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zeogold: Numbers 7, 8, and 9 are bolded. Just the numbers.

Where else was I supposed to put them? It scared visitors when I had them hanging in the shower.
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flubbucket:
Regarding Rule #9:

Does this mean while I'm President I must not post in the thread until the Chancellor has chosen a policy and the choice has been revealed??
Let's see...
9. If you’re part of the government and currently taking government actions, you may NOT talk in the thread. No giving a wink and a nod to the president/chancellor or tipping off the players about what you just drew or anything. You can do all that AFTER the policy’s been revealed/put in place, but only then. The rest of the players are still free to chat, squabble, and generally gripe and groan in the meantime, though.
Alright, i will this this means that once the votes are tallied and you are voted in, then yes you can't post anything until your policy is voted/vetoed/done, so stick to PM with until that is done.

So Until you are president or chancellor... post away :P Preferably with cute kitten or puppy pictures... or say how much you enjoy kicking said kittens/puppies (but no pictures as that may send my circuits into MDK mode)
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zeogold: Numbers 7, 8, and 9 are bolded. Just the numbers.

Where else was I supposed to put them? It scared visitors when I had them hanging in the shower.
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flubbucket:
Regarding Rule #9:

Does this mean while I'm President I must not post in the thread until the Chancellor has chosen a policy and the choice has been revealed??
Correct. After you've been confirmed as president, neither you nor your chancellor can post again until it's revealed what the selected policy is.
Could we stop over-analyzing the first round?
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blotunga: Could we stop over-analyzing the first round?
I love you already.
@Zeo who hasn't voted?

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supplementscene: So 6 Liberal policies and 11 fascist policies. Chances of 3 Fascist policies can be calculated as so:

(11/17)*(11/16)*(11/15) = 32.6%
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ZFR: Just saw this. The maths is wrong.

Probability is (11/17)*(10/16)*(9/15) = 24%
Ahhh right, okay I subtracted a liberal policy instead of a fascist policy, my mistake, the odds are even lower to get an FFF draw

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supplementscene: I do actually believe that as my 'read', if my post wasn't clear

You're in good form in this game Joe, probably means you're enjoying playing a scummy role ;) Where abouts in the UK are u and SPF? Notts over here

Yea but to my knowledge I thought any lying was fair play as Mafia and only realised that rule after the fact. Obviously I'd neglected to thoroughly read the rules. Plus if my teammate wasn't the first to turn on me in my first Mafia role Trent......
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trentonlf: I play the same as town or mafia so I would have been all over you either way. As I’ve already told you, I find your play style scummy and I don’t see anything to have changed my mind on that.
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So maybe try to play some Secret Hitler instead of trying to throw shade all over the place. If this was mafia I would vote you right now.
I won't stop analysing peoples actions and if you find that 'throwing shade' and untrustworthy so be it, then that's your read or just perhaps your 'agenda'.

If I wanted to extend my ZFR theory, it could be your he's your scumbuddy and you're throwing shade on me to protect him. But I'm not sure you'd make that play if you were his buddy. You could still be Scum and I could just be an easy target to tar at this stage because I'm very vocal.

But I find it more likely that if you're Scum, then both ZFR and Joe are probably Liberal as you'd want to distance yourself otherwise from someone criticising ZFR otherwise.
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Lifthrasil: Oh? Already preparing the ground for passing an F card yourself, when it is your turn?
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flubbucket: Yes.

I am Hitler.

Kill me now.
Would love to. But can't. Sorry.

But good to know that you are Hitler. Thanks for the info. *puts Flubb on the no-vote list*

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Lifthrasil: Oh? Already preparing the ground for passing an F card yourself, when it is your turn?
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supplementscene: Isn't Flub essentially saying the same as yourself? You both seem to be in favour of testing players.
No. There is a difference between giving an F card to your Chancellor to test him and enacting an F policy as a Chancellor. Flubb said something about 'playing an F card may be advantageous to Liberals'. Not 'passing an F card to a Chancellor'.

Yes, in some situations it may be useful to play an F policy as a Liberal. For example if you are very sure who Hitler is and want to enable the President to kill him. But most of the time Liberal Chancellors should enact Liberal policies. That's how we win usually. (Killing Hitler is rare). So, Flubb stressing that playing Fascist policies might be Liberal play so early in the game looks a bit off. But then again it's Flubb. He always seems off.

@Mod: Who are we waiting for, by the way?
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flubbucket: Yes.

I am Hitler.

Kill me now.
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Lifthrasil: Would love to. But can't. Sorry.

But good to know that you are Hitler. Thanks for the info. *puts Flubb on the no-vote list*

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supplementscene: Isn't Flub essentially saying the same as yourself? You both seem to be in favour of testing players.
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Lifthrasil: No. There is a difference between giving an F card to your Chancellor to test him and enacting an F policy as a Chancellor. Flubb said something about 'playing an F card may be advantageous to Liberals'. Not 'passing an F card to a Chancellor'.

Yes, in some situations it may be useful to play an F policy as a Liberal. For example if you are very sure who Hitler is and want to enable the President to kill him. But most of the time Liberal Chancellors should enact Liberal policies. That's how we win usually. (Killing Hitler is rare). So, Flubb stressing that playing Fascist policies might be Liberal play so early in the game looks a bit off. But then again it's Flubb. He always seems off.

@Mod: Who are we waiting for, by the way?
It looks like SirPrimalform is who we are waiting on. It shows who has voted where all our names are listed in the OP.
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supplementscene: @Zeo who hasn't voted?
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Lifthrasil: @Mod: Who are we waiting for, by the way?
If only this thread had an OP with a list of some sort...
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supplementscene: @Zeo who hasn't voted?

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ZFR: Just saw this. The maths is wrong.

Probability is (11/17)*(10/16)*(9/15) = 24%
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supplementscene: Ahhh right, okay I subtracted a liberal policy instead of a fascist policy, my mistake, the odds are even lower to get an FFF draw

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trentonlf: I play the same as town or mafia so I would have been all over you either way. As I’ve already told you, I find your play style scummy and I don’t see anything to have changed my mind on that.
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So maybe try to play some Secret Hitler instead of trying to throw shade all over the place. If this was mafia I would vote you right now.
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supplementscene: I won't stop analysing peoples actions and if you find that 'throwing shade' and untrustworthy so be it, then that's your read or just perhaps your 'agenda'.

If I wanted to extend my ZFR theory, it could be your he's your scumbuddy and you're throwing shade on me to protect him. But I'm not sure you'd make that play if you were his buddy. You could still be Scum and I could just be an easy target to tar at this stage because I'm very vocal.

But I find it more likely that if you're Scum, then both ZFR and Joe are probably Liberal as you'd want to distance yourself otherwise from someone criticising ZFR otherwise.
The simple fact is it’s round 1, there is zero information to go on, and you’re trying to accuse people based on absolutely nothing. Trying to make people look bad before anything has even happened is casting shade. Let the game develop and then we can analyze actions and behavior, but at this point it makes it look like you’re doing the LAMISL (look at me I’m so liberal).
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trentonlf: LAMISL (look at me I’m so liberal).
OHHHH. That's what that means!

Trent +1000 points
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trentonlf: ........
LAMISL (look at me I’m so liberal).
Now available without prescription.
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trentonlf: ........
LAMISL (look at me I’m so liberal).
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flubbucket: Now available without prescription.
LOL
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supplementscene: @Zeo who hasn't voted?

Ahhh right, okay I subtracted a liberal policy instead of a fascist policy, my mistake, the odds are even lower to get an FFF draw

I won't stop analysing peoples actions and if you find that 'throwing shade' and untrustworthy so be it, then that's your read or just perhaps your 'agenda'.

If I wanted to extend my ZFR theory, it could be your he's your scumbuddy and you're throwing shade on me to protect him. But I'm not sure you'd make that play if you were his buddy. You could still be Scum and I could just be an easy target to tar at this stage because I'm very vocal.

But I find it more likely that if you're Scum, then both ZFR and Joe are probably Liberal as you'd want to distance yourself otherwise from someone criticising ZFR otherwise.
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trentonlf: The simple fact is it’s round 1, there is zero information to go on, and you’re trying to accuse people based on absolutely nothing. Trying to make people look bad before anything has even happened is casting shade. Let the game develop and then we can analyze actions and behavior, but at this point it makes it look like you’re doing the LAMISL (look at me I’m so liberal).
I disagree, we should always analyse behaviour and ask questions because behaviour is information. In the last game I asked 'why did Bler and Trent leave my wagon early if they believe I'm the best wagon for hitting mafia'. It turned out both were Mafia players but no one ran with that query. How did Bler know I maybe killed during the night, which he said in the start of Day 2. No one asked that either. When the group don't ask questions they don't get answers.

This game I even went to the bother of getting the initial table line up to see if that would confirm or deny ZFRs intent. In fact it turns out ZFR didn't know his alignment when he made that request but it was worth investigating motivations in theory.

And you've actually contradicted yourself because you've Scum read me because of my analysis. Yet you haven't bothered to pick apart my analysis on it's merits. You've merely accused me of 'throwing shade', as if Scumhunting and providing analysis isn't pro town. This lack of analysis makes me question your intent.
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flubbucket: Yes.

I am Hitler.

Kill me now.
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Lifthrasil: Would love to. But can't. Sorry.

But good to know that you are Hitler. Thanks for the info. *puts Flubb on the no-vote list*

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supplementscene: Isn't Flub essentially saying the same as yourself? You both seem to be in favour of testing players.
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Lifthrasil: No. There is a difference between giving an F card to your Chancellor to test him and enacting an F policy as a Chancellor. Flubb said something about 'playing an F card may be advantageous to Liberals'. Not 'passing an F card to a Chancellor'.

Yes, in some situations it may be useful to play an F policy as a Liberal. For example if you are very sure who Hitler is and want to enable the President to kill him. But most of the time Liberal Chancellors should enact Liberal policies. That's how we win usually. (Killing Hitler is rare). So, Flubb stressing that playing Fascist policies might be Liberal play so early in the game looks a bit off. But then again it's Flubb. He always seems off.

@Mod: Who are we waiting for, by the way?
I took it as him saying play the F card as in test the Chancellor. But maybe he meant actually enact the F Card. @Flub can you clarify?

I don't actually find any merits to enacting fascist policy to town. Let's say your Chancellor, you pass an F policy as a Liberal. Do you trust Player As findings? It has a 44% chance of being a lie from your perspective as a Liberal. And actually it maybe a lesser chance than that because the President himself is likely to have discarded an L Card.

And what if down the line you get a chance to kill a player and accidently pick a liberal? In the last game I would of picked between RWarehall and ZFR, leaning towards RWarehall, that would remove a Liberal from the voting pool.

Even Fascist's don't necessarily benefit from passing Fascist policy. But I won't go into that for good reason.