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General discussionSo do you all want no one to do business with China?(67 posts) (67 posts) 
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Posted December 17, 2020
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DoomSooth: Censorship is bad. Don't do business with people that support it. Problem solved. Yes, I'm saying censor the censors. :)
So no to Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc-etc. Because they deleted stuff they *didn't like* multiple times. Stuff that doesn't violate any laws and even their rules technically.
And no need to go with "private company" BS. There are rights granted by constitution. And if that constution has more weight than a toilet paper roll then every subject including private entities should abide it.

Julian Assange wants to have a word.
Posted December 17, 2020
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Swedrami: Which may be why GoG decided to back out of this (admittedly in the worst way possible).
They do have a backbone but it's simply not strong enough (like EAs) to be able to take and compensate for (and even survive) potential significant blowback, in whatever form.
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Aver: I wouldn't say so. They are drowning in cash. Recently they bought a lot of government bonds from US, CH and PL, because they don't know what to do with cash. They did it even though they pay dividend on regular basis, did stock buy backs this year and they released last game 5 years ago. They had strong positive cashflow even though they were producing their most expensive game to date.

Now, after success of Cyberpunk that paid for itself weeks BEFORE launch I imagine they have even more money. CD Projekt is not little guy anymore. It's huge corporation that before Cyberpunk fiasco was worth more than Ubisoft.
Alright, fair enough.
Still, I doubt they're nowhere near on par with EA when it comes to being able to just chuck money at a problem and make it go away.

If that were the case, the release of Devotion would still be happening tomorrow.
Post edited December 17, 2020 by Swedrami
Posted December 17, 2020
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Vitek: I don't think people dispute this but they certainly don't like it because it means throwing all principles aside for cash.
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BluesyMoo: And it's not even good cash. CCP can instantly close off the 1.4 billion people market to you if you dare hesitate about its whims. If you have invested anything in China, or have made any profit in RMB (Chinese yuan), you're not getting them out unless CCP lets you.
U.S. government does the same every single day. Even more than that - it's always "my way or no way", saying FU to international laws and regulations.
Posted December 17, 2020
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Aver: Oh, come on. Not trying to satisfy China at the every step of the way doesn't mean you can't do business there. EA made Battlefield 4, a game about democratic revolution in China. Yes, the game was banned in China, but EA still released game and still does business in China.
To be fair it was 7 years ago, not sure if they would do it again today.
Posted December 17, 2020

Whataboutism of the US when it comes to criticism of China.
"Whataboutism" is a nonsense Cold War era term coined to be thrown to prevent valid criticism. Like when someone blames others for what he himself is guilty of.
Like:

- "Hey neighbor, why the hell you kicked my dog?!!!"
- "Because your dog took a dump near my door."
- "YOU SAVAGE!!! THAT'S ANIMAL ABUSE!!!"
- "Your dog is fine, it was just one weak kick that didn't even hurt and at least i didn't break my own grandfather's nose because he turned TV volume too high"
- "THAT'S WHATABOUTISM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MY DOG, NOT MY GRANDFATHER!!!"
Posted December 17, 2020
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yiasemi: I live in Hong Kong. I know no one cares, but sometimes the illusion can help.
Oh, believe me, most people do, it's just as sickening seeing even WHO and UN turn 180 degrees in a short amount of time just to please and appease.

However, it's not easy. I think the world have let China+NK rave on for far too long, and they do at this point possess an powerful and excessive force, not only as an economical power but also a military power.

US and NATO knows perfectly well China is speedrunning to be the biggest military power in the world in a few years.
Post edited December 17, 2020 by sanscript
Posted December 17, 2020
I am closing this thread. Remember, threads created exclusively to talk about politics will be locked.
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