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Sounds like a rant by an angry soccer mom, sorry. :P

How do you know it's gogs fault? There are way too many factors that play into this, giving us some info (game, specs etc.) would be appreciated instead of going ballistic. :)
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NuffCatnip: Sounds like a rant by an angry soccer mom, sorry. :P

How do you know it's gogs fault? There are way too many factors that play into this, giving us some info (game, specs etc.) would be appreciated instead of going ballistic. :)
lol well we all know that losing progress can be very irritating to say the least... right? not looking to defend the chap here since if you want to share something when your raging your bound to get some idiotic comments in return.
and that is how it should be... a little slap to the head to have someone realize reality again ;)
Post edited September 16, 2020 by Radiance1979
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eric5h5: Games can't crash a machine.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Games can certainly instigate crashes and cause BSOD shutdowns to happen that would not otherwise have occurred had the game not been running, such as by the game highly stressing the user's hardware and/or drivers in a way that they would not have been stressed had the games not been running.

Even if the game itself isn't necessarily the direct cause in and of itself, running the game can still often be the catalyst which triggers the direct cause.
I've had WWE 2K20 lock up my laptop to the point I had to shut it down; crash my game to desktop; and other madness. That game is a buggy mess, at times; it had issues.

No other games had done that on my W10 laptop (i7 7700HQ; 16 GB RAM 6GB GTX 1060; W10 x64). Not Metro Exodus, not even GR: Breakpoint. So, yeah - sometimes, a game can be the problem.

So, yeah - depends on the game, sometimes. W10's a lot more stable than say Win 98, Win XP, and even Win 7. I've had BSOD, freezes, and other things on older OS's - but not W10...until running WWE 2K20.
Post edited September 16, 2020 by MysterD
Reminds me of that time I sued McDonald's and demanded they stop selling hamburgers because I'm allergic to beef.
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eric5h5: Games can't crash a machine. They don't have system access to be able to do that, at least on any remotely modern operating system. Only a bug in the OS can actually crash an entire computer. At worst, games can only unexpectedly quit.
Also CPU bugs which there's patches to hotfix certain combination of instructions that could crash the entire system.

But true, modern computes use Protected mode, basically each program is sandboxed and can't access another section without permission and the OS will link things together to move data around. So a game/program Shouldn't crash the computer.

Though i've seen a couple where they have blue screen of deaths that have funny text before going to another section of the game...
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Craig234: I lost a number of unsaved files by having to power-off.
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PixelBoy: OK, so now we are getting somewhere.
If you have "a number of unsaved files" it also means that you have a number of programs running simultaneously. It's never a good idea to have all your other programs running when playing a game.
The programs in question here that lost files are simply copies of notepad, which don't interfere with games at all.



The two games that recently hung my system like this are Return to Krondor and Fallout 2, both 90's games.

I don't think it's a problem with the PC, which runs countless other games fine.
Post edited September 16, 2020 by Craig234
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PixelBoy: If you have "a number of unsaved files" it also means that you have a number of programs running simultaneously. It's never a good idea to have all your other programs running when playing a game.
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Craig234: The programs in question here that lost files are simply copies of notepad, which don't interfere with games at all.
Hmmm... Set your drives to do a diskcheck, reboot (Because windows will lock the main drive anyways), let it do it's job, then have a somewhat cleaner filesystem.

If certain files have enough issues the system could appear to hang while it's trying to figure out and do error correction. Letting it just get it over with may help.
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Post edited September 16, 2020 by rtcvb32
had several crashes btw these past month

i belief some have to do with programs running from my HDD and enabling Ram Chache III
I know others have something to do with me downloading games through a VPN, especially gog games seem to bring forward that crash ( and going with another activity btw, that part is crucial so i can't download and browse or download and game with the vpn enabled )

Gears IV suddenly decided it could not move forward in any way freezing at the point i made it into a new chapter possible needing me to replay the last part, not sure since my motivation for that game dropped below zero after that event. Savegames are not far and few between so there is that ( auto savegame locations are abundant, thats what i'm saying )

Most gog games work more then fine, if anything is wrong then most of the time it is because of very difficult to fix compatibility programs such as found with Septerra Core for example, or the hilarous clockspeed settings in fantasy general that you need to fix manually if you want to have the game running at normal speed instead of hyperspeed but that didn't call forth any crash what so ever.

the other game i can remember that seems to be wrong is frontier where you need to apply some 3dfx voodoo patch program
Post edited September 16, 2020 by Radiance1979
About dealing w/ saves:

GameSaveManager is pretty good, if you are worried about game-saves, game-save folders, game-save corruption issues could happen.

Also good if you need to want/need to save stuff; and are not sure of a game-folder's location.

Can be useful for games with-out many save-slots too; or save-slots they constantly overwrite themselves purposely. This way, you have back-ups, just in case.

They have a database and update it all the time w/ support for games; different versions w/ different save locations; etc etc.
Post edited September 16, 2020 by MysterD
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Craig234: I'm rather furious at gog. I ran a game in my library, and it completely hung my computer - a black screen, no ctrl-alt-delete, no alt-tab, no clt-f4, just a power shutdown. It's not the first game to do this.

I expect gog to provide some quality control. If I'm running Windows 10 64-bit, as I am, games should not do this.
Not that I don't see your point here... I think we've all been frustrated with similar situations at some point in our lives.

Were you around in the 90s, though? I developed an exacerbated sense of over-saving that still bugs me to this day, even in games with auto-save, because of the constant BSODing I had to put up with in Windows 95 and 98.

In all seriousness, you should probably look into what is wrong with your computer. Games tend to push hardware more than anything else, so it might just be a case of overheating, as others have mentioned, or just aging hardware that can't really take much more abuse.
Post edited September 16, 2020 by WinterSnowfall
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Craig234: The two games that recently hung my system like this are Return to Krondor and Fallout 2, both 90's games.

I don't think it's a problem with the PC, which runs countless other games fine.
Both are Windows 9x games, so I'd expect that certain hardware configurations might have some issues with them. That being said and especially considering one of them is Fallout 2, the problem is highly likely to be on your end. With the longerstanding members of GoG, Fallout 2 will have been played to death; were there a computer killing bug in it, other people would have raised this over the last 12 years.

If the games don't run at all, contact support - it's what they're there for.

Oh - and save your files more regularly. Running a game with unsaved work open is asking for trouble.
you are right, im trying to run pubg on my acer aspire one netbook with pentium M and windows 10 64 bits, and it crash my pc, how dare you devs...
Post edited September 17, 2020 by Sh1mbo
I don't know if you're new to PC gaming or what, but this kinda shit happens. If you keep a well maintained machine it should be rare, but weird stuff happens on PC. Make sure to check PC Gaming Wiki for common problems and fixes, and use your google-fu if necessary. Steam forum also tends to be very populated even for older games, with stickied tutorials.
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Craig234:
Do note that Return to Krondor is NOT listed as being compatible with Windows 10, so if you tried to run it on that, strange things may happen.
Another possibility is a conflict with security software. Several years ago I first thought my computer was hanging when starting some newly installed games before realizing that Comodo wasn't recognizing them as safe and trying to prompt me what to do after the game took over the display, so I couldn't see the prompt and the system wouldn't seem to respond until I answered it, which I couldn't. So you may want to check that as well, thoroughly.
There were also other games that appeared to cause freezes because again they held the display after crashing (Lords of Xulima a few times, for one, I think also Disciples 1), so my computer was responding, but I couldn't see it, needed to learn to force close the game from Task Manager blindly.
Do recall The Witcher 1 causing what sure seemed to be a full freeze once, but not entirely sure there wouldn't have been a way around that as well if I would have tried hard enough.
Post edited September 17, 2020 by Cavalary
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Craig234: The two games that recently hung my system like this are Return to Krondor and Fallout 2, both 90's games.
Is it related to GameUX maybe, hah?
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/games_explorer_gameuxdll_and_rundll32_issues_with_offline_gaming/post8