Can i join in?

I just made a account on it

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Welcome.

Please accept my request to join the group. Thank you :)

http://www.steamgifts.com/user/pokemaztre

Welcome.

I want to enter group:

my username is enigmaxg2 on Steam and Steamgifts

Go back to the first post and read the rules.

thanks, I need to wait a little.

So as not to clutter the actual Steamgfits thread, a post was made to post all group issues in this thread instead....

For reference, moving the discussion of the past day of a member caught doing something against Steamgifts rules and being suspended and why they should be kicked from this group.
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/steamgiftscom_gog_gift_club_v3_giveaways/post6596
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/steamgiftscom_gog_gift_club_v3_giveaways/post6615

lugum, you got caught doing something wrong AGAIN. Whether it be an exploit, a regift, a leech...whatever wrong behavior someone can conduct on the internet to fool people or take advantage of others generosity, you have done it.

Why the people here continue to give you 5, 10, 20, 50 chances, I can't figure out.

You got banned from the GOG forums for a year. Its not your fault. It was a misunderstanding.
You got suspended from Steamgifts. Its not your fault. The mods are power hungry and unfair.
You did something unscrupulous in the take one/give one thread. Its not your fault. You just didn't know the rules.
You try to leech/ninja/win any and every game you come across even if you have it on another platform. Its not your fault. You just want to collect games because you can. Cards that important, really?
I can't even remember half the other stuff you get accused of on these forums which are also not your fault.
I won't even get into the real life moral situation of wanting to break up a marriage and get involved with someone else's wife. Good lord man, how many things could someone just accidentally fall into and not be faulted for any of it?
There was a comment made the other day in some thread about Thespian gaining rep daily despite not being online at all. Something Thespian himself confirmed. Since we know how much rep means to you here, are you the one sneaking around giving him daily rep? Other leechers have also been gaining mysterious rep ever since you decided the ninja thread needed to be closed for good. Are you leechers all in league with one another despite always saying you care not about rep.

Oh, and if you have real life problems to deal with, are you the only person in the world with such a tragic situation? What a pathetic excuse to use for being in the wrong time and time again. You know, you could always go and deal with those tragic situations instead of continuing to spend every waking moment trying to collect yet another game.

You were told you'd be suspended from the GOG giftclub for one month. You really should have stayed quiet and accepted it. But no, you still had to argue, you still had to pester mods in pm's as much as possible because this was an unfair situation because you never do anything wrong willingly. Its always an unfair mistake.
How many times do we have to call bullshit on who you pretend to be and how noble you falsely claim your actions are?

At least you apologized...."I am very sorry about it and i would have said something here too but i thought the suspension would be removed soon anyway right about the time the current giveaway would close."

So in other words, "I would have said something here too but I was hoping no one would notice the suspension before it was removed and the current giveaway was closed." Is that why you kept pestering SG support staff about how unfair they were being to you and to remove the suspension asap?

GOG community, is it not obvious he is a bottom feeder? One excuse after another, time and time again every single time he is caught doing something wrong because it is never his fault. He is either the most misunderstood person in the world but damn the luck, he's always caught up in shenanigans somehow!

At this point, its clear he's never leaving GOG. He has it too good here and his enablers will continue to vouch for him and reward him and find it awesome when he constantly browses the forums and pilfers 20 games a week. When he constantly scans the internet for freebie opportunities for self gain thru what can only be considered exploits that will get you reprimanded at other moderated communities. No, he would never use any of those hundreds of other gaming communities online because he wouldn't last a week. He can AND has gotten away with just about every lowbrow activity being part of this community.

That behavior can't be stopped unless the community as a whole decides to stop the leechers here. We already have a known scammers thread, perhaps not a bad idea to have a known leechers thread as often as it comes up around here. If nothing else, it may give gifters pause before doling out presents. And who knows, it may improve the community by bringing back those who have stopped gifting here because of behavior of lugum and those following his example.

And as a first step and the point of this diatribe, let his month long suspension from the gift club last indefinitely.
He's already claimed his "unfair" treatment will force him to put any other games he gets by exploit up for public giveaway instead of this group. We don't want exploited giveaways in this group anyways so this threat of his should be completely harmless.
He collects the same games on GOG and Steam as long as he doesn't have it in one of those places. I've already caught him doing it 4 times at least. Once was this past weekend in the Bazookery giveaway. This obvious display of pure greed is definitely not the kind of person who should be in the group.

There is such overwhelming evidence of the kind of person he is. And for somebody who is new to Steam and Steamgiffts, he's certainly found all the loopholes and exploits in very short order.

So mods of the gift club, do the right thing here and ban him altogether. Take a vote if you want to make it democratic.
And its like lugum himself said here, "rules are sometimes changed" , etc ....so yah, even if the current rules of the club say one month ban for first offense, they can be changed to make it a ban for first offense depending on history of the individual. So at least on the idea that rules are meant to be changed, we agree.

I've been on this forums for little time and I don't feel I know anyone enought to judge or defend them. I was reading your post with attention since you started enumerating facts. (No references but since the forums search are horrible I suppose those are tedious to collect and could be provided)

Yet, you lost me when you included attacks to moral character that have nothing to do with the community or the activity in the forums. For me, your arguments would have had more weight if you had left those points out.

very disturbing information , i am certainly very unhappy with lugum there has always been complaints about him every now and then. I am going to watch this thread for a while for more info before deciding if there is a member in the group whos causing disturbance to the smooth functioning of the group and is not liked by most members. There is no room for that here.

Teshra feel free to post any proof you might have later.

There will be no bending of rules for any members , i have told this clearly to lugum , i suggest all membesr to keep up with the rules of the group updated here in the group page.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GOGGIFT

One thing i would like to make clear , i hope everyone knows why lugum was banned for a year from this forum. It was not a misunderstanding he clearly understands the reason.

I did consider leaving those out. Of course I knew your exact reasoning would be used as a reason to try to invalidate my arguments against who he is but I trust the majority of the folks who read this to look past that because...

1. They would realize its not so much as an attack of character as it is painting the whole picture of who he is.
2. The comment has to do with the community and the activity in the forums because he himself made a whole thread about it earlier. I completely agree it has nothing to do with gaming and leeching but it was already made a part of the forums and so I included it. Otherwise, I would have no knowledge of it.
3. You said you don't feel you know anyone enough to judge or defend them. So wouldn't you and those like you prefer as much information as possible? I'm just stating what I know about him via the GOG forums, via Steam and via Steamgifts, again to paint the whole picture.
Not everyone knows the lengths he goes to for free games nor do I expect them to. There is forum turnover, people not really keeping up or not being here to pay attention to all his shenanigans, of course there will be people who don't care which is fine, new members being naïve in their interactions with him, people having selective memory, etc.

So I took the route of more information is better than less. If people want to give him a pass because of the "personal" comment, or because its TLDR, or because they side with him for whatever reason...well, that's what he's counting on. Another free pass to keep on going as always.

Everything I said is in the forums and comes from the forums. Going back 3 years. He's had people criticizing him very frequently, the evidence is all here. But he keeps coming up with excuses whenever his behavior is brought up. Most people end up deciding he's not worth it and move on.
And honestly, I had done that too until this latest issue with Steamgifts. To me at this point, enough is enough with this guy.

Just to expand on this point. It was discovered Lugum already had Eschalon II on Steam when entering/winning the same title on GOG. I think there's enough history to show a pattern of behavior that goes against the very fiber of the BBBBoB giveaway. I never make such public posts, but thought an exception had to be made in this case.

What?! Did he redeem the GOG? I felt bad for Cyberevil (the donor) before, but this...

For the record, I too have seen him take games on Steam that I was absolutely sure he had on GOG/Desura already. Can't give you precise references, but I did make a mental note of it.

Also,
I believe teshra is referring to this incident: https://secure.gog.com/forum/general/takeonegiveone_giveaway_thread/post2006
He hasn't apologised, to the best of my knowledge.

I am extremely reluctantly posting my experience with lugum here.

1) Lugum was banned from the GOG forum for a year - during that year I befriended him and occasionally posted entries in GA's on his behalf because while he had access to PM's, he could not post on the forum. At one point, I asked why he'd been banned but he never really told me. (he's since publicly stated that he told anyone who asked - yeah...) Eventually I discovered the reason - he'd been found to have been uploading his GOG games to a torrent site. So there it is people - let's not dance around the bush here. Piracy - pure and simple.

2) Lugum didn't use Steam until a few months ago - I think someone explained how much money he could make with trading cards and suddenly Steam seemed like a very attractive idea. I'm supposing all of this but what caused me to stop speaking to him was when I posted a GA that asked people how well they knew me and lugum immediately went to my Facebook page in order to find the answer and win my GA. He then posted exactly how he had found the answer so quickly... Now I'm a pretty trusting soul but heck, this IS the internet, so advertising that you are one of the select few goglodytes to be on my FB friends list is the fastest way to no longer be on that list...and you're gonna make me pretty angry to boot. I refused to gift him and he apologized, accepted that he wasn't winning anything from me in that GA and I thought we'd moved on...until he joined Steam and began hounding me to give him his "gift" from that GA... Sorry but I wasn't going to bend to those tactics. Eventually after pages of "I've got the most miserable life ever", I got angry and told lugum he'd probably gotten more games from me than any other member here and that the answer was no. At that, lugum blocked me.

3) A well known forum member hosted a GA for games worth well over $100 in total value. Lugum participated but did not win anything. He had a complete meltdown with one winner and then he had another meltdown with the host of the GA. I don't know about anyone else but I was appalled - the rules were VERY clear but apparently lugum didn't feel that rules applied to him and he made two nice forum members feel absolutely horrible at a moment when they should have been enjoying themselves.

4) Lugum was an early adopter of the Take One/Give One thread. If you care to check, you'll probably see him chastising other people who've broken the rules, yet months after the establishment of this thread, lugum conveniently decided to "not know the rules" when they weren't convenient for him. He was called out by another member, posted pages of text where in he used the usual "my life is so miserable" argument and then gives a crappy game and decides that makes everything ok...

But see here's the deal - most people here don't spend every waking hour reading every thread, so most of lugum's bad behavior flies beneath the radar... To most of you, lugum is a pretty nice guy - and I'm not saying he isn't - but he does take advantage of every thing he can, He does show up to every single GA - usually in the first few posts. He does grab hugely expensive games with an alarming frequency during big sales. He comes off as a nice guy that is misunderstood...but see some of us have endeavored way, way too many hours trying to help lugum only to discover that lugum has zero motivation to change. He's got a good gig here at GOG. Why change when everything you do only wins you more free stuff... (not sure when he actually plays games except those on "coin-mining" sites that earn you more free games)... but be that as it may, lugum is far from lily-white.

So maybe we need to practice so tough-love so lugum has some real motivation to take responsibility for his behavior and actually change...cause so far this forum is only enabling him to continue behaving in a manner most of us think is pretty crappy.

I think i have heard enough ,I am shocked its clear that the group will not be at peace with lugum around.
Lugum i know you are going to read this later and dispute all these posts all over and attack these people as well but , You have been removed from the group permanently. This will not change.

I did not know that you were telling people that you were banned from here for a year due to misunderstanding? :O really ? Remember who was in that thread when that incident happened ? Remember the pm's asking not press matter further?

Anyways as noble group members we must not hinder him further he has a few personal issues as well. Lugum i hope you find another group , medium to host your giveaways from now. The fighting will never end without this removal happening no hard feelings. I know the rules are also hard for you to follow.

Just so it is clear your ban is not negotiable here nor anyone can influence it to change . For the well being of this group. You were banned forever for breaking rules no 9 and 11 in the group rules.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GOGGIFT

I think with this the group can again move forward peacefully and i want to thank the gifters and other members of the group for alerting us to various issues in the group.

If anyone has a issue in the group going further from now feel free to pm or post it here and not the other giveaways thread.