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amok: check this, then come back to me

https://steam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games

All games here DO NOT NEED the client, and do not use 3'd party DRM.
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Sebatrox: ofc not all games need Steam. only 97%.
as long as it is more then 0%, it means that it is possible to get DRM free games via Steam, ergo steam itself is not DRM
Post edited February 16, 2019 by amok
I buy my games only at gog
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Yeah, just like others have said. I will buy my games just where I please.
Epic, Steam, Origin, UPlay, Humble, GoG.

And like others have said, kindly mind your own business and go away.

*Modded. Please refrain from using offensive language.
Post edited February 21, 2019 by Ashleee
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never mind, cant be bothered
Post edited February 17, 2019 by amok
Jeez. I mean I agree that a non-DRM version of a game trumps steam's "license" system any day, but the situation is far more complex than just DRM vs non-DRM. Pricing, availability, purchase options, exclusives, game version maintenance / features etc all play a role. For some, just being able to buy a game, play it through and move on never to play it again is enough for them, and I can understand that. For these gamers, the "evils" of using a client to dictate the game installation and usage isn't a huge concern (until it bites them on the ass of course).

In my book, encouragement of players to support GOG is fantastic! But don't demonize users here for using other storefronts as well. After all, some are buying games on sale on steam (cheaper) and if they love it, buy it on GOG to keep them. But by all means, keep slapping that bull on the ass by posting this can of worms here.
Post edited February 17, 2019 by Braggadar
I have no idea why the OP is low-rated. It's great advice and completely true.

Buying from Steam is enabling & encouraging DRM practices and guaranteeing that DRM will continue to ruin games, and force consumers to rent instead of own their games, in the future.

In contrast, if every gamer were to stop buying from Steam on the grounds that it is DRM, then the industry would most likely abolish DRM in most cases, which would be the best possible thing to happen for gamers.
Post edited February 17, 2019 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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Sebatrox: ofc not all games need Steam. only 97%.
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amok: as long as it is more then 0%, it means that it is possible to get DRM free games via Steam, ergo steam itself is not DRM
For me, GOG Galaxy is not DRM.
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amok: as long as it is more then 0%, it means that it is possible to get DRM free games via Steam, ergo steam itself is not DRM
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Sebatrox: For me, GOG Galaxy is not DRM.
To be fair, if Steam is DRM because a game needs it to run, then Galaxy would be DRM as well if even a single game needs it to run

How many games it's used for doesn't really matter in that definition.
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Sebatrox: For me, GOG Galaxy is not DRM.
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Pheace: To be fair, if Steam is DRM because a game needs it to run, then Galaxy would be DRM as well if even a single game needs it to run

How many games it's used for doesn't really matter in that definition.
Wouldn't that logically conclude that Direct X and Windows in of itself would be DRM due to dependencies?
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I have no idea why the OP is low-rated. It's great advice and completely true.

Buying from Steam is enabling & encouraging DRM practices and guaranteeing that DRM will continue to ruin games, and force consumers to rent instead of own their games, in the future.

In contrast, if every gamer were to stop buying from Steam on the grounds that it is DRM, then the industry would most likely abolish DRM in most cases, which would be the best possible thing to happen for gamers.
dito.
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yeah well if you wanna PC game u needl inux, or Windows, and direct X comes with windows, u can basically say anything that is a nessesity for gaming is a DRM in your eyes, SO my pc, the electric i use, graphics card, RAM, ofc im going over the top but u get my point, you can make everything seem like a DRM if u put it into its simplest form.
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lumengloriosum: Wouldn't that logically conclude that Direct X and Windows in of itself would be DRM due to dependencies?
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moobot83: yeah well if you wanna PC game u needl inux, or Windows, and direct X comes with windows, u can basically say anything that is a nessesity for gaming is a DRM in your eyes, SO my pc, the electric i use, graphics card, RAM, ofc im going over the top but u get my point, you can make everything seem like a DRM if u put it into its simplest form.
Do I really have to explain the difference?
Post edited February 17, 2019 by Pheace
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I have no idea why the OP is low-rated.
Because, as made evident by some posters here, many people on the internet have completely lost their ability to handle the mere existance of an opinion that doesn't agree with their own without losing their shit. Especially, I think, if said opinion calls into question their decision to acquiesce to something they know is wrong, but is also easier. A call to uphold some principle is always unpleasant to those who already abandoned it.