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AB2012: That was me that posted the link before. Here you go:-

"If you right click on a game in Steam, you'll see that you can back up the files yourself. Unless there was some situation I don't understand, we would presumably disable authentication before any event that would preclude the authentication servers from being available. We've tested disabling authentication and it works." - Originally Posted by Gabe

[url=http://web.archive.org/web/20100108013432/http://forums.steampowered.com:80/forums/showpost.php?p=10642189&postcount=28]http://web.archive.org/web/20100108013432/http://forums.steampowered.com:80/forums/showpost.php?p=10642189&postcount=28[/url]

Edit: You might just have to copy the relevant url out starting with the first http and ending with the first =28 as GOG forums seem to mess up redirecting URL's like web archive's.

Here's an easier to quote screen-shot of the same post if you need it:-
https://i.imgur.com/VEJwY38.jpg

As I previously commented when analyzing his quote, there never was any such promise or guarantee by Gabe or anyone else at Valve, just a whole lot of people putting words into his mouth then telling each other what they want to hear.
Thanks for the link! I was looking for it the whole time, wanted to use it recently but couldn't. I'll save your post somewhere I can access it easily.
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StingingVelvet: I respect people so against Steam/Origin/Uplay style DRM that they don't support it, but like you say... it doesn't really mean much. The vast majority support it, so it "won" the "vote." If Stadia works as well as the beta testers said it does then I'd guess that'll win out eventually too, and there's nothing we can do about it.
You respected people like me so much in the other topic that you called us "zealots". In any case, what we can do is show there is a viable niche market for DRM-free gaming. To ensure a market persists on, even though it is not in the mainstream.
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rjbuffchix: You respected people like me so much in the other topic that you called us "zealots". In any case, what we can do is show there is a viable niche market for DRM-free gaming. To ensure a market persists on, even though it is not in the mainstream.
That was about associating any client use as DRM even if it's not, but it's not like I'm surprised you'd conflate the two things.
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Lifthrasil: Apparently many, many people can't grasp the very simple concept: if you don't like it, don't buy it. Instead they buy and complain and buy and complain in an endless cycle that makes Steam, Epic & co. rich.
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StingingVelvet: I think people understand that, and the issue is more that they don't ACTUALLY care that much about what is seen online as a big problem. Either they're complaining online for fun but don't actually care much, or they're one of the vast, silent majority that don't complain online. Either way... if people ACTUALLY cared, and ACTUALLY were strongly against these things, they wouldn't buy them. Their purchase is a sign they don't really care that much.

I was actually very against Diablo 3's always online requirement, bigger online focus and auction house, so I didn't buy it. I'm kind of annoyed by Steam DRM but at the end of the day don't care THAT much, so I buy games there anyway.
Simple fact, many have no choice, when Steam got going every game i wanted was on Steam, bought a physical copy to have to register with Steam, so either one quits gaming for good, or accepts Steam for better or worse.

As soon as i discovered GoG as an alternative i jumped all over it.



I hate DRM, i hate DLC but one voice surrounded by a bunch of idiots and parents that buy their kids anything, my voice won't get heard.

If Steam goes down? theres always a way, i won't be repurchasing my Steam catalog, but i will be playing it, everyone can go fuck themselves if they think otherwise.
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DetouR6734: Simple fact, many have no choice, when Steam got going every game i wanted was on Steam, bought a physical copy to have to register with Steam, so either one quits gaming for good, or accepts Steam for better or worse.
Yep. I know some people switched to consoles to avoid DRM, but then you're tied to specific hardware which is just as bad IMO, and with all the patches and DLC games rely on now you're still very tied in to their online services anyway. More and more games are download only too, so then you're getting hit with both ends. Even more important I'm a PC gamer, I can't do controller input for first-person and 30fps games with massive blur filters on them. I'd rather just stop, but I decided not to stop, not yet. Always online would be where I stopped.

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DetouR6734: If Steam goes down? theres always a way, i won't be repurchasing my Steam catalog, but i will be playing it, everyone can go fuck themselves if they think otherwise.
Yeah, I agree. I've always said that the PC community is a beautiful thing and keeps games working when publishers don't care. I'm sure some small stuff would slip through the cracks, but in general I'm really not worried about playing my Steam games 20 years from now. Even if somehow Steam collapses, the community will make sure those games run if publishers don't. Honestly activation DRM like that is more about the principle of it than any actual restriction, in my opinion. It's always online games that require server access that are the risk.
Isn't this pretty obvious? Steam is already a DRM and I already experienced the moment I'm unable to go online they took my games hostage until I can go online again.

The worst part they can remove games we already paid if publishers demanding it. At least with GOG I can still keep it in my hard drive.