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mike_cesara: I was sent away from the other thread, so I guess I leave Shadowrun Digital Deluxe Edition suggestion here.

Sadly both, fantastic soundtrack and rich in content .pdf (about 2oo pages!) aren't available at gog.
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VanishedOne: I mentioned that over , but I don't think it got listed on that thread. [url=https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_missing_soundtracks_resource_list/page1]https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_missing_soundtracks_resource_list/page1 does note the absent soundtrack.

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_games_missing_expansions_importantdefinitive_versions_and_informative_bonus_content/ is another potential thread for it.
bloody hell.. one more thread and I start drinking..
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fronzelneekburm: ...
Make sure you have your current games backed up (via that user-made script, gog.py or something like that), and if that's what happens you can tell GOG to kiss your ass. ;-)

Also they haven't recanted on bonus content; it's just that publishers are less inclined to let GOG include free stuff, instead opting to sell it separately just like on Steam.
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fronzelneekburm: They're not doing something nice for their customers, they're doing something nice for someone else's customers. There's bound to be some overlap, yeah, but ultimately it only benefits Steam users.

What kind of conclusions would gog draw from that? What if the number of users that is anti-DRM to the point of refusing to get a Steam account (even if it means freebies for them) is so marginal that they might feel inclined to reconsider their DRM-free stance?
First of all, on what basis are you thinking of adding the GOG Connect games to your mix? For me, I see them treating us as worthy citizens, or at the very least the GOG-Steam population. They gave us the opportunity to switch over to the GOG side of things, for one.

They really don't need to go out of their way to measure that overlap. It's all stated in the forums for one. Plus, GOG can't reconsider its DRM-free stance for a really good reason: that's a selling point for their market. If they were to kill it off.......they wouldn't have a worthy selling point besides being dedicated to old games that can run on modern operating systems. This would be a killing move to them, and at this point, why use GOG, just switch to Steam at that point.

They're not rewarding someone else's customers. They're rewarding theirs by allowing them to get a DRM-free copy free of charge for games previously bought. Like others said, it's a long term plan to get more people on board. Simple.

I am happy of this move myself, so to say. They're giving me the chance to get all those games away from Steam and DRM-free.
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fronzelneekburm: The main benefit I'm seeing for myself is that I can now redeem my Humble shovelware keys on gog as well. Hell, why even buy indie games here any more?
Sure, and why would anyone buy any games from the Steam store, as they can buy them cheaper from other stores like Humble Bundles etc. (and allegedly Valve doesn't get any penny from those Steam keys sold outside their store).

That can't work either, can it? No one buys games from the Steam store, right?

For GOG Connect, the thing of course is that not all (even indie) games are included in the offer, and there appears to be a time window for connecting a bunch of games. So currently there is like 20 games in the offer... out of about 1500 GOG games.

In your case, I don't even believe it matters to GOG as somehow based on your snarky comments you are definitely not one of those people who'd prioritize buying from GOG anyway, or rebuy games from GOG that they already bought elsewhere. So either way, you don't buy such games from GOG anyway, if you can have them cheaper on Humble Bundle or some other Steam key seller.

(Unless you are really claiming you would have bought The Witness from GOG, as long as GOG Connect didn't exist.)
Post edited June 04, 2016 by timppu
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zeogold: It's a business tactic. They're trying to haul in more users, which is obviously working. You can tell if you look at the number of new accounts that have sprung up on the forum.
I don't see why GOG should have a loyalty program seeing as features such as this, giving away free games, and being committed to staying a DRM-free service ARE our benefits.

Instead of trying to sucker you into spending more, they're giving you free features you can't get anywhere else, which I say is brilliant and what keeps them superior to most other services.
Also look at their sale patterns. Give away Trine for free (if you have on Steam) and sell Trine 2 and 3 at a discount, for instance. It was not an accident. This was a very calculated promo cycle centered around GOG Connect. I'm not bashing GOG for it, but it is a very shrewd or cunning tactic.
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PookaMustard: First of all, on what basis are you thinking of adding the GOG Connect games to your mix?
It's not that hard to see, is it? Steam buyers get free games, gog buyers don't. Steam buyers get the advantage.

Of course, this is mainly my own gripe and I'm just about the only person who is pissed about Connect. Maybe the maintaining this gogmix finally got to my head.

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timppu: based on your snarky comments you are definitely not one of those people who'd prioritize buying from GOG anyway
See attachment, feel free to draw your own conclusions.

I used to buy games here fairly indiscriminately if the price was good. Even the ones I already had on Humble or titles I wasn't particularly interested in, simply because I wanted to support gog, because I admired their principles. Though I have to admit that changed quite a bit when they introduced region locking...

As for The Witness, I have zero interest in that game, I just used that to illustrate my point about regional pricing.
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fronzelneekburm: Steam buyers get free games, gog buyers don't. Steam buyers get the advantage.
I still don't understand the arguments of either you or mrkgnao. Why should GOG have to offer some additional service on top of this one? They're trying to do a courtesy in order to make sure you don't have to rebuy games, and also to get more users on the website.
How do they owe us something just because they introduced a new feature?
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fronzelneekburm: It's not that hard to see, is it? Steam buyers get free games, gog buyers don't. Steam buyers get the advantage..
That is the risk that GOG have chosen to take with this new promo (i.e. Connect).

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It's obvious that many poeple are very happy about this, but there are some that aren't.

I've rebought some games after they've been released on GOG, because I wanted to support a DRM free release. This includes games with Steam versions that can run without the client. I'm not sure that I will do that anymore.

A huge problem with this kind of promo is, that many games on GOG are released without a Linux version, that is included on Steam.

I own Shadow Warrior 2013 on Steam and was thinking about buying it here, but I probably won't do that. It feels pointless.

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I'm against including Connect games in the GOGmix although I'm not happy about this development.
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timppu: (and allegedly Valve doesn't get any penny from those Steam keys sold outside their store).
Is this true? I thought otherwise.
It seems the forum has eaten my last post:

Painted_Doll pointed me towards this.
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timppu: (and allegedly Valve doesn't get any penny from those Steam keys sold outside their store).
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muntdefems: Is this true? I thought otherwise.
Seems to be the case with the Humble Store:

Q: What are the revenue splits?

A: Even though the Humble Store isn't pay-what-you-want we still are very adamant about supporting developers and charities. After deductions for payment processor fees (typically around 5%) the net revenue is split 3 ways: 75% to developers, 10% to charity and 15% to Humble Bundle to cover costs associated with hosting the content.

Source.

I presume other stores are following a model similar to GOG/Steam (30% Store, 70% Developers/Publishers).
Post edited June 04, 2016 by Grargar
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muntdefems: Is this true? I thought otherwise.
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Grargar: Seems to be the case with the Humble Store:

Q: What are the revenue splits?

A: Even though the Humble Store isn't pay-what-you-want we still are very adamant about supporting developers and charities. After deductions for payment processor fees (typically around 5%) the net revenue is split 3 ways: 75% to developers, 10% to charity and 15% to Humble Bundle to cover costs associated with hosting the content.

Source.

I presume other stores are following a model similar to GOG/Steam (30% Store, 70% Developers/Publishers).
I see. But this doesn't really mean Valve gets nothing at all. Do they just give lots of Steam keys to the devs for free?
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muntdefems: I see. But this doesn't really mean Valve gets nothing at all. Do they just give lots of Steam keys to the devs for free?
As far as I have heard, they do actually give the developers tools to generate Steam keys at will (though I'm not sure about the limit), to do as they please. If they charged for Steam keys, I highly doubt that a store like Humble Store would be rushing at the gates to offer both a DRM-Free download and a Steam key, when they could just offer the former one without giving back anything to Valve.
Post edited June 04, 2016 by Grargar
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Grargar: If they charged for Steam keys, I highly doubt that a store like Humble Store would be rushing at the gates to offer both a DRM-Free download and a Steam key, when they could just offer the former one without giving back anything to Valve.
Well, but what kind of hipster-commie would want to buy a game and not be able to activate it on Steam? I mean, having to manually download it and install it yourself? Get outta here! :P
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fronzelneekburm: Of course, this is mainly my own gripe and I'm just about the only person who is pissed about Connect.
Perhaps pissed, but many of us are not exactly happy. There are reasons not to be exactly happy, even if they're hard to understand for people who were already Steam users. If you missed such posts, it was probably because either people have accepted that the core customers (forumites) have no input on GOG policies, or because no one is eager for more bashing by the roaming Steam brigands going from thread to thread and contributing only insults, as is the wont of the average steambot.

Maybe the maintaining this gogmix finally got to my head.
Simon says: you can't say you're leaving or dropping the maintenance of this mix :)

But seriously, this is one of the most useful GOGMixes on the site. I humbly request you take some time to cool down and then consider any big decisions.