@joe why is rtcvb certainly scum? Was that your question?
I mean, he could have buried a L, though the chance of that was around 40%. And we won't know that until all the cards are played.
the question was "who is the fascist, joe or lifthrasil?"
The reason rtcvb is certainly scum is that lifthrasil preferred rtcvb chancellor over flubbucket, he pushed for the no-blotunga vote, which effectively secured rtcvb's presidency, and then rtcvb passed a fascist policy.
by the same logic ZFR is certainly scum, but for the sake of convenience I'm choosing to trust ZFR.
Either way if you know for sure Lift is Scum you shouldn't really be voting for him. We're then 1 Fascist Pres/Chancellor and 1 FFF draw away from losing and that's quite possible. Joe is SPF alive?
it's quite hard to tell sometimes, but I think yes, he is alive.
What do you mean one FFF draw from losing? Do you mean if we allow lifthrasil to pass a 4th F then an FFF would pass a 5th F and we would lose? Because 6 Fs need to be passed for fascists to win, and after the 5th F the veto power is available which does something to protect against FFF draws, as I understand it (but I haven't looked into the rule really)
Or do you mean something different, sorry?