Posted March 20, 2019

toxicTom
Big Daddy
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From Germany

moobot83
moo :)
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Registered: May 2018
From Other
Posted March 22, 2019
low rated
well theres also google stadia which is a shit name for a gaming service and its the next level of DRM

shadow1980jpv
the casual gamer
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Registered: Oct 2014
From Finland
Posted March 22, 2019
You are forgetting Steam-Denuvo marriage. Denuvo is crap DRM. Denuvo protects game certain time until it becomes cracked. Denuvo doesn´t reduce PC piracy, on the contrary it increases it!
I think some players accept Denuvo silently, in order to play their favorite games!
I have to tolerate steam because of some games. But i never install Denuvo game!
I think some players accept Denuvo silently, in order to play their favorite games!
I have to tolerate steam because of some games. But i never install Denuvo game!

wolfsite
Canadian
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Registered: Sep 2010
From Canada
Posted March 22, 2019
I haven't touched Steam in over 5 years. Though it was actually the garbage customer service and treatment that was the final nail in the coffin for me (but the Steam client did have me on the edge).

amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
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From United Kingdom
Posted March 22, 2019
low rated
yeah... that's the whole point... it is supposed to hinder day one piracy, no one expects it to last much longer than the first days, the longer it lasts before it is cracked is a bonus after day 1. all DRM is built towards day 1 piracy, realistically. so you just endorsed Denuvo there...

toxicTom
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From Germany
Posted March 22, 2019
I always ask myself if that's in any way effective. Are there really people like "Oh no, the game isn't cracked day 1! Now I'll spend $50 because I can't wait a week!"?

amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
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From United Kingdom
Posted March 22, 2019



blotunga
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Pheace
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Posted March 22, 2019



ChaunceyK
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From United States
Posted March 22, 2019
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Ok, for starters? Don't give your thread a title that tells me what to do. I'm a big boy, I can make my own decisions, and quite frankly, it's none of anybody's business what I do.
Second, if Steam is my only option and I feel like the sale price can't be beat, I got ahead and buy it. GOG is (and will likely be) my only true love as far as digital download sites go. But if they can't secure the rights to sell a title I want badly enough, then I will grab it on Steam, and always at a sale price.
Lastly, DRM? Honestly doesn't bother me. I'm always connected to the internet. This isn't 1995 anymore where we're all on dial-up and terrified someone will call on our landline and end up booting us off from the local BBS while we're playing Legend of the Red Dragon, causing us to get killed for sleeping in the fields, forcing us to have to wait until midnight to pick up where we left off.
I mean, come on, tons of modern games are MMOs, right? You've gotta be online to play those, right? So who cares if there's DRM to prove you have the right to play the game? By ensuring there are as few pirates as possible playing their games, publishers are far less likely to say "we need to raise the price on our games because we can see all the sales we're losing." Sure, they may still raise the price because they're greedy bastards, but know what? Wait for a sale! Or if you feel that strongly about overpricing, don't buy anything from them ever again and write them to tell them why they've lost you as a customer. When they get enough of the same letter from a crap ton of people, that's when they're most likely to change their policies.
Second, if Steam is my only option and I feel like the sale price can't be beat, I got ahead and buy it. GOG is (and will likely be) my only true love as far as digital download sites go. But if they can't secure the rights to sell a title I want badly enough, then I will grab it on Steam, and always at a sale price.
Lastly, DRM? Honestly doesn't bother me. I'm always connected to the internet. This isn't 1995 anymore where we're all on dial-up and terrified someone will call on our landline and end up booting us off from the local BBS while we're playing Legend of the Red Dragon, causing us to get killed for sleeping in the fields, forcing us to have to wait until midnight to pick up where we left off.
I mean, come on, tons of modern games are MMOs, right? You've gotta be online to play those, right? So who cares if there's DRM to prove you have the right to play the game? By ensuring there are as few pirates as possible playing their games, publishers are far less likely to say "we need to raise the price on our games because we can see all the sales we're losing." Sure, they may still raise the price because they're greedy bastards, but know what? Wait for a sale! Or if you feel that strongly about overpricing, don't buy anything from them ever again and write them to tell them why they've lost you as a customer. When they get enough of the same letter from a crap ton of people, that's when they're most likely to change their policies.

flanner
be my friend
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Registered: Dec 2013
From Czech Republic
Posted March 23, 2019
i ignore steam from its very begininng. i dont need to have anything to do with that drm rentalware.
i would rather do without some games or wait for them longer... anyway, my main concern is for old games and despite i bought some new to support gog too, i wait mainly for releases of classics like twilight 2000
i would rather do without some games or wait for them longer... anyway, my main concern is for old games and despite i bought some new to support gog too, i wait mainly for releases of classics like twilight 2000

moobot83
moo :)
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Registered: May 2018
From Other
Posted March 26, 2019
yeah i dnt wanna pay triple A prices to rent a game from a service that treats its customers like trash no thanks

Nible1
New User
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Registered: Sep 2018
From United States
Posted March 26, 2019


I mean, come on, tons of modern games are MMOs, right? You've gotta be online to play those, right? So who cares if there's DRM to prove you have the right to play the game? By ensuring there are as few pirates as possible playing their games, publishers are far less likely to say "we need to raise the price on our games because we can see all the sales we're losing." Sure, they may still raise the price because they're greedy bastards, but know what? Wait for a sale! Or if you feel that strongly about overpricing, don't buy anything from them ever again and write them to tell them why they've lost you as a customer. When they get enough of the same letter from a crap ton of people, that's when they're most likely to change their policies.
I think this kind of short sightedness is the cause of most problems in all things (though I am not saying I am right to be worried about DRM and you are wrong for not caring about it. Maybe you are in the right and I am the short sighted one!). I dunno, it fees iffy to accept 'always-online' or just all DRM in general even as okay in a world that still isn't in the technological state that some of us more fortunate ones in the first world think we are.

moobot83
moo :)
Rep: -143
Registered: May 2018
From Other
Posted March 28, 2019
im starting to think that epic store is gonna be worse t han steam, not that steam is good in anyway

rjbuffchix
This place is made for ... shareholders?
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Registered: Jun 2017
From United States
Posted March 28, 2019
Google Stadia (and equivalent streaming) are what stands to be worse/as bad as Steam in terms of effects on the gaming market. Steam's virtual monopoly did its best to kill ownership of games, with online connections to the client as well as other DRM. Even retail "physical" PC games were just boxes with Steam keys to get more people on there perpetuating the cycle (reminds me of putting Galaxy into the installers, coughcough). The only thing that for the next decade could have a similar effect as Steam did in the last decade, would be streaming. Epic is another junk store with big pockets...I'd view them as more similar to something like EA Origin if anything.