https://www.gog.com/forum/general/request_for_companies_like_thq_nordic_to_add_to_their_games_the_same_options_as_steam_achievements/post32

And I quote: In general level yes, but as I said in my first message to this thread, to me the wishlist item is at least implying that such games, that lack achievements while the Steam version has them, are not welcome to the store, and with that implication I strongly disagree. I want the games to the store, even if they are missing achievements.

Hence, I am personally treating that wishlist item as one that "sign it only if you care about Galaxy achievements". I don't.

As for e.g. lack of updates on GOG version, that kind of wishlist item I could sign and probably have signed such already, but even that is not black and white to me. For instance, I am generally fine with updates appearing later to the GOG version, and maybe sometimes skipping some of the updates (if they are going to integrate some later update to the GOG version anyway). And if an update is very Steam-centric or otherwise non-critical, then I might be fine even if the GOG version is lacking it.

Also there I rely more on the power of my wallet. If I see some publisher abandoning the GOG version just because they don't care, then I probably won't be buying any more games from such publishers, not even on Steam (unless it would be a really must have game for me, but I very seldom see such games nowadays that I can't live without; there are just so many choices nowadays). And if I'd see GOG versions routinely missing critical updates (ever) and GOG apparently not giving a shit about it, then I would probably start buying less and less from GOG in general.

By the power of my mighty wallet...

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But I get your point. ;)

I had lost that passage which is actually a bit drastic, but I think a big reality like THQ Nordic can afford to lose one more day to add achievements, rather than not sell games on GOG.

Anyway I think I explained myself, especially the big developers could pay more attention to the secondary aspects of their games to give a complete product and on par with the Steam counterpart, and I think we would all benefit from it.

Fortunately I think that the situation is constantly improving with more and more big developers looking at GOG, as Kingdome Come and other recent games testifies. Let's just hope that even the platform can keep up and get bigger, so we'll see less and less bugs. XD

It's pointless to worry about things like "fewer users than Steam". GOG was built as a niche service. It has already expanded much beyond its original premise, possibly too much, as there are many things where GOG has simply failed (see movie section).

What GOG should try to offer is better service, and simply by having DRM-free products, GOG wins every time over Steam. We can also argue whether some other things, such as worldwide flat pricing that used to exist in the past, are necessary or not. GOG got rid of it in favour of expanding, the response from the core customers was not a positive one.

As far as not having more games in the catalogue, we can blame GOG for that. There are many games which GOG has rejected, while developers themselves have been very supporting towards the idea of having their games on GOG.

Personally I can't think of any additional value that some new users who keep complaining about GOG achievements (or lack of) can provide. Whereas if GOG decided to accept games like "Tokyo Dark", I would be a little bit happier GOG customer.

The thing is they don't WANT to afford it and they don't NEED to be on GOG from their pespective.

Of course they could and of couse we would but in most cases they simply don't want because they don't see the need to do so.

Kingdon Come is a kickstarter project not a big developer at all. Also those great developers even were unable to offer some GOG keys to theit backers so many tried to exchange their steam keys here on GOG. Nothing I would praise them for (being a backer of a different game myself).

It is true that many developers neglect secondary aspects of games such as achievements, cloud save or support in the gog forums but more worrying than that there are many developers who want to add their gog games, who want to support their games in gog , that listen to the requests of the users but gog rejects them.

For example, FULL ACE TENNIS SIMULATOR, your developer is trying to make your game add to gog, it is also a good game that will gradually grow but GOG rejects it again and again when it is a developer that has shown passion for its game is added to gog.

Like that there are many examples.

As for developers who do not want to add achievements, cloud save or support gog users will never see my money or that of many users (as they have already commented on this post and several other users).

But what you should do gog is pay attention to many developers who do want to add their games to gog and offer support to users. The developer who does not want to offer support to gog users is not necessary on this platform.

Two completely different things. The main thing for GOG is to sell games and they try to add games here which they THINK will fit GOG AND bring in money, meaning lots of buyers. They probably aren't always correct when they reject a game but I am glad that they don't accept every game like Steam does. I would also disagree to say that this would be worse than an unsupported game that already is on GOG because for SUCH a game I already paid money while I did not pay any money for a game that does not even arrive here.

The game you mentioned btw does not even seem to have a wishlist entry (or I am too blind to find it).
If you look at the wishlist entrys for "tennis" alone you will find very few votes at all. So why should GOG think it would be a good thing to add this game?

So a great game without achievements or cloud saves that works fine AS IS (no developer support needed) will not see your money.
Well... different people have different priorities I guess, even if I find them a bit odd (understatement!).

But maybe it's about the drama - In that case, please continue - and count me out.