Come back when you can manage to hold your tongue for a grand total of five minutes. Trust me, it's going to be an improvement.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/drm

If I go to a brick and mortar store, purchase a game, come home, put game in computer and computer says "you need Steam to play this game", pretty sure that is the very definition of DRM.

Just because developers have the option of making their game DRM-free AND selling their DRM-free game on Steam, doesn't mean Valve / Steam gets credit for that. That was the developer's choice and how they made the game. Valve had nothing to do with that other than getting their obligatory cut to hire a bunch of website designers to make a store page for it.

same goes to you when you can act in a civil fashion without feeling to take this condescending/ uncalled tone.

Act like an asshole- be treated like an asshole. Or alternatively you can try and be the bigger person.

I'm not even sure where's the part where I treated you like a child who hit his head on the wall one too many times. I am certain you were the one who started to call me names for no reason other than reiterating the debunked lie that Satoru is not a Steam Moderator.

You talk about civil fashion, yet you harbor absolutely none of it. The door is right there. Kindly take your arguments, leave, and save face.

whatever you say , im not the only getting into yelling contests over pointless stuff.

I was talking about the part where you accused satoru of being a mod and whatsnot even though it was clarified he wasnt

Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing

Nobody's forcing you to stay, dammit.

I literally QUOTED the part with proof that he is a moderator!

Which you don't have, unfortunately.

Whatever helps you sleep at night ;)

Oh gee, this exactly happened when i had Skyrim... Had to install steam. Had to register the key. 99% of the data was on the disc. And it refuses to run if steam isn't activated in the background.


And This is why i get the cracked version(s) to avoid this shit. It's also why when i DO get on steam and download a game just to test if it's DRM (by deleting the steam.exe file), i give a big fat downvote and never touch the game again.

Too bad, some of them looked promising.

Yeah, in all honesty I had never even known what Steam was until about 6 or 7 years ago buying a game in an actual store and being required to install it to play the game. That's even after playing PC and console games for years lol

Totally caught me off guard and was super irritating at the time to know I needed their program to play a game purchased legit.

Even now, the games that are "DRM-free" on Steam you can't install them without first installing the client itself. That's not truly DRM-free because you still have to go through some third party software to get to the actual game you paid for. Whether you bought it on their store or not, that's the worst part.

Some people have a different definition of "DRM-free". Mine is that once the game has been purchased, it doesn't matter what company comes or goes, I still have access to it. They can say whatever they want, it probably won't happen any time soon, but if Steam goes belly up, does anybody actually buy the crap their shoveling that they are gonna patch 25,000 games? Give me a break! They won't even fix the simplest of things broken for years on the platform let alone give a crap about what people are gonna do after they are gone. Gabe will be on a beach in the Bahamas sipping Pina Coladas!

That's why I love and will always do my best to give my cash to GOG, it feels like you actually own it, whereas on Steam it feels more like you are just renting it.

That's strange because then the game downloaded from Steam (The ones that *are* DRM-free of course) fits your definition of DRM-Free. You may not *want* to use a client to download it, but that doesn't make it DRM. Then again, your definition doesn't even account for the download which means even on GOG after purchase you lose your game if you didn't download it first. What are these simplest things?

Steam is DRM.
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/drm

BTW now I know why so many steam moderators are useless.
becasue they are sitting here hehe

Maybe GOG could try offering older games no longer offered on Steam?

And again no

Steamworks has literally ONE function, CEG that operates as DRM

Something that literally 99% of developers dont use. Ergo 99% of games on Steam could easily be DRM free since again NO ONE uses CEG.

And again if Steam was "DRM" how is it magically possible that Larian makes literally all their games DRM free

Its sort of amusing people glomp on to one article, without looking at the context of what it is, and then ignore literally everything else too to keep insisting "Steam is DRM". WHen there is plenty of counter evidence.