburm
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fronzelneekburm: I'm seriously contemplating adding every single game that is affected by gog Connect to the list. Steamtards get freebies, gog loyalists get... what exactly?
It's a business tactic. They're trying to haul in more users, which is obviously working. You can tell if you look at the number of new accounts that have sprung up on the forum.
I don't see why GOG should have a loyalty program seeing as features such as this, giving away free games, and being committed to staying a DRM-free service ARE our benefits.

Instead of trying to sucker you into spending more, they're giving you free features you can't get anywhere else, which I say is brilliant and what keeps them superior to most other services.
Post edited June 02, 2016 by zeogold
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fronzelneekburm: gog loyalists get... what exactly?
more games (new and old) and a better service, all in the future. Theoretically.
The main benefit I'm seeing for myself is that I can now redeem my Humble shovelware keys on gog as well. Hell, why even buy indie games here any more?

Oh yeah, and Steam has regional pricing for China, gog doesn't. I can get The Witness on Steam right now for a measly CNY112, the equivalent of USD17. Most games on Steam are about one half or a third of the gog price. Plus, I'd get both a Steam AND a gog copy. I'd have to be a complete sucker to keep buying games here. That's $0.00 for gog and $17.00 for Gaben.

In other words, in one swift move, gog has done its utmost to drive me into the arms of its main competitor. A weird business tactic, if you ask me. I'm perfectly aware that I'm the outlier here, so let's just wait and see if a horde of freeloaders will turn into an asset.
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fronzelneekburm: In other words, in one swift move, gog has done its utmost to drive me into the arms of its main competitor. A weird business tactic, if you ask me.
They may be sacrificing sales, but they're getting more publicity as a result, and also improving their status in the eyes of their users. Both are good business moves.
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fronzelneekburm: I'm seriously contemplating adding every single game that is affected by gog Connect to the list. Steamtards get freebies, gog loyalists get... what exactly?
I agree it's not "purely fair", and if you go to Steam instead, I can't necessarily fault you, especially since Steam has regional pricing for China.

However, I'm going to echo what zeogold is saying. This tactic can help GOG grow and get bigger market share/users. More users, more chances of bringing new and AAA titles here. It's a long-term strategy.
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fronzelneekburm: The main benefit I'm seeing for myself is that I can now redeem my Humble shovelware keys on gog as well. Hell, why even buy indie games here any more?

Oh yeah, and Steam has regional pricing for China, gog doesn't. I can get The Witness on Steam right now for a measly CNY112, the equivalent of USD17. Most games on Steam are about one half or a third of the gog price. Plus, I'd get both a Steam AND a gog copy. I'd have to be a complete sucker to keep buying games here. That's $0.00 for gog and $17.00 for Gaben.

In other words, in one swift move, gog has done its utmost to drive me into the arms of its main competitor. A weird business tactic, if you ask me. I'm perfectly aware that I'm the outlier here, so let's just wait and see if a horde of freeloaders will turn into an asset.
These are some of the reasons why I think this Connect program will never affect a significant fraction of GOG's catalogue. Because if it did, what's the point of buying any more games here when you can get them on Steam instead, and usually for cheaper (or WAY cheaper).
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fronzelneekburm: In other words, in one swift move, gog has done its utmost to drive me into the arms of its main competitor. A weird business tactic, if you ask me.
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zeogold: They may be sacrificing sales, but they're getting more publicity as a result, and also improving their status in the eyes of their users. Both are good business moves.
A nicer approach would have been to be all-inclusive. If they wanted, they could have given some small consolation prize for people who have been loyal to GOG and have not bought games on steam. For example, add the option to opt out from GOG Connect (i.e. never be able to use it) and in return get some store credit. They didn't.

They didn't improve their status in my eyes.
Post edited June 02, 2016 by mrkgnao
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mrkgnao: For example, add the option to opt out from GOG Connect (i.e. never be able to use it) and in return get some store credit. They didn't.
Perhaps you could elaborate, as that sounds like a bit of a ridiculous idea to me.
You get rewarded for....not using a feature? O_o
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mrkgnao: If they wanted, they could have given some small consolation prize for people who have been loyal to GOG and have not bought games on steam.
While I'll admit a loyalty program would be a nice feature, I don't see how GOG is at fault for not including one, seeing as there isn't any online game store (at least, to my knowledge) with such a program.
And on top of that, your suggestion for getting rewarded for not buying games on Steam sounds like overkill. That'd be outright declaring the company as direct competition in a sort of "stop buying over there and start buying over here" way, which I'm not sure is such a bright idea.
Post edited June 02, 2016 by zeogold
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mrkgnao: For example, add the option to opt out from GOG Connect (i.e. never be able to use it) and in return get some store credit. They didn't.
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zeogold: Perhaps you could elaborate, as that sounds like a bit of a ridiculous idea to me.
You get rewarded for....not using a feature? O_o
By previously buying games on GOG and not on Steam, some such user increased GOG's revenues. By not using GOG Connect (ever), such a user actually saves GOG money. It makes business sense to compensate him or her in order to "improve their status in the eyes of their users".

It's a well known principle. It's called "opt out benefit". For example, if your US employer gives you some medical insurance benefits and you decide to opt out and not get them, nice employers compensate with a small bonus, for you are saving them money.
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zeogold: Perhaps you could elaborate, as that sounds like a bit of a ridiculous idea to me.
You get rewarded for....not using a feature? O_o
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mrkgnao: By previously buying games on GOG and not on Steam, some such user increased GOG's revenues. By not using GOG Connect (ever), such a user actually saves GOG money. It makes business sense to compensate him or her in order to "improve their status in the eyes of their users".

It's a well known principle. It's called "opt out benefit". For example, if your US employer gives you some medical insurance benefits and you decide to opt out and not get them, nice employers compensate with a small bonus, for you are saving them money.
That's a little different. The "opt out benefit" is where it's just that: A benefit. You'd be getting money. With this system, it's more like a feature. That would be like me trying to get store credit because I choose to never use Galaxy.

It's pretty obvious just by the concept of it alone that the point isn't to directly increase revenue for GOG. It's for 2 reasons:
1. To do something nice for their customers (this is a feature which a lot of people enjoy, after all)
2. To play the long game and increase revenue at a later time by increasing the user base. People who now suddenly have games on GOG are likelier to use GOG, and, consequently, likelier to buy from them. It's quite apparent that new people are arriving just from looking at the amount of new users which have suddenly shown up on the forum.

You're not really saving GOG money by not using the service since, before today, this service wasn't available anyways.