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General discussionRe-release/remove HITMAN GOTY or any game that has any similar form of DRM from the store(36 posts)(36 posts)
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Posted September 25, 2021
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GOG has always been DRM-free store. Period. Many of us loved and supported that idea. Many of us still do. And so did you-until recently. What made you break your promises and give up on your customers so easily? It's not just about HITMAN but other games as well. One thing led to another and with latest situation you've gone too far. Is it so hard to ask of publishers to adjust their game to sell it on this store or even update it by yourself? I refuse to buy anything that has even slight hint of DRM in it. I didn't crumble under evil called epic game store nor will I for this. The only good and heartwarming thing is this community who like me only wanted one thing-COMPLETELY DRM-FREE GAMES. If you care about us and core principles this company once had you'll re-release or remove this game from store instantly and maybe even issue a SINCERE statement about it. It would help immensely. While we're at it, same should happen to any game that's sold here. Maybe then we can go on. But unfortunately- without forgetting...
Post edited September 25, 2021 by dragonslayerxxx
Posted September 25, 2021
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dragonslayerxxx: GOG has always been DRM-free store. Period. Many of us loved and supported that idea. Many of us still do. And so did you-until recently. What made you break your promises and give up on your customers so easily? It's not just about HITMAN but other games as well. No Man's Sky has been sitting there for awhile with no one doing anything about it. One thing led to another and with latest situation you've gone too far. Is it so hard to ask of publishers to adjust their game to sell it on this store or even update it by yourself? I refuse to buy anything that has even slight hint of DRM in it. I didn't crumble under evil called epic game store nor will I for this. The only good and heartwarming thing is this community who like me only wanted one thing-COMPLETELY DRM-FREE GAMES. If you care about us and core principles this company once had you'll re-release or remove this game from store instantly and maybe even issue a SINCERE statement about it. It would help immensely. While we're at it, same should happen to any game that's sold here. Maybe then we can go on. But unfortunately- without forgetting...
I didn't think NMs has anything remotely similar as if its just multiplayer thats online only drm and nothing lacking single player side and is free of drm on that part like it has all the content that multiplayer has outside like say daily challenges I think its okay but scenario's like Hitman 2013 GOTY its not okay
Post edited September 25, 2021 by BanditKeith2
Posted September 25, 2021
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dragonslayerxxx: Is it so hard to ask of publishers to adjust their game to sell it on this store or even update it by yourself? I refuse to buy anything that has even slight hint of DRM in it.
I agree that Hitman should be removed if it can't be DRM-free'd, but how much leverage do you think GOG, which has like an incredibly small marketshare if we go by the billions gaming makes each year, has? I think asking a dev to remove a game from GOG (which you're certainly welcome to do) has a better chance of happening, than asking them to (depending on the complexity) spend time and money "adjust"ing some technical features specifically for the GOG version, which will sell far less than the Steam version.

I assume you're only concerned about DRM-free for single-player, since plenty of games require Galaxy for multiplayer, achievements, etc.
Posted September 25, 2021
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dragonslayerxxx: Is it so hard to ask of publishers to adjust their game to sell it on this store or even update it by yourself? I refuse to buy anything that has even slight hint of DRM in it.
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tfishell: I agree that Hitman should be removed if it can't be DRM-free'd, but how much leverage do you think GOG, which has like an incredibly small marketshare if we go by the billions gaming makes each year, has? I think asking a dev to remove a game from GOG (which you're certainly welcome to do) has a better chance of happening, than asking them to (depending on the complexity) spend time and money "adjust"ing some technical features specifically for the GOG version, which will sell far less than the Steam version.

I assume you're only concerned about DRM-free for single-player, since plenty of games require Galaxy for multiplayer, achievements, etc.
I mean, technically speaking GOG version will always sell less than other big platforms but there's no reason not to do it if it brings a game and thus customers to the table (depending on complexity like you said). Such things should be prerequisite for developers when they publish a game on GOG.
Yes, I'm talking about SP only games.
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dragonslayerxxx: GOG has always been DRM-free store. Period. Many of us loved and supported that idea. Many of us still do. And so did you-until recently. What made you break your promises and give up on your customers so easily? It's not just about HITMAN but other games as well. No Man's Sky has been sitting there for awhile with no one doing anything about it. One thing led to another and with latest situation you've gone too far. Is it so hard to ask of publishers to adjust their game to sell it on this store or even update it by yourself? I refuse to buy anything that has even slight hint of DRM in it. I didn't crumble under evil called epic game store nor will I for this. The only good and heartwarming thing is this community who like me only wanted one thing-COMPLETELY DRM-FREE GAMES. If you care about us and core principles this company once had you'll re-release or remove this game from store instantly and maybe even issue a SINCERE statement about it. It would help immensely. While we're at it, same should happen to any game that's sold here. Maybe then we can go on. But unfortunately- without forgetting...
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BanditKeith2: I didn't think NMs has anything remotely similar as if its just multiplayer thats online only drm and nothing lacking single player side and is free of drm on that part like it has all the content that multiplayer has outside like say daily challenges I think its okay but scenario's like Hitman 2013 GOTY its not okay
My bad. Fixed the misinformation. Last time I checked it was the case. Didn't reaiize in the meantime devs rolled patch 3.13 that removed it. That's good news at least.
Post edited September 25, 2021 by dragonslayerxxx
Posted September 25, 2021
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tfishell: I agree that Hitman should be removed if it can't be DRM-free'd, but how much leverage do you think GOG, which has like an incredibly small marketshare if we go by the billions gaming makes each year, has? I think asking a dev to remove a game from GOG (which you're certainly welcome to do) has a better chance of happening, than asking them to (depending on the complexity) spend time and money "adjust"ing some technical features specifically for the GOG version, which will sell far less than the Steam version.

I assume you're only concerned about DRM-free for single-player, since plenty of games require Galaxy for multiplayer, achievements, etc.
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dragonslayerxxx: I mean, technically speaking GOG version will always sell less than other big platforms but there's no reason not to do it if it brings a game and thus customers to the table (depending on complexity like you said). Such things should be prerequisite for developers when they publish a game on GOG.
Yes, I'm talking about SP only games.
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BanditKeith2: I didn't think NMs has anything remotely similar as if its just multiplayer thats online only drm and nothing lacking single player side and is free of drm on that part like it has all the content that multiplayer has outside like say daily challenges I think its okay but scenario's like Hitman 2013 GOTY its not okay
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dragonslayerxxx: My bad. Fixed the misinformation. Last time I checked it was the case. Didn't reaiize in the meantime devs rolled patch 3.13. That's good news at least.
Keep in mind I don't play multiplayer so I may be wrong but as far as I know from looking around NMS has no missions features that isn't multiplayer based on the single player side of things .. So um ya we both might be wrong or right though my piont was anyway NMS if it just is drmed Multiplayer side it makes sense because you know multiplayer is online based .. Where as Hitman 2013 GOTY is single player with a always online drm level of madness I can't accept here or elsewhere as its insane how much its lacking for a game like Hitman 2013 if played without the server part of it from online connection
Posted September 25, 2021
I could be wrong but as far as I am aware, Hitman GOTY is the 1st on such a large scale in offline and hopefully will be the last.

According to this topic, some parts in "Absolver," "Carcasonne - Tiles and Tactics," "Cyberpunk 2077," "Dying Light," "Synthetik - Legion Rising" and "Hybrid Wars" are somewhat missing some elements offline and without Galaxy. The latter game was removed, there is a few others if to count cosmetics.

In my mind, the closest to the latest disaster would be "GWENT" except it is explicitly online PvP and free and it is a game by GOG itself, folks just kind of allowed it be. So then, will "Cyberpunk 2077" and "GWENT" be removed? I have no idea, like, probably no, I don't see people rioting en masse on. What I do know myself is nothing must pass on the scale of "Hitman GOTY," and if the non-network version of the offline part behaves like a demo version, it shouldn't be allowed: This one crossed the line in my opinion. It shall be removed, then fixed by the publisher/devs, then brought back if fixed.
Post edited September 25, 2021 by liara42
Posted September 25, 2021
+1. This requires to be resolved! Not a vague post with zero practical actions towards the solution.
Posted September 25, 2021
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It sure is interesting, there are clearly many gamers highly upset by this release and want to see it removed until it is fixed. Now, given GOG's recent history and how a certain game was recently removed from the store (before the release went live even) due to the complaints of 'many gamers' you'd think they'd get right on that and remove it wouldn't you?

But apparently GOG needs to spend the next few weeks 'looking into it'.

Really makes you think...

...That GOG are blatant, shameless hypocrits.
Post edited September 25, 2021 by ReynardFox
Posted September 26, 2021
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ReynardFox: It sure is interesting, there are clearly many gamers highly upset by this release and want to see it removed until it is fixed. Now, given GOG's recent history and how a certain game was recently removed from the store (before the release went live even) due to the complaints of 'many gamers' you'd think they'd get right on that and remove it wouldn't you?

But apparently GOG needs to spend the next few weeks 'looking into it'.

Really makes you think...

...That GOG are blatant, shameless hypocrits.
Indeed, it makes one wonder what's going on behind the curtains. I don't know who's responsible for this situation but it's no secret they've changed over last year or two. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, yet I don't see it going better until the new management (so I've read on this forum) is replaced by more competent people. Their first red minus was all that Cyberpunk fiasco which culminated with them straight up lying to our faces in that ''apology'' video. They've chosen to take EA's corporate, money driven approach and lost their customer trust in a blink of a eye. And now here we are with their latest bright idea. It takes special kind of stupid to do this.
Posted September 28, 2021
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Agreed, if they start making compromises on DRMs, then they're no different than any other store out there.
Posted September 28, 2021
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dragonslayerxxx: It takes special kind of stupid to do this.
Either that or a complete lack of backbone and/or cajones.

Starting a DRM free store took courage and vision. If the people that run the show now don't have the same courage and vision that the site was founded upon, they should step down and be replaced by someone who does.
Posted September 28, 2021
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liara42: So then, will "Cyberpunk 2077" and "GWENT" be removed?
We couldn't be so lucky, lol. As I have said in other topics, it would make more sense for games that have online requirements, client requirements etc that gate content to be on a different platform or website. In Cyberpunk's case though, I feel it could easily be fixed to just have offline installers for the cosmetic "My Rewards" content. I'm not some technical wizard...but other games have such content available this way just fine.
Posted September 28, 2021
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As I posted in the Community wishlist item of "Remove Hitman GOTY" :

I'm already convinced that Gog is immune to anything that defies management's thickheadedness...

Gog if you ever read this I'm gonna say it once more: your customer base LOVES DRM-free . You can't have both DRM'd games and this customer base. Choose one, and do it fast, or each customer will make that choice for you.

Also, the longer you take the more your brand gets damaged.
Posted September 28, 2021
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liara42: So then, will "Cyberpunk 2077" and "GWENT" be removed?
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rjbuffchix: We couldn't be so lucky, lol. As I have said in other topics, it would make more sense for games that have online requirements, client requirements etc that gate content to be on a different platform or website. In Cyberpunk's case though, I feel it could easily be fixed to just have offline installers for the cosmetic "My Rewards" content. I'm not some technical wizard...but other games have such content available this way just fine.
The My Rewards content for Cyberpunk are clearly stated as Galaxy rewards. It is technically possible probably add hem in offline installerd but then the "Galaxy rewards" would not have sense.
Post edited September 28, 2021 by Gudadantza
Posted September 28, 2021
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Gudadantza: The My Rewards content for Cyberpunk are clearly stated as Galaxy rewards. It is technically possible probably add hem in offline installerd but then the "Galaxy rewards" would not have sense.
Attempting semantics like that doesn't mean that they're not DRMed content and shouldn't be fixed/removed.

They could still be done "DRM-free once purchased" if they were able to be added to cart and "purchased for free" via Galaxy, and then they'd become like any other DLC post-acquisition with an offline installer.
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General discussionRe-release/remove HITMAN GOTY or any game that has any similar form of DRM from the store(36 posts)(36 posts)
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