Posted February 06, 2019
How do you threaten an avatar?
tiny E
Find me in STEAM OT
Registered: Dec 2012
From Other
Matewis
By Toutatis!
Registered: Jan 2011
From South Africa
Posted February 06, 2019
Someone needs to find/leak/release this 2001 version of DNF so that the fans can finish it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdllz6QbR88
fr33kSh0w2012
CyberFAGGOT 20 DOGSHITS!
Registered: Jul 2009
From Australia
rtcvb32
echo e.lolfiu_fefiipieue|tr valueof_pi [0-9]
Registered: Aug 2013
From United States
Posted February 06, 2019
Hey it's me duke, remember me?
Remember that time i peed in the bathroom?
Remember that time i picked up my poo in the bathroom and threw it around?
Remember that time i was shrunk down in that one game?
Remember how awesome i was with the ladies?
Remember that time i peed in the bathroom?
Remember that time i picked up my poo in the bathroom and threw it around?
Remember that time i was shrunk down in that one game?
Remember how awesome i was with the ladies?
sanscript
Choose τ over π
Registered: Jul 2011
From Norway
Posted February 06, 2019
Remember that time i picked up my poo in the bathroom and threw it around?
Fun fact: Monkeys (with tail) have smaller brains than Chimpanzees (no tail), yet chimps are the ones we often see flinging shit and getting drunk/pass-out by its own odour.
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tomimt
Optimum rat
Registered: May 2010
From Finland
Posted February 06, 2019
That said, I don't really believe they are going to make it. They already know the character of Duke is a bit too much for the current political climate and if they neuter him the people who would have watched it will have a meltdown whereas people who they neuter it for will complain in any way because they only know the reputation and care little what is done the alter it.
LootHunter
Political non-Euclidean
Registered: Dec 2013
From Russian Federation
Posted February 06, 2019
First, franchise is not dead. It's was just put on ice, but still no Duke Nukem games in the works today doesn't mean there will be no project later.
Second, it's better to Rest in Peace, than having your corpse dragged all over the place, like with C&C.
Third. People forget that after Duke Nukem 3D there were several Duke Nukem games (besides Duke Nukem Forever) and most of them were just mediocre. I don't know about everyone else, but I would prefer no Duke Nukem game to a crappy Duke Nukem game that will only tarnish his name (again).
Personally, I think that the best chance for Duke today is to be a guest star in some shooter or platformer. He actually appeared with other "build engine" games' heroes in Rad Rogers not a long time ago.
Second, it's better to Rest in Peace, than having your corpse dragged all over the place, like with C&C.
Third. People forget that after Duke Nukem 3D there were several Duke Nukem games (besides Duke Nukem Forever) and most of them were just mediocre. I don't know about everyone else, but I would prefer no Duke Nukem game to a crappy Duke Nukem game that will only tarnish his name (again).
Personally, I think that the best chance for Duke today is to be a guest star in some shooter or platformer. He actually appeared with other "build engine" games' heroes in Rad Rogers not a long time ago.
MartiusR
Eques Christi
Registered: Dec 2010
From Poland
Posted February 06, 2019
As far as I'm not a big fan of Duke attitude (I liked in DN3D just pure fun with guns and shooting aliens, "chicks" thing was a bit too simple-minded and cliche for me to be "entertaining"), I'm a bit surprised that people don't see difference between hedonist (that's the case for Duke Nukem) and mysogynist.
Last term is highly debatable though, mostly through ideological usage of it to depreciate opponents, but even if we'll consider this term as useful... There is still huge difference.
Getting back to topic - Duke Nukem surely has the potential as material for any kind of action game (not only FPS, in my opinion Duke was doing really well in first two entries and Manhattan Project as platform games). My guess is that (aside from common opinions about Gearbox studios :P) problem is some kind of "aura" after release of Duke Nukem Forever (not bad game, but not great either). On the other hand - Sega had some missed/bad games with Sonic, which is not stopping them from making next games with their mascot (with mixed results, but in last years, not counting Sonic Boom on WiiU, all of them were from mediocre to quite good).
My other guess is that Duke's franchise is not so strong anymore to make it a considerable selling point (not only due to the time/lack of games, but also due to the fact that we had in the meanwhile plenty of heroes who are sharing plenty of Duke's features).
Last term is highly debatable though, mostly through ideological usage of it to depreciate opponents, but even if we'll consider this term as useful... There is still huge difference.
Getting back to topic - Duke Nukem surely has the potential as material for any kind of action game (not only FPS, in my opinion Duke was doing really well in first two entries and Manhattan Project as platform games). My guess is that (aside from common opinions about Gearbox studios :P) problem is some kind of "aura" after release of Duke Nukem Forever (not bad game, but not great either). On the other hand - Sega had some missed/bad games with Sonic, which is not stopping them from making next games with their mascot (with mixed results, but in last years, not counting Sonic Boom on WiiU, all of them were from mediocre to quite good).
My other guess is that Duke's franchise is not so strong anymore to make it a considerable selling point (not only due to the time/lack of games, but also due to the fact that we had in the meanwhile plenty of heroes who are sharing plenty of Duke's features).
MadalinStroe
Veni, vidi, vici
Registered: Apr 2012
From Romania
Posted February 06, 2019
A courageous director, could make a Bubba Ho-Tep style movie about Duke Nukem, maybe even starring Jon St. John. But somebody would need to care. :(
Mafwek
Every man for himself and God against all!
Registered: Jun 2013
From Croatia
Posted February 06, 2019
Of course, then you have Tauto; proof that abortion doesn't necessarily mean the death of the fetus.
as far as I know, abortion needs to be preformed before certain deadline, after that you are talking about case by case scenarios which aren't covered by mass killing of babies, and not clearly defined.
Well, good to know. I should be keeping up with those information.
And I've been told that philosophers should not have opinions, don't know about philosophers and arseholes though!
Maxvorstadt
I is more stronger than Darth Vapour!
Registered: Apr 2014
From Germany
Posted February 06, 2019
You mean Sledge Hammer?
sanscript
Choose τ over π
Registered: Jul 2011
From Norway
Posted February 06, 2019
Art and literature is often supposed to break free of all ties with the current political/societal climate/paradigm and essentially give it the middle finger, or the very least; make the reader/viewer something to ponder about, at the same time entertain. F.ex. the Monty Python had a lot of sketches about Christianity and religion and showed us how faulty religion can be. Even Orwell made implicit fun of political/societal bias with Animal Farm (simplified). And it's also about timing it.
Today's entertainment, especially movies and games, more than often just doesn't provoke as much as it used to, rather it just conform. Also, the sad aspect of our current thinking is that "violence is good - sex and nakedness is bad", so it's really strange that some people lash-out to entertainment such as Duke Nukem for being racist-mysoginist-womenhater-etcetc blabla and not for the violence against those poor aliens. He absolutely loves and respects women!
Well, we can thank the ultra-christians in murica for that one. Seriously, we should thank him like they applauds those drones in the American army - like a hero for fighting terrorists... I mean, bad aliens.
I do concur - there IS a difference between being hedonistic and being a misogynist. What certain *flaky fascists really need is a Duke Nukem movie in pure 80's retrowave-style shoved in their face. The whole point of Duke Nukem is kick ass and indulge yourself :P
That said:
The Duke Nukem franschise is dead in its current state because of the whole fiasco situation - GearBox are now suing everyone attempts (including amateurs and small projects/mods).
From Scott Miller@3Drealms: "Gearbox was handpicked as the new home for Duke Nukem because of their continued passion, commitment and long-time heritage with the brand and 3D Realms". And ""This was a deal among friends, because Gearbox's President, Randy Pitchford had long been friendly in the industry with Scott Miller and George Broussard, the principals of 3D Realms.""
Right... so there was no struggle at all here, either finacially or the fact that 4 companies where drawn into this monster debacle? 3DRealms, Apogee, GearBox and Take-Two where basically suing each other. DNF holds the current Guinness World Record for longest time in development: 14 years and 44 days!?!
No, the biggest problem isn't the current "political climate", worst are devs/pubs' poorly handling of their IP's AND public affairs.
Today's entertainment, especially movies and games, more than often just doesn't provoke as much as it used to, rather it just conform. Also, the sad aspect of our current thinking is that "violence is good - sex and nakedness is bad", so it's really strange that some people lash-out to entertainment such as Duke Nukem for being racist-mysoginist-womenhater-etcetc blabla and not for the violence against those poor aliens. He absolutely loves and respects women!
Well, we can thank the ultra-christians in murica for that one. Seriously, we should thank him like they applauds those drones in the American army - like a hero for fighting terrorists... I mean, bad aliens.
I do concur - there IS a difference between being hedonistic and being a misogynist. What certain *flaky fascists really need is a Duke Nukem movie in pure 80's retrowave-style shoved in their face. The whole point of Duke Nukem is kick ass and indulge yourself :P
That said:
The Duke Nukem franschise is dead in its current state because of the whole fiasco situation - GearBox are now suing everyone attempts (including amateurs and small projects/mods).
From Scott Miller@3Drealms: "Gearbox was handpicked as the new home for Duke Nukem because of their continued passion, commitment and long-time heritage with the brand and 3D Realms". And ""This was a deal among friends, because Gearbox's President, Randy Pitchford had long been friendly in the industry with Scott Miller and George Broussard, the principals of 3D Realms.""
Right... so there was no struggle at all here, either finacially or the fact that 4 companies where drawn into this monster debacle? 3DRealms, Apogee, GearBox and Take-Two where basically suing each other. DNF holds the current Guinness World Record for longest time in development: 14 years and 44 days!?!
No, the biggest problem isn't the current "political climate", worst are devs/pubs' poorly handling of their IP's AND public affairs.
Post edited February 06, 2019 by sanscript
Mafwek
Every man for himself and God against all!
Registered: Jun 2013
From Croatia
Posted February 06, 2019
Today's entertainment, especially movies and games, more than often just doesn't provoke as much as it used to, rather it just conform. Also, the sad aspect of our current thinking is that "violence is good - sex and nakedness is bad", so it's really strange that some people lash-out to entertainment such as Duke Nukem for being racist-mysoginist-womenhater-etcetc blabla and not for the violence against those poor aliens. He absolutely loves and respects women!
Well, we can thank the ultra-christians in murica for that one. Seriously, we should thank him like they applauds those drones in the American army - like a hero for fighting terrorists... I mean, bad aliens.
I do concur - there IS a difference between being hedonistic and being a misogynist. What certain *flaky fascists really need is a Duke Nukem movie in pure 80's retrowave-style shoved in their face. The whole point of Duke Nukem is kick ass and indulge yourself :P
That said:
The Duke Nukem franschise is dead in its current state because of the whole fiasco situation - GearBox are now suing everyone attempts (including amateurs and small projects/mods).
From Scott Miller@3Drealms: "Gearbox was handpicked as the new home for Duke Nukem because of their continued passion, commitment and long-time heritage with the brand and 3D Realms". And ""This was a deal among friends, because Gearbox's President, Randy Pitchford had long been friendly in the industry with Scott Miller and George Broussard, the principals of 3D Realms.""
Right... so there was no struggle at all here, either finacially or the fact that 4 companies where drawn into this monster debacle? 3DRealms, Apogee, GearBox and Take-Two where basically suing each other. DNF holds the current Guinness World Record for longest time in development: 14 years and 44 days!?!
No, the biggest problem isn't the current "political climate", worst are devs/pubs' poorly handling of their IP's AND public affairs.
However, I am afraid that even if a new Duke game appears, it wouldn't be a good one, given the state of AAA industry, and I am not talking about current culture wars, but shit such as loot boxes.
moobot83
moo :)
Registered: May 2018
From Other
Posted February 06, 2019
duke cant belong in a new game with his funny lines he had in the 90's cos e veryone gets offended over the most minor shit in games mainly feminists and sjw type people, so duke wont ever exist again in his orginal form sadly.
tiny E
Find me in STEAM OT
Registered: Dec 2012
From Other
Posted February 06, 2019
and another one